A moron thus spaeketh

[mrjurrs]

And you just proved my point about how the left views their pet spending programs - in this case shadily depicted as the "debt obligations of the country."

You admit tax cuts represent revenue lost, but you refuse to acknowledge the impact tax cuts have on those who must pay them as a reduction in their expenses - thereby being totally transparent in how you feel about taxpayer's liabilities to the government.

Moreover, you assume - incorrectly - that spending must never change (except perhaps to ever increase - and that, naturally at the expense of those who must provide said revenues for government to spend) - ergo the country's expenses "remain the same." And then you take a solicitous pot-shot at defense spending - ignorantly assuming the people apparently have no need of national defense? - while in the process admitting that spending is mutable. Plus, you're willing to assume our needs there are far less than those "needs" which leftists and leftists alone get to define - in this case, as never changing (but ever growing). Sorry, but leftists can only hide for so long behind their transparent rhetoric and bogus logic.

You're right, I don't consider tax payments being shifted onto other taxpayers to be a reduction in expense, only a re-allotment of the expense. I never said that spending can't be reduced. Please provide information of the last time America spending was lower than the previous year. There's no pot shot at Defense spending, it is the largest discretionary spending item we have, and we spend way more than any country in the world.

If our rhetoric is transparent, and our logic bogus...at least we tell the truth.

 

[rahl]

you said should have been collected.

correct

that suggests you think the amount being taken from taxpayers was a proper amount and the tax cuts were wrong.

yes, cutting taxes was wrong, as it reduced revenue.

I think way too much is taken from taxpayers and the government spends far too much money.

then tell republicans to stop spending like drunken teenagers, while at the same time slashing revenues.

 

[TurtleDude]

correct

yes, cutting taxes was wrong, as it reduced revenue.

then tell republicans to stop spending like drunken teenagers, while at the same time slashing revenues.

I want to cut taxes first and starve the beast. People such as you think the taxpayers (mainly the top 5%) have a duty to keep paying and paying and paying

 

[KLATTU]

uh, all of the money that should have been collected in taxes, ended up not being collected, which EXPLODED the deficit and the debt, which is what republicans do every single time they are in power.

makes no sense.but thanks for trying

 

[KLATTU]

i think ya'll need to open a restaurant. Try meeting payroll and replenishing inventory. You'll quickly learn what a cost is.LOL
#ACCOUNTING

 

[iguanaman]

the tax cuts cost zero. Tax cuts never cost anything.Words matter.
The bbb plan will cost 3.5 trillion if passed as requested.

Tax cuts cost revenue just like spending does. There is no difference except that the country gains nothing from cutting taxes. Spending increases employment and the GDP.

 

[TurtleDude]

makes no sense.but thanks for trying

I believe he is part of the mindset that thinks that all money first belongs to the government and the government should always have the first and best claim on all wealth

 

[TurtleDude]

Tax cuts cost revenue just like spending does. There is no difference except that the country gains nothing from cutting taxes.

more oozing bullshit-people who ACTUALLY pay taxes gain plenty from tax cuts. Parasites do not

 

[calamity]

I believe he is part of the mindset that thinks that all money first belongs to the government and the government should always have the first and best claim on all wealth

You just made that up because he was winning the argument.

 

[calamity]

more oozing bullshit-people who ACTUALLY pay taxes gain plenty from tax cuts. Parasites do not

There are no parasites like the silver spoon born trust funders. At least poor people are humble. The others....false bravado with nothing but the ovaries they came from backing them up.

 

[iguanaman]

more oozing bullshit-people who ACTUALLY pay taxes gain plenty from tax cuts. Parasites do not

Spending increases employment and the GDP. Tax cuts increase the already huge nest eggs of the wealthy.

 

[TurtleDude]

Spending increases employment and the GDP. Tax cuts increase the already huge nest eggs of the wealthy.

socialism sounds like a great idea until you run out of other peoples' money

I get the fact that your posts ooze envy and hatred towards the rich.

 

[iguanaman]

socialism sounds like a great idea until you run out of other peoples' money

I get the fact that your posts ooze envy and hatred towards the rich.

Funny but you are the one that sounds angry and hateful. Taxes are not socialism.

 

[TurtleDude]

Funny but you are the one that sounds angry and hateful. Taxes are not socialism.

taking taxes to buy the votes of some, is pandering

 

[ALiberalModerate]

why did a majority of people who are making over 100K a year vote for Trump? I don't think Trump is as smart as Romney or Obama, but I believe he is much smarter than Biden. I think my son traps stuff smarter than Biden.

Because they wanted low taxes I guess. Our household earns well over 100k a year and I sure as hell didn't vote for him. Then again, I have this thing about not voting for utterly despicable people, but that is just me.

Also, old white people tended to vote for Trump and they tend to earn more regardless of their education level or intelligence.

 

[Helix]

This thread title is not clever.

 

[tres borrachos]

Because they wanted low taxes I guess. Our household earns well over 100k a year and I sure as hell didn't vote for him. Then again, I have this thing about not voting for utterly despicable people, but that is just me.

It isn't just you.

Our household also earns well over 100k per year. I voted for Biden and am damn glad I did it.

 

[KLATTU]

I believe he is part of the mindset that thinks that all money first belongs to the government and the government should always have the first and best claim on all wealth

yes .precisely. exactly.that is what lefties believe.

 

[calamity]

taking taxes to buy the votes of some, is pandering

Food for thought

 

[calamity]

It isn't just you.

Our household also earns well over 100k per year. I voted for Biden and am damn glad I did it.

Word

 

[tres borrachos]

Word

Guns!

 

[tres borrachos]

I believe he is part of the mindset that thinks that all money first belongs to the government and the government should always have the first and best claim on all wealth

Except he never said that. Your degree failed you once again. He was patiently explaining to the ones who don't understand what a cut in revenue is, and never said anything about everyone should hand over their earnings to the government first. But I can see he wasted his time because some people are too slow to understand his simple post.

 

[TurtleDude]

Except he never said that. Your degree failed you once again. He was patiently explaining to the ones who don't understand what a cut in revenue is, and never said anything about everyone should hand over their earnings to the government first. But I can see he wasted his time because some people are too slow to understand his simple post.

But it is obvious that is what he believes. No one denies that tax cuts have caused the government to perhaps have less money to waste

 

[eohrnberger]

why not focus on the fact that the american people gained 2+ trillion dollars

And weren't those $2T injected into the private economy?

 

[OpportunityCost]

You're right, I don't consider tax payments being shifted onto other taxpayers to be a reduction in expense, only a re-allotment of the expense. I never said that spending can't be reduced. Please provide information of the last time America spending was lower than the previous year. There's no pot shot at Defense spending, it is the largest discretionary spending item we have, and we spend way more than any country in the world.

If our rhetoric is transparent, and our logic bogus...at least we tell the truth.

A Historical Perspective on Defense Budgets

Lawrence J. Korb, Laura Conley, and Alex Rothman look back on how previous presidents brought defense spending into balance.

www.americanprogress.org

The only spending ever on the block for Democrats is defense spending. Its time to find another budget to cut that hurts your political interests.