5500 drunk and fornicating teens invade Troon beach, Ayrshire

[Infinite Chaos]

Horde of 5,500 'drunk and fornicating' teens drive shocked families from sun-kissed beach

Hordes of drunk and rowdy teens forced terrified families off a beach after they invaded the sand on the hottest day of the year so far.
Thousands of Glaswegian youths descended on Troon beach in Ayrshire on Friday, stretching emergency services to the limit.
They left a trail of booze-fuelled casualties in their wake.
Fights broke out on the packed sands, Class A drugs were seized, and families were forced to watch on in horror at youngsters fornicating in bushes. Link.

Teenagers eh!

There was a brilliant thread on the most British news story ever a while ago

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/228027-most-british-news-story-ever.html

but maybe we've gotten so used to our teenagers drinking themselves stupid in alcohol pits in Spain and Greece that this kind of thing on home turf has been forgotten.

 

[PeteEU]

Teenagers eh!

There was a brilliant thread on the most British news story ever a while ago

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/228027-most-british-news-story-ever.html

but maybe we've gotten so used to our teenagers drinking themselves stupid in alcohol pits in Spain and Greece that this kind of thing on home turf has been forgotten.

Well, the question is why Brits do this? I saw a documentary "Who do you think you are" on TV, and this guys ancestor in the 1800s was killed in a drunken brawl he started. As the historian said, it was quite common problem in 1800s. 200 years later and it is still a problem.

But the kicker here is.. other countries nationals dont do this. So what is the difference that causes this problem among Brits but not so much if at all among Spaniards, Germans, Danes and so on?

 

[Andalublue]

Well, the question is why Brits do this? I saw a documentary "Who do you think you are" on TV, and this guys ancestor in the 1800s was killed in a drunken brawl he started. As the historian said, it was quite common problem in 1800s. 200 years later and it is still a problem.

But the kicker here is.. other countries nationals dont do this. So what is the difference that causes this problem among Brits but not so much if at all among Spaniards, Germans, Danes and so on?

Sure they do. The Finns are famous for their drunken binges. The botellones of working class Spanish kids are examples of exactly the same sort of behaviour.

 

[Bethlehem Bill]

closest i ever came was senior week in high school

we all went to ocean city maryland and rented a house for 5 days

drunken, and fornicating - yes. but there were only 10 of us in the house and no more than 30 at a given party

impressive to rally over 5000 to show up and party like that - wish i could have joined them!

 

[PeteEU]

Sure they do. The Finns are famous for their drunken binges. The botellones of working class Spanish kids are examples of exactly the same sort of behaviour.

Not in the same magnitude. Sure teenagers in Denmark have done stupid things while drunk, but not on this scale nor this often, and they certainly do not continue to do it in adulthood.. which many Brits do.

 

[John V]

I think the ‘problem’ begins when this is no longer seen as a problem, but a normal and regular fun night out.
It’s cultural; a society with no future, is busily destroying itself and pretending it’s fun.



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[Infinite Chaos]

Not in the same magnitude. Sure teenagers in Denmark have done stupid things while drunk, but not on this scale nor this often, and they certainly do not continue to do it in adulthood.. which many Brits do.

I'd never heard of botellón until Andy's post - the Troon incident was simply a one-off; part of the facebook phenomenon as it seems the idea started on Facebook (I thought teenagers had abandoned FB?) and thus half of Glasgow's young seemed to have turned out.

The origins of botellón started in Andalucia during the 1980s. It started as a way for Andalucian workers to be able to enjoy a cheap drink outdoors instead of conforming to the prices that were offered in the bars (5€ to 6€ on average). Nowadays, teenagers have adopted this phenomenon as a part of daily life.

Where to botellón
There are many plazas and parking lots around Sevilla where you can find lots of people drinking in the street or you can just grab a comfortable spot somewhere with your friends. (Botelloning by yourself is called being a hobo). Most botellóns start around midnight and last until 4 a.m. Here are a couple popular places these days…

Plaza de Cuba (Wednesday)
Plaza Alfalfa (Tuesday through Saturday)
Viapol (Thursday)
Calle Betis (All weekend)
Plaza del Pan (All weekend)
Capote (Everyday in the summer!)
Plaza de Salvador (All week)

Anyhow, botellón seem to happen at night-time so maybe, being an old git like you are, you're tucked up in bed with your hot water bottle when they happen?

~ impressive to rally over 5000 to show up and party like that - wish i could have joined them!

The Spanish version seems so much more civilised though. Our kids just want a punch-up.

 

[spud_meister]

I'm seriously considering changing my avatar:

 

[Ben K.]

In Italy, kids and young adults sit around smoking pot in the piazza's. Maybe it's the choice of 'social lubricant' involved?

 

[gunner]

Well, the question is why Brits do this? I saw a documentary "Who do you think you are" on TV, and this guys ancestor in the 1800s was killed in a drunken brawl he started. As the historian said, it was quite common problem in 1800s. 200 years later and it is still a problem.

But the kicker here is.. other countries nationals dont do this. So what is the difference that causes this problem among Brits but not so much if at all among Spaniards, Germans, Danes and so on?

We have terrible problems in ALL cities across the UK on a Friday and Saturday night. Like IC noted, its mainly drink/violence. When I was in Germany and went out for weekends around Europe, I never witnessed similar behaviour. What I'm noticing now, is the Russian and other Eastern Europeans are the 'drink until they drop' brigade. And they can't dress neither :lol: White socks with sandals have made their come back!

 

[gunner]

In Italy, kids and young adults sit around smoking pot in the piazza's. Maybe it's the choice of 'social lubricant' involved?

And drinking café latte

 

[Gaius46]

Isn't "drunk and fornicating" kind of what teens do?

 

[Andalublue]

The Spanish version seems so much more civilised though. Our kids just want a punch-up.

Oh, believe me, they happen, but perhaps the worst aspect of them is the gargantuan mess they leave behind. Spain's never had much of an anti-litter culture, so no one cleans up after themselves and the site of a major botellón is absolutely gross.

We have one here on the first Saturday of August for a fiesta called Nochevieja en Agosto (August New Year's Eve) when about 5-10,000 pack into our village of a year-round population of 800. After the NYE celebrations at midnight the whole thing turns into a botellón with improvised sound-systems set up, competing to blast one another off the road and carries on until well past dawn. No one within 2-3km will get a wink of sleep.

The village is pretty much trashed, smells of piss for a week and you have to be careful not to step in human excrement for weeks afterwards. It was fun to be a part of the first time you go, but the appeal soon fades. I now leave town for the weekend.

I'm also reliably informed that midsummer celebrations in most of Scandinavia are pretty messy, often violent affairs too. This sort of thing happens all over, when people lose their inhibitions for a while.

 

[Gardener]

That sure doesn't happen where I live. It's usually around 12 degrees at the beaches here with fog and the wind blowing like crazy. Not a happy time for the rampaging teens, what with the effect of the cold on the naughty bits not to mention the sand blowing into various crevasses in most irritating ways.

Plus, we are just more civilized here, you know.

 

[Andalublue]

It's usually around 12 degrees at the beaches here with fog and the wind blowing like crazy.

Troon usually won't see those kind of balmy temperatures till late-July. Didn't you clock the skin colours from the photo? Blue-trending-white.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Oh, believe me, they happen, but perhaps the worst aspect of them is the gargantuan mess they leave behind. Spain's never had much of an anti-litter culture, so no one cleans up after themselves and the site of a major botellón is absolutely gross.

We have one here on the first Saturday of August for a fiesta called Nochevieja en Agosto (August New Year's Eve) when about 5-10,000 pack into our village of a year-round population of 800. After the NYE celebrations at midnight the whole thing turns into a botellón with improvised sound-systems set up, competing to blast one another off the road and carries on until well past dawn. No one within 2-3km will get a wink of sleep.

The village is pretty much trashed, smells of piss for a week and you have to be careful not to step in human excrement for weeks afterwards. It was fun to be a part of the first time you go, but the appeal soon fades. I now leave town for the weekend.

So pleased to find this out before I abandoned my dream of living in central Portugal to swap it for Spain instead...

 

[sangha]

Isn't "drunk and fornicating" kind of what teens do?

No, not really

 

[Gaius46]

No, not really

Guess you had a deprived childhood

 

[Chagos]

Great. That means 5,500 less down here (Spain).

Enough local brand already and enough foreign additions too. Especially in high season on the coast. But on the botellónes the authorities have been cracking down the past years in my neck of the woods. They originated primarily with disco and bar prices becoming unaffordable to kids out of work.

They're actually not any danger usually, drunken Brit yobs, booze-deprived Swedes and Finn kids and Balneario Germans create more disruption.

Upside being that they're usually contained in spots easily avoided.

That Nochevieja de Agosto incidentally originated with a power cut that occurred in 1994 in the first August week. Not that Spaniards need any excuse to have a fiesta but one might as well. I know areas of Europe where, if such an event were commemorated at all, it would consist of farmers marching up to the electricity board's office to pelt it with cow dung.

 

[Chagos]

So pleased to find this out before I abandoned my dream of living in central Portugal to swap it for Spain instead...

Actually that sort of mess isn't a nation wide thing, at least not for days after the fiesta ends. Where everybody is a bit under the weather for the following day in villages near me, clean up is usually completed by the 2nd day.

Generally there's a trend to be seen of Spaniards becoming more ecology-minded. Far from perfect to be sure, yet improving.

 

[Andalublue]

So pleased to find this out before I abandoned my dream of living in central Portugal to swap it for Spain instead...

They happen in Portugal too.

 

[Andalublue]

That Nochevieja de Agosto incidentally originated with a power cut that occurred in 1994 in the first August week.

It did. They're very imaginative my neighbours, when it comes to inventing fiesta excuses.

 

[sangha]

Guess you had a deprived childhood

My teen years were 40 years ago.

Things have changed

 

[radioman]

Isn't "drunk and fornicating" kind of what teens do?

If they're lucky.......kinda like adults I guess..

 

[Manc Skipper]

Troon usually won't see those kind of balmy temperatures till late-July. Didn't you clock the skin colours from the photo? Blue-trending-white.

That's the natural skin tone of the Scot. It takes us several hours on a sunbed to go white. I was reading somewhere about a moody Scots redhead teen being refused at an airline checkin for looking too pale and ill!

You're too GINGER to fly: Teenage Scot has dream holiday ruined as check-in staff refuse to let her board flight - Daily Record