They don’t have the same student bodies.
Nope - there is federal law.
Not state.
I’m sorry you don’t respect laws
Agreed. But keep in mind MA traditional public schools are generally regarded as among the best in the nation, yet they are out performed by MA's charters. Perhaps there's something in the MA charter system that's worth replicating nation-wide?
No one is arguing they are a replacement. But you're absolutely right: charters do the most good where the most good is needed: poorer urban neighborhoods. Now ask yourself if they do improve public education in those neighborhoods, why are they so staunchly opposed by the teachers' unions?
Yes, they do. Again, why do MA charters have better numbers for ELL and minority students? You keep avoiding this question.
Schools that are able to pick and choose students and keep class sizes at a preferred level and who have involved parents that are invested in their child’s education will have better outcomes.
Yes---our public schools do that, and they are called charter schools. The local tax payers pay for those as well.
no---they ARE part of the public-funded school system, so yes, they can send them.
Our public school has a vast special needs program, and is very well done, but very costly. If there was a local "charter" or private school here for special needs kids, then maybe they would send them But out two local private schools, which are excellent, would never take special needs kids...........
they would, and many here make considerable sacrifices to send their kids to the private schools, although our public school is a good one----not wealthy, but good.
Think it through.
They shouldn't
How many times do you need to be told it is illegal for MA charters to "pick and choose students?" They don't do it, and any MA charter that did would lose its charter in a heartbeat.Schools that are able to pick and choose students and keep class sizes at a preferred level and who have involved parents that are invested in their child’s education will have better outcomes.
You keep pretending that public schools and charter schools get the same students.
They don’t.
... and for that excuse, see post #120.
No, you think it through and answer this question. Where is your proof this is having a negative effect on the traditional public schools used in the studies I've cited?
No, they should deliver high quality education, and they do.
No, they don't.
Except that they can't actually account for that properly because those additional students in the public schools without involved parents take time away from students with involved parents in public schools. This is not the case when it comes to those in charter schools since they would only, mainly have some level of involved parents.
That doesn't work, either. See post #120.
Proof that it has a negative effect?
BS, even your flawed studies show the difference is tiny, and they dont takee into account the reality of the differences in admissions.
No I haven't. Not even slightly. It's for everyone. Equally.
Charter schools do get funding from local taxes. They are overseen by a school district. Only students who live in that school district may attend.
Depends on the state. In MA, all three of those statements are false. The state provides funding, the state oversees charters, and students need not live in the town where the charter is located.
They can refuse students because they only have so much room and they don't have to take students mid year, unlike public schools. They can also do interviews or record review to screen students.
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Hmm... Perhaps your area has a different system but here in AZ charter schools only receive state funds for enrolled students. If they are educating the students they should receive the compensation.
So, the public schools can expell disruptive students but any charter school must accept them, blatant double standard.
The public schools have an expensive, but well done special needs program. But, your complaint is charter schools aren't siphoning off special needs kids. Brilliant.
Everyone who pays taxes makes a sacrifice to provide kids with an education. Why shouldn't parents be able to choose the best option ?
Why do you think this difference makes any real difference when it comes to comparing results?
I stand corrected. In my state, Missouri, those statements are true. I do believe that local oversight is better than state oversight. Also, in Missouri, charter schools partner with a local college or university.
Because it makes a difference in how much can be planned for when it comes to teaching during the school year. The teacher knows their students and what to expect. They don't have to work with someone to catch them up. That is a big difference, especially if the kid is special needs or has an IEP.
No, it's not a big difference. How many mid-year add do you think a school typically handles?
???? quality students = quality results
Depends on the size and location of the schools. Schools in military neighborhoods see it all the time. Schools in areas facing large changes in growth, either additions or reductions of neighborhoods will also see a lot.
MA charters produce better student outcomes with the same kinds of students. Study after study as proven it.