6 Burning Questions About the Violent Crackdowns on Occupations Around the Country

[TheDemSocialist]

Occurring without provocation, the Occupy crackdown gives the appearance of an orchestrated effort to thwart an emerging protest movement. Early morning Tuesday, in New York City, hundreds of police officers, many in riot gear, swept down on Zuccotti Park, throwing away private property, restricting press and using aggressive tactics to remove protesters and supporters. Here are some things we’d really like to know.

1. Who convened the mayors call?
2. Was there an attempt to control press coverage?
3. What, if any, was the role of the White House?
4. Was the Department of Homeland Security involved in the raids?
5. What, if any, was the role of the FBI?
6. Where are the libertarians?

Read the full article here":6 Burning Questions About the Violent Crackdowns on Occupations Around the Country | Occupy Wall Street | AlterNetThese questions need to be answered. A lot of suspicious activity around these raids...

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[Keridan]

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My thoughts are that there has been a high incidence of broken laws and dangerous situations involved with these protests. They have been allowed to continue because there is an understandable fear of treading on the first amendment. It was time to do something. I'm not sure this was the best move, but I'm honestly at a loss to present a better idea.

Many of the questions are based on the implication that this was a federal government movement. The problem is that for there to really be an issue with that, you have to show they forced it. If it was a voluntary involvement by each city, then the federal government being involved is simply a proper flow of events. This is a national issue, even if each city has to handle their own movements. Coordinating those movements is not a trampling of states' rights.

Controlling press coverage is one that's up for debate IMO. If they did this, they better be able to show that it was out of reasonable caution for the safety of officers and protesters. Seeing as how they seem to have allowed some coverage, I doubt this case could be made. I do take issue with that point.

 

[X Factor]

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'Occupy Wall Street' protesters set up women-only tent to guard against sex attackers | News.com.au

'nuff said.

 

[Samhain]

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1) the Justice Department
2) no
3) they saw their "we support OWS" narrative quickly turn into "we support a pile of crappy douchebags", so they finally embraced the rule of law
4) no, they helped coordinate the sweeps
5) yes, they helped coordinate the sweeps
6) They are cheering the rule of law being enforced equally.

 

[MaggieD]

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Belongs under Conspiracy Theories. Ridiculous.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

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'Occupy Wall Street' protesters set up women-only tent to guard against sex attackers | News.com.au

'nuff said.

What the hell is wrong with people?

"Sexual harassment gets called rape, and it's not," one said when told of the women's tent. "There's no way that it's happening as much as people are saying it has. It's just word spreading and getting misunderstood."

For one: nobody lied and said a situation of sexual harassment WAS rape - as only one rape was reported.

As usually: many men (not all) but many don't feel that sexual-harassment is 'no big deal' and women should just tolerate some men and their asshole nature.

One woman also was against the tent, saying the protesters who put it up tore her tent down to make room without giving her any notice.

"I pretty much just got evicted," Angelina Isfreed, 32, said after returning to find her tent taken down. "I won't be staying there."

Did she really just say she was EVICTED from a TENT because they moved her tent to make room for a metal-framed women's terror shelter in the middle of a live in protest?

You know: if this has to happen because people want to exercise their 1st amendment 'right' then GEESH - find a new cause!

 

[Tigger]

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I've got 6 better questions?

1. Why the hell did it take so long to be done?
2. Why weren't there more people arrested?
3. Why weren't there more people hospitalized?
4. Why haven't these areas now been secured to ensure the squatters can't return?
5. Why weren't National Guard troops used?
6. Why the hell did it take so long to be done?

 

[DrunkenAsparagus]

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Where are the Libertarians?

The 1st Amendment protects speech, assembly, and petition. It does not protect every action done in concert with expressing one's opinion. Showing up everyday and protesting is fine. Squatting is not.

 

[Keridan]

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6. Where are the libertarians?

I was just wondering if I'm the only libertarian that got a chuckle when they read this.

 

[Mach]

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There's only one burning question, why we're letting these ass-hats consume so much of our resources and time in dealing with their block parties and riots.

 

[conservativeguy]

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When that silly article started with this.....

Occurring without provocation, the Occupy crackdown gives the appearance of an orchestrated effort to thwart an emerging protest movement.*

........I was laughing so hard I could barely finish the piece. I have a question. Why are you OWS folks such drama queens?

 

[Aunt Spiker]

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When that silly article started with this.....



........I was laughing so hard I could barely finish the piece. I have a question. Why are you OWS folks such drama queens?

I thought that part was funny because it suggests that OWS isn't actually a protest movement - yet - and hasn't already emerged as such.

 

[conservativeguy]

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I thought that part was funny because it suggests that OWS isn't actually a protest movement - yet - and hasn't already emerged as such.

I loved the "Occurring without provocation.....":lamo

 

[Aunt Spiker]

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I loved the "Occurring without provocation.....":lamo

LOL "ladeda ladeda"

one day while trolloping in the field of endless daisies

"dalede dalede"

Susan ran into a bad bad man who said he worked at Target

 

[OneMale]

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Why the subliminal use of "burning" questions?
1. What difference does it "who convened" make as they all took part in it collectively.
2. Which direction of tilted bias as there are more than just two sides to this story? there are OWS, teaparty, dems, pubs, libs, cons, unions, students, parents, protestors, police, print vs radio, vs tv vs cable vs internet competing for advertising dollars and ratings.

3. The community organizer and chief, come on it is self evident it wasn't Obama. The Czars yes.
4. If not they need to get rid of the organization.
5. If not, they need to get rid of management.
6. They understand the separation between character's rights and gender's liberty and they see this as a political staged event and it is going to get really ugly since the silent majority isn't buying it as directed by the media.

 

[LaughAtTheWorld]

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Sorry to break it to you, but:
FAIL, FAIL, FAIL

 

[Snapper Head]

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@TheDemSocialist,

So, uh, do YOU have an opinion, or is this just another cut and paste thread of yours?

There is a pattern of lack, on your part. If you want thoughts/comments/response, then perhaps you could start the ball rolling by contributing your viewpoint as it relates to your c&p.

If we are to assume that you fall in completely in line with your c&p, it would be worth stating so, at a minimum.

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Big Al

 

[Fiddytree]

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This is lotion for the lusty palms of the OWS. Pieces like these are meant to self-congratulate the efforts of the minority against the odds, and add a flair for the justness to the cause. Utter nonsense.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

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This is lotion for the lusty palms of the OWS.

Oooh - good phrasing. I like that.

 

[ChuckBerry]

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Such apocalyptic language and deliberately ignoring the legitimate public safety issues surrounding these "occupations" doesn't help your cause, it just makes people dig their heels in deeper. Maybe you don't care.

 

[Temporal]

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I can agree that the camping aspect was not necessarily supportable by law, but it was not just campers who were targets of police violence.

The more that people support the denial of free speech of their political opponents, the less that they themselves will have the same rights when it comes time for them to speak.

People really need to understand that the only dissent our government tolerates is the kind that does not challenge the plutocrats. The OWS protest represented a gathering of activists on one of the three major branches of power in this country: the financial sector. It's why Obama called the Iraq troops home.

As protests become more and more threatening to government and the forces that control it, the more tyranny we are going to see. Mark my words.