A Disturbing Picture of Rick Perry, and the Religious Right

[LuckyDan]

So you won't answer the question. I didn't think you would

Then you're smarter than I thought!

Get yourself a cookie.

 

[LuckyDan]

That's only one of my concerns, again, I'm equally concerned about the mainstreaming of what have been, traditionally, (With good reason.) radical, fringe ideas into the mainstream.



I think the best source would be the official website. It's hardly unbiased, but it is informative, if a little scary.
The Response: A call to prayer for a nation in crisis

Thank you.Yes I found that, but after a few clicks I was still unable to determine anything about how the rally came to be or was organized. The site looks more like an ad than anything else. I've been looking for reportage.

Plus, it's a very churchy site. Something one might see about any Christian gathering - assuming the organizers have money to spend. Pedestrian stuff, really, except maybe to those who have not seen such things many times before.

 

[sangha]

Thank you.Yes I found that, but after a few clicks I was still unable to determine anything about how the rally came to be or was organized. The site looks more like an ad than anything else. I've been looking for reportage.

Plus, it's a very churchy site. Something one might see about any Christian gathering - assuming the organizers have money to spend. Pedestrian stuff, really, except maybe to those who have not seen such things many times before.

Did you consider clicking on the link where it says "Leadership" or did you not realize that would bring you to the page that lists the leaders of this event?

Leadership | The Response: August 6, 2011

 

[Sheik Yerbuti]

I really don't see the difference between attacking Obama for his connections with Wright from attacking Perry for his connections with Hagee. Both are meaningless attacks which do not speak about the candidates themselves.

 

[NGNM85]

I really don't see the difference between attacking Obama for his connections with Wright from attacking Perry for his connections with Hagee. Both are meaningless attacks which do not speak about the candidates themselves.

Again; I think there's a fundamental difference. Obama never held a Liberation Theology rally w/ Wright and Farrakhan.

 

[nota bene]

And Perry wasn't "mentored" or attend Hagee's church for 20 years, nor did Hagee marry him and baptize his children.

 

[solletica]

Well, alright. I've no doubt you are sincere in your concerns, I just don't share them.

I see no reason to believe Perry would subvert the constitution in his role as POTUS.

perry doesn't give a rat's ass about the The Constitution because the Constitution is not bankrolling his campaign;

it's bankrolled by the titanium and auto industry, to which he owes allegiance and will gladly give taxpayer money to (as weflare). . .

Auto magnate B.J. "Red" McCombs, who contributed nearly $400,000 to the governor, is the primary financial backer for a Formula One racetrack to be built near Austin. The state has pledged $25 million a year in subsidies to support the project.

Gov. Rick Perry's big donors fare well in Texas - latimes.com

I see no reason to believe Perry would subvert the constitution in his role as POTUS.

As evidenced above, GOP voters don't see anything. They just vote for whomever gives them the Jesus talk.

 

[nota bene]

What? There are no GOP secularists?!

 

[LuckyDan]

Did you consider clicking on the link where it says "Leadership" or did you not realize that would bring you to the page that lists the leaders of this event?

Leadership | The Response: August 6, 2011

Yes. I saw that. I even had the page saved in a folder on the topic. It says nothing about the concept or organization of the rally, which you would have seen for yourself had you read it.

 

[LuckyDan]

perry doesn't give a rat's ass about the The Constitution because the Constitution is not bankrolling his campaign;

it's bankrolled by the titanium and auto industry, to which he owes allegiance and will gladly give taxpayer money to (as weflare). . .





As evidenced above, GOP voters don't see anything. They just vote for whomever gives them the Jesus talk.

I was unaware Perry was a pawn of Big Titanium. Scary stuff. Thanks.

Looks like I'll have to go with Obama.

 

[sangha]

Yes. I saw that. I even had the page saved in a folder on the topic. It says nothing about the concept or organization of the rally, which you would have seen for yourself had you read it.

SO what do you think Perry initiated?

 

[LuckyDan]

SO what do you think Perry initiated?

Isn't it obvious? The takever of the US Government by the Religious Right.

Or a really long prayer rally.

 

[sangha]

Isn't it obvious? The takever of the US Government by the Religious Right.

Or a really long prayer rally.

So you don't want to answer that simple question?

Do you really think a lame joke is going to hide your refusal to respond with substance?

 

[LuckyDan]

So you don't want to answer that simple question?

Do you really think a lame joke is going to hide your refusal to respond with substance?

It's worked for you 6500 times. Thought I'd give it a shot.

If your question is, "What did Perry organize?" even your link doesn't answer the question. He is decribed as "the initiator" not the planner and organizer. So he said, "Let's have a prayer rally and invite some prominent Christians." Okay.

Who was in charge? Who signed off on who would speak? On who would set up booths? On what would and would not be said?

I'm not looking for smoking guns, because I'm not bothered by the rally. I was just curious.

 

[sangha]

It's worked for you 6500 times. Thought I'd give it a shot.

If your question is, "What did Perry organize?" even your link doesn't answer the question. He is decribed as "the initiator" not the planner and organizer. So he said, "Let's have a prayer rally and invite some prominent Christians." Okay.

Who was in charge? Who signed off on who would speak? On who would set up booths? On what would and would not be said?

I'm not looking for smoking guns, because I'm not bothered by the rally. I was just curious.

I guess his being in the leadership means he had nothing to do with it :roll:

 

[LuckyDan]

I guess his being in the leadership means he had nothing to do with it :roll:

The answer to my question is more likely Luis & Jill Cataldo, who are listed as director and program coordinator, and who are from IHOP, the International House of Prayer, which is I believe Mike Bickle's gang. (He's the guy who upset the OP with his talk that the anti-Christ will be someone like Oprah Winfrey, tho I'm not sure he spoke at the rally.

Of course Perry had a key role. And yes, those frightened of Christian cons will say they're terrified.

Oh well.

 

[nota bene]

Exactly. Oh, well. I happened to be in Houston on August 6th and only blocks away but wasn't interested in attending the rally even though I'm a practicing Christian. I don't understand what appears to be real fear. The sun came up, the sun set, and the sun came up again. The prayer rally didn't affect me in any way, so I'm guessing it didn't affect anybody else who didn't attend. So what's the big deal?

 

[deltabtry]

Exactly. Oh, well. I happened to be in Houston on August 6th and only blocks away but wasn't interested in attending the rally even though I'm a practicing Christian. I don't understand what appears to be real fear. The sun came up, the sun set, and the sun came up again. The prayer rally didn't affect me in any way, so I'm guessing it didn't affect anybody else who didn't attend. So what's the big deal?

This will be the left's strategy in attempting to defeat Perry by character assassination only. If the American people fall for this silly nonsense proposed by the left and numerous media outlets in print, internet and television then they rightly deserve what they get. If Perry allows this topic to consume his campaign then he deserve to lose. Now that said, if the left wishes to go down this road then the right can also pursue this path with Obama or any one on the left, so let the mud fly if this is what we want. After all said and done we will have another NUB in office.

 

[sangha]

This will be the left's strategy in attempting to defeat Perry by character assassination only. If the American people fall for this silly nonsense proposed by the left and numerous media outlets in print, internet and television then they rightly deserve what they get. If Perry allows this topic to consume his campaign then he deserve to lose. Now that said, if the left wishes to go down this road then the right can also pursue this path with Obama or any one on the left, so let the mud fly if this is what we want. After all said and done we will have another NUB in office.

Oh, there is so much more to attack Perry with

The late Molly Ivins, on Rick Perry | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

Ricks Dirty Deals

Rick Perry Super PACs Raise Issues of Coordination, Collusion - Democratic Underground

Rick Perry Super PACs Raise Issues of Coordination, Collusion

Homeowners of Texas - Bob Perry ? The Godfather of Texas Homebuilding & Politics

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/the-texas-unmiracle.html

So what you need to know is that the Texas miracle is a myth, and more broadly that Texan experience offers no useful lessons on how to restore national full employment.

It’s true that Texas entered recession a bit later than the rest of America, mainly because the state’s still energy-heavy economy was buoyed by high oil prices through the first half of 2008. Also, Texas was spared the worst of the housing crisis, partly because it turns out to have surprisingly strict regulation of mortgage lending.

-snip-

In June 2011, the Texas unemployment rate was 8.2 percent. That was less than unemployment in collapsed-bubble states like California and Florida, but it was slightly higher than the unemployment rate in New York, and significantly higher than the rate in Massachusetts. By the way, one in four Texans lacks health insurance, the highest proportion in the nation, thanks largely to the state’s small-government approach. Meanwhile, Massachusetts has near-universal coverage thanks to health reform very similar to the “job-killing” Affordable Care Act.

-snip-

What Texas shows is that a state offering cheap labor and, less important, weak regulation can attract jobs from other states. I believe that the appropriate response to this insight is “Well, duh.” The point is that arguing from this experience that depressing wages and dismantling regulation in America as a whole would create more jobs — which is, whatever Mr. Perry may say, what Perrynomics amounts to in practice — involves a fallacy of composition: every state can’t lure jobs away from every other state.

 

[haymarket]

This will be the left's strategy in attempting to defeat Perry by character assassination only.

Perhaps they have been observing the Obama hatefest over the past three years?

If Perry had the character of Mother Theresa, what would there be to assassinate?

 

[nota bene]

Perhaps they have been observing the Obama hatefest over the past three years?

If Perry had the character of Mother Theresa, what would there be to assassinate?

That's not the point, is it?

Isn't the point that character assassination is wrong and also lame if there are genuine issues to criticize about a candidate (which there are)?

 

[deltabtry]

Perhaps they have been observing the Obama hatefest over the past three years?

If Perry had the character of Mother Theresa, what would there be to assassinate?

LOL.. you right but I am sure we would find some sort of scandal.

 

[NGNM85]

Perry | Monitoring a Growing Dominionist Movement

 

[deltabtry]

Perry | Monitoring a Growing Dominionist Movement

Do have have a deep hatred of religion?

 

[NGNM85]

Do have have a deep hatred of religion?

First of all, you don't have to harbor any disdain towards religion to be disturbed by Dominionism, or Christian Zionism. I think many devout Christians find these fanatical sects deeply disturbing.

If by hate you mean an irrational prejudice, no. Whatever feelings I have on the subject do not rob me of my reason, quite the contrary. My objections to religion are twofold;

On the macro scale; I oppose religion because it is, by definition, irrational, and there simply aren’t any good arguments for irrationality. Reason is the only game in town.

On the micro scale; I object to the specific tenets of specific faiths, both for what they are, and the effect they have on society.