Again I aint justifying anything. It is you that is putting a price tag on this and calling it failure because it does not work perfectly. the iPhone, iPad, Google, Facebook, Microsoft.. because they all did not work perfectly from the start and still dont work perfectly.
The reason for this nationwide headache apparently stems from poorly written code, which buckled under the heavy influx of traffic that its engineers and administrators should have seen coming. But the fact that Healthcare.gov can’t do the one job it was built to do isn’t the most infuriating part of this debacle – it’s that we, the taxpayers, seem to have forked up more than $634 million of the federal purse to build the digital equivalent of a rock.
The exact cost to build Healthcare.gov, according to U.S. government records, appears to have been $634,320,919, which we paid to a company you probably never heard of: CGI Federal. The company originally won the contract back in 2011, but at that time, the cost was expected to run “up to” $93.7 million – still a chunk of change, but nothing near where it ended up.
Given the complicated nature of federal contracts, it’s difficult to make a direct comparison between the cost to develop Healthcare.gov and the amount of money spent building private online businesses. But for the sake of putting the monstrous amount of money into perspective, here are a few figures to chew on: Facebook, which received its first investment in June 2004, operated for a full six years before surpassing the $600 million mark in June 2010. Twitter, created in 2006, managed to get by with only $360.17 million in total funding until a $400 million boost in 2011. Instagram ginned up just $57.5 million in funding before Facebook bought it for (a staggering) $1 billion last year. And LinkedIn and Spotify, meanwhile, have only raised, respectively, $200 million and $288 million.
Read more: Obamacare's broken website cost more than LinkedIn, Spotify combined | Digital Trends
One website that connects to every state and various databases that the makers of the website did not create. Do you know how hard that is to do?
Indeed - how much did Ford sink into the Edsel before they gave up and trashed it?
Bullcrap. It's ONE website for 34 states. It's not hard to do.
Yes, but it's the holy and righteous intentions that matter more than whether it actually works or not - and given the intentions are holy and righteous, no price tag is too high for such honorable and exalted motives.It doesn't feckin' WORK.... PERIOD. It's not a matter of an occasional error. It's so broken most people can't even use the damned thing. Not one of those technologies you mentioned got launched so broken that they were utterly unusable. This is the worst failure in a tech launch I've ever seen. EVER seen. And there's nothing even close. Hell, I can't think of any product launch that has been worse in history. Even the Titanic floated for awhile before sinking.
The cost is ridiculous. The federal government created a single site for 34 states. It's a single implementation that cost 634 dollars. It's not the "interfaces with other government sites" that make it so users can't register or log on. There may well be problems interfacing with other computers and, if there are interfaces with other computers, It's damned near a sure thing given the quality of the code. The problem so visible is upstream from any of that.
There's no excuse for this. Anyone with any IS/IT experience knows that in the private sector heads would roll over such a colossal failure.
And, by the way.... those of you who want to try to compare it to an iphone or an Ipad.... Don't. It makes you look stupid. This wasn't even close to either one in terms of technical difficulty. It isn't an operating system. It's a fecking interactive web site and a simple one at that. For God's sake, we're typing messages into software HERE that's more complicated than the Insurance Exchange Website.
Perhaps the Dems shouldn't have hired 'anymoron' to do their little website then.I am guessing you are not a tech nerd.. or understand how websites and databases work. Because.. it is hard and takes time.
Any moron can make a basic website for 34 states.. but you try linking that website to multiple databases with personal information and all that.. And then you try to make it multi-functional, with many options and add to that a security layer that is actually secure.... oh and make it possible to input information as well, to be saved in a new or old database, which is dependent on what state you are in..
And then you make that webpage work with 10k hits per second..
Good luck!
Bullcrap. It's ONE website for 34 states. It's not hard to do.
Perhaps the Dems shouldn't have hired 'anymoron' to do their little website then.
Perhaps, but that's a different topic entirely and regardless, it wouldn't be justification for the incompetence so prominently on display now.Maybe, but then again the GOP does not have a stellar history in hiring private contractors either... how much was wasted on fraud in Iraq with private contractors?
I am guessing you are not a tech nerd.. or understand how websites and databases work. Because.. it is hard and takes time.
Yeah, I don't see that happening.
I checked out Drudge, and the "article" said it was $634,320,919. That's a bit short of 635 Billion.
On a side note, Drudge could use a new web designer.
Actually if you bothered going on to the site.. you would see it was 57 states and territories. Just check the pop down list
Also the website works fine for me.. but granted I did not actually register on it.. oh that adds another level of complexity!
LOL you need some perspective... Overspending is 40k for a toilet seat and 2 bucks for an asprin. Spending 13 million per state to implement a massive computer system is hardly overspending.. in fact I would almost say it is underspending. The problem with government computer systems is that they rely on the private sector in most cases and the private sector has a very bad reputation in screwing up big computer systems made for the government. Yes it is in part the fault of government not laying down the conditions correctly, but it is also the fault of the makers for exploiting the situation well knowing it wont work as intended. I have seen it many times, billions spent on big technology programs in government only to fall flat on its face. Government is generally a decade behind on technology in any country and are easily fooled because most elected politicians have zero computer skills so you can feed them any bull**** and get paid for it.
Once again, great analogy! :thumbs: Of all the vehicles that have come and gone over the years, most have collectors who save and store one or two for nostalgic reasons. I haven't heard of anyone who collected Edsels! I'm not familiar with the car, but it must have really been a dog!
Greeti8ngs, CJ. :2wave:
You people really stretch to mitigate what are obvious failures.
Again I aint justifying anything. It is you that is putting a price tag on this and calling it failure because it does not work perfectly. That must mean that every piece of technology is a failure...
the iPhone, iPad, Google, Facebook, Microsoft.. because they all did not work perfectly from the start and still dont work perfectly.
"We people" are not trying to "mitigate" anything. I cannot speak for others, but I am on record on this forum, more than once or twice, as an opponent (to put it mildly) of the ACA. In my very humble opinion, it is a horrible piece of legislation.
It doesn't mean that my understanding of the technical problems occurring at the website should be exactly the same as that of some other people who may oppose Obamacare for different reasons, or no reason whatsoever.
I see no parralels to this ridiculous law and investments in " technology", which I happen to be a big fan of.
Technology can be quantified and qualified objectively.
And I'm telling you from experience, ( 30 years building and troubleshooting electronic controllers down to the component level here ) that there is little room for substandard designs and botched product releases in my industry as well as other industries that deal with technology in general.
Your trying to equate the Obama administrations websites cost and its failures to a industry that doesn't factor in the politics of a corrupted ideology when they design and release a product.
You're trying to make the case that the explanations from the Obama camp are sincere and truthful. There is very little coming out of the Obama camp that is truthful.
I've heard their excuses, listened to Jack Lew tell Chris Wallace that it's "expected" and we should wait for the 1.2 or 1.3 version of the Website....ridiculous.
What are they running now ? A 635 MILLION dollar Beta ?
Sorry, but I'm not a Obama supporter so I'm not suscepatable to obvious BS.
"We people" are not trying to "mitigate"
anything. I cannot speak for others,
but I am on record on this forum, more than once or twice, as an opponent (to put it mildly) of the ACA. In my very humble opinion, it is a horrible piece of legislation.
It doesn't mean that my understanding of the technical problems occurring at the website should be exactly the same as that of some other people who may oppose Obamacare for different reasons, or no reason whatsoever.
It's not
even qualified to be called a BETA
release. Basic functionality has to work in BETA. Even the most basic functions of ObamaCare just plain don't work. In a professional environment you'd be called on the carpet for even submitting something this badly broken for testing.
It seems to me the that only those supporting the politics of it would be the hardcore partisan apologists for this level of failure.
Technical problems at a government-run mega-website is a predictable and trivial matter. If someone thinks that the damage these glitches cause is even worth discussing, comparing to the enormous harm Obamacare is going to inflict on our health care markets and economy at large, that someone probably does not understand what the real issues are.
Technical problems at a government-run
mega-website is a predictable and trivial matter. If someone thinks that the damage these glitches cause is even worth discussing, comparing to the enormous harm Obamacare is going to inflict on our health care markets and economy at large, that someone probably does not understand what the real issues are.
Excellent post.
Equating this to a private products release is a bit desperate but it would appear, the Left will say anything to justify this disaster.
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