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65 Percent of People Taken by ICE Had No Convictions, 93 Percent No Violent Convictions

Someone didn't read what this thread is about............
65 percent, or 133,687 individuals, had no criminal convictions. Moreover, more than 93 percent of ICE book-ins were never convicted of any violent offenses.

My guess is that someone sees "hombres" and just assumes they are ALL bad.
If they don't go through the effort and expense of a trial then of course they don't have a conviction. It's not really that hard to understand.
 
If they don't go through the effort and expense of a trial then of course they don't have a conviction. It's not really that hard to understand.
Ah, there you have it folks, it's not that they don't have criminal convictions or that they were never convicted of any violent offenses, but that they never made it to trial, because ALL hombres are bad.
Bad hombres
 
Ah, there you have it folks, it's not that they don't have criminal convictions or that they were never convicted of any violent offenses, but that they never made it to trial, because ALL hombres are bad.
Trails and jail is expensive. Criminal rehabilitation is spent on Americans planning to stay here. I know you're smart enough to figure it out.
 
Trails and jail is expensive. Criminal rehabilitation is spent on Americans planning to stay here. I know you're smart enough to figure it out.
I am also smart enough not to assume ALL hombres are criminals. Mind you, I know where you get your ideas. A certain politician likes to call Hispanic illegals "bad hombres" too. Nothing like original thinking or even lucid thinking, just take your cue and your attitudes from your Leader.
 
"New nonpublic data from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) indicate that the government is primarily detaining individuals with no criminal convictions of any kind. Also, among those with criminal convictions, they are overwhelmingly not the violent offenses that ICE continuously uses to justify its deportation agenda. ICE has shared this data with people outside the agency, who shared the numbers with the Cato Institute.

As of June 14, ICE had booked into detention 204,297 individuals (since October 1, 2024, the start of fiscal year 2025). Of those book-ins, 65 percent, or 133,687 individuals, had no criminal convictions. Moreover, more than 93 percent of ICE book-ins were never convicted of any violent offenses. About nine in ten had no convictions for violent or property offenses. Most convictions (53 percent) fell into three main categories: immigration, traffic, or nonviolent vice crimes. The appendix table at the end of this post has data by detailed crime and broad crime categorization."

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Interesting when you consider ICE was created to protect us from foreign threats, not serve as the president's personal gestapo.

The other day, a car wash owner accused ICE agents of acting like criminals. They are causing more damage to communities than are the people they are rounding up.
You mean there are not millions of heinous violent immigrants walking the streets of America?

This is my shocked face...
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Trails and jail is expensive. Criminal rehabilitation is spent on Americans planning to stay here. I know you're smart enough to figure it out.
So discount the Constitution?
 
Then most of those deported by ICE should have little difficulty entering the country legally, and provided with a way of showing they have legally enter the country if/when asked.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that being "deported" carries an automatic ban to entry (typically five or ten years) -- regardless of the facts behind the deportation.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that being "deported" carries an automatic ban to entry (typically five or ten years) -- regardless of the facts behind the deportation.
That's why earlier I proposed there should be a time period allowing ALL who have entered illegally to identify themselves and exist the U.S. on their own for say a period of 1 week or more, after which they would receive expedited reentry at a legal entry point where they would be fully documented and given some ID to show they are in the U.S. legally if/when asked, and permission to work for a period of time renewable every say 90 days.
Those who have to be found by ICE and deported should be banned for a period of at least 5 years or more.
 
Just one point.

Everyone who crosses the border illegally has broken the law.

Everyone who seeks employment illegally has broken the law.

Everyone who uses forged documents to either enter the nation or to secure employment illegally has broken the law.

Everyone who uses uninsured vehicles (A very common issue in Southern California) illegally has broken the law.

Everyone who uses unregistered vehicles (Also a very common issue in Southern California) illegally has broken the law.

So everyone of age here illegally has broken at least one law.....
That is all true, at the same time, I don't think most people think someone that came here illegally and works here illegally, is a criminal. They are thinking more of gang members, drug dealers and so on. If we deport everyone that is here illegally, I don't know how anyone will ever get concrete poured or a house roofed again. If the quota for deportations is 3000 a day, there simply are not enough gang members, violent criminals, and drug dealers here illegally to meet that quota on an ongoing basis. They have to deport people that are just here for work and a better life.
 
That is all true, at the same time, I don't think most people think someone that came here illegally and works here illegally, is a criminal. They are thinking more of gang members, drug dealers and so on. If we deport everyone that is here illegally, I don't know how anyone will ever get concrete poured or a house roofed again. If the quota for deportations is 3000 a day, there simply are not enough gang members, violent criminals, and drug dealers here illegally to meet that quota on an ongoing basis. They have to deport people that are just here for work and a better life.

Technically if you break the law you are a criminal.

While I understand why many do what they do they have to understand that you role the die when you cheat your way in.

Back in the 1960s and 1970s it was much more relaxed. I remember a Cheech and Chong movie where a wedding party called immigration on themselves to self deport to save money on the trip home. My Father in Law was deported numerous times and finally naturalized in the 1980s.

Now things are much more strict.

Which sucks in a way as our farming in California is heavily tied to legal and illegal immigrants.
 
Bad hombres just get deported. We often don't bother with the expense of a trial and conviction. But we do infact remember who they are just in case we see their sorry ass again.

Obviously not.
 
I'm telling you guys, this entire era of evil is because Stephen Miller was ridiculed in high school by Hispanic kids.
 
"New nonpublic data from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) indicate that the government is primarily detaining individuals with no criminal convictions of any kind. Also, among those with criminal convictions, they are overwhelmingly not the violent offenses that ICE continuously uses to justify its deportation agenda. ICE has shared this data with people outside the agency, who shared the numbers with the Cato Institute.

As of June 14, ICE had booked into detention 204,297 individuals (since October 1, 2024, the start of fiscal year 2025). Of those book-ins, 65 percent, or 133,687 individuals, had no criminal convictions. Moreover, more than 93 percent of ICE book-ins were never convicted of any violent offenses. About nine in ten had no convictions for violent or property offenses. Most convictions (53 percent) fell into three main categories: immigration, traffic, or nonviolent vice crimes. The appendix table at the end of this post has data by detailed crime and broad crime categorization."

Link

Interesting when you consider ICE was created to protect us from foreign threats, not serve as the president's personal gestapo.

The other day, a car wash owner accused ICE agents of acting like criminals. They are causing more damage to communities than are the people they are rounding up.

But they are in the country illegally...

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I'm telling you guys, this entire era of evil is because Stephen Miller was ridiculed in high school by Hispanic kids.

Were the Hispanic Kids racists?

Why were they bullying him?

You condone this sort of action?


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Then most of those deported by ICE should have little difficulty entering the country legally, and provided with a way of showing they have legally enter the country if/when asked.
Most illegal immigrants entered the country legally.
 
Most?

No.

Well maybe from and to Canada.
One crossing, San Ysidro, sees 20,000 northbound pedestrians every day. One crossing. And 70,000 northbound vehicles every day. All legal. One crossing.
And as for Canada, nothing could be easier than crossing that border. This is a street in my hometown...

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On the right is Canada. The street on the left is in Blaine, Washington. The little aluminium obelisk marks the border.
America can't be bothered to put up a chain-link fence but Trump says Canada should stop people stepping across into the USA.
 
One crossing, San Ysidro, sees 20,000 northbound pedestrians every day. One crossing. And 70,000 northbound vehicles every day. All legal. One crossing.
And as for Canada, nothing could be easier than crossing that border. This is a street in my hometown...

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On the right is Canada. The street on the left is in Blaine, Washington. The little aluminium obelisk marks the border.
America can't be bothered to put up a chain-link fence but Trump says Canada should stop people stepping across into the USA.

Legal crossing are legal.

"Most illegal immigrants entered the country legally"

You must have misspelled one of the words.
 
Legal crossing are legal.

"Most illegal immigrants entered the country legally"

You must have misspelled one of the words.
Not at all. A carload of Mexicans pulls up to the border crossing at San Ysidro, says they're going to visit Tia Maria and Tio Alejandro in San Diego, even have texts on their phones to confirm it, or they're going to Disneyland, or they're going shopping at Winners, and two days later there's only two in the car when it pulls up to the Mexican border control going back south.
That's one border crossing.
 
Not at all. A carload of Mexicans pulls up to the border crossing at San Ysidro, says their going to visit Tia Maria and Tio Alejandro in San Diego, even have texts on their phones to confirm it, or they're going to Disneyland, or they're going shopping at Winners, and two days later there's only two in the car when it pulls up to the Mexican border control going back south.
That's one border crossing.

You will find it a little harder crossing the border legally.
 
You will find it a little harder crossing the border legally.
The tech industry has lots of illegal immigrants, too. They went to school on student visas and in the weeks before graduation there's job fairs and recruiting drives run by people who don't care much about government paperwork when they're competing for talent. But those illegal immigrants have different accents and complexions from the ones ICE rounds up.
 
The tech industry has lots of illegal immigrants, too. They went to school on student visas and in the weeks before graduation there's job fairs and recruiting drives run by people who don't care much about government paperwork when they're competing for talent. But those illegal immigrants have different accents and complexions from the ones ICE rounds up.

Overstayed visas are an issue as well.
 
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