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Okay, now you're heading into sea lioning territory.OK so what exactly was your point in your first post?
Have a relaxing day.
Okay, now you're heading into sea lioning territory.OK so what exactly was your point in your first post?
Would you be so flippant if this was about another right, like voting? There is no reasonable excuse for this and example of why there should be a time limit on how long a background check should takeThat pesky pandemic! How rude of it to delay people their God-given right to purchase a gun!
I see that the MSN news feed algorithm is working quite well.
Flippant? That was sarcasm.Would you be so flippant if this was about another right, like voting? There is no reasonable excuse for this and example of why there should be a time limit on how long a background check should take
yet you were educated that this has been going on long before the pandemic. can you imagine if someone said that it was proper to delay abortions or gay marriage licenses for months due to the pandemic?Flippant? That was sarcasm.
The entire country's bureaucracy was slowed down by the pandemic. To waste people's time and money and litigate because gun permits are not moving along fast enough for your liking is the height of arrogance.
I got suppressor Form 4s approved quicker than these local yokels are processing simple gun permits. The time for a Form 4 didn't get impacted by Covid at all, and the processors at ATF all work in West Virginia.Flippant? That was sarcasm.
The entire country's bureaucracy was slowed down by the pandemic. To waste people's time and money and litigate because gun permits are not moving along fast enough for your liking is the height of arrogance.
"Flippant? That was sarcasm.
The entire country's bureaucracy was slowed down by the pandemic. To waste people's time and money and litigate because gun permits are not moving along fast enough for your liking is the height of arrogance.
In Ohio, there was a bit of a slow down when the panic was at its worst but nothing like this. why were other states able to cope? incompetence or a dislike of citizens exercising their rights.I got suppressor Form 4s approved quicker than these local yokels are processing simple gun permits. The time for a Form 4 didn't get impacted by Covid at all, and the processors at ATF all work in West Virginia.
I got Form 1s back in 20 days. NICS checks aren't taking a ridiculous amount of time, either.
There's no reason that a simple permit should take months. A NICS check can take as little as 5 minutes.
That mayor is POS. I bet if he or his family wanted a permit it would be ASAP. That sort of attitude should disbar the clown from ever holding public office"
In the suit, Orel Johnson alleges he went to the Hartford Police Department in June to apply for a municipal firearm permit. He claims officers directed him to put his name on a waiting list and that the police department would call him when it was ready to accept his application. Johnson claims he followed up on numerous occasions since but the department has yet to accept his application."
They won't even accept the application.
"Meanwhile, Shaquanna Williams claims applied for a permit with the New Haven Police Department in August. According to the suit, her documents were already completed and she had already paid to have her fingerprints taken.
She alleges in the suit that New Haven police "refused to take Williams' application" and instead gave her an appointment in March 2022. The suit said that by that time, her fingerprints will be stale, and will have to pay again for new fingerprints. "
"In talking about the CCDL, New Haven's Mayor Justin Elicker said, “This group has, in the past, opposed common sense gun safety legislation which enjoyed bipartisan support, such as Ethan’s Law, restricting untraceable ghost guns, and expanded background checks. My priorities are keeping our residents safe – not profiteering for gun retailers and manufacturers. Last week a fourteen-year-old boy was gunned down in our city, this is unconscionable.”"
"The third plaintiff is Anne Cordero, who alleges she has been trying to submit her application with the Bridgeport Police Department since 2020. The suit states that in June, Bridgeport police instructed her to sign up for an appointment to submit her application, but that the first available appointment would be late January 2022. "
Gun rights group's lawsuit claims four CT towns are holding up applications for firearm permits
CCDL and four plaintiffs cite examples of police departments in the cities holding up applications for municipal firearm permits.www.fox61.com
Laws are for thee, not for me.....silly unwashed masses.That mayor is POS. I bet if he or his family wanted a permit it would be ASAP. That sort of attitude should disbar the clown from ever holding public office
I have long advocated the followingLaws are for thee, not for me.....silly unwashed masses.
Four Connecticut police chiefs have been sued by a gun rights group and four citizens over "excessively delaying" applications for gun permits, the Associated Press reported.
The Connecticut Citizens Defense League (CCDL) announced it had filed a federal lawsuit against Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport and Waterbury police chiefs, saying they had purposefully slowed the licensing process and violated people's rights to bear arms and due process.
Holly Sullivan, president of the CCDL, released a statement alleging the cities were notorious for intentionally slowing the gun permit application process.
Applicants made to wait anywhere from 8 to 11 months for an appointment just to apply?
Blue State bureaucracy at work.Four Connecticut police chiefs have been sued by a gun rights group and four citizens over "excessively delaying" applications for gun permits, the Associated Press reported.
The Connecticut Citizens Defense League (CCDL) announced it had filed a federal lawsuit against Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport and Waterbury police chiefs, saying they had purposefully slowed the licensing process and violated people's rights to bear arms and due process.
Holly Sullivan, president of the CCDL, released a statement alleging the cities were notorious for intentionally slowing the gun permit application process.
Applicants made to wait anywhere from 8 to 11 months for an appointment just to apply?
At least until Peruda reaches SCOTUS.If CT is a "SHALL ISSUE" state then those groups will likely win their case.
Unfortunately California is a "MAY ISSUE" state, which is more accurately described as a "COLD DAY IN HELL BEFORE WE ISSUE" state, at least for Concealed Carry anyway.
though the results are mixed, some courts have held that may issue is an arbitrary and capricious standard and have stricken such laws down. I ultimately believe the USSC will hold that states cannot prevent lawful citizens from carrying firearms-either concealed, openly or perhaps both.If CT is a "SHALL ISSUE" state then those groups will likely win their case.
Unfortunately California is a "MAY ISSUE" state, which is more accurately described as a "COLD DAY IN HELL BEFORE WE ISSUE" state, at least for Concealed Carry anyway.
If there was not a backlog and delays prior to Covid you may have a point but that is not the case.Flippant? That was sarcasm.
The entire country's bureaucracy was slowed down by the pandemic. To waste people's time and money and litigate because gun permits are not moving along fast enough for your liking is the height of arrogance.
Well that sure as hell answers TD's question I guess. Sorta was wondering the same thing. Post #6 for inquiring minds JMB802.SUPPORT THE BLUE!
You're right. No obligation, but...The more they dance around answering, the more it says about their agenda.No one is ever under any obligation to respond to anything here but I think I am correct in suggesting your agenda
Would you care to lay out a speech option we could use so as not to hurt any feelings or suggest something that you may find inappropriate? For instance sometimes I say "anti gun people" rather than "anti gunner", not so much to spare someones feelings as it just comes out that way. But do suggest away though."Some anti gun folks". LOL, it appears the tendency towards personal insults and assumptions just can't be controlled.
I'd say if you're going westward stop in Idaho. DO NOT PASS Idaho do not collect $200.00 Oregon's going to hell.New England is just another example of how everything progressivism touches turns to shit. It's such a beautiful part of the country, but leftists ruined it. We're planning on moving to either the western side of VA or WV in a few years.
Who knows maybe it doesn't concern him, but if you threw in illegal immigration into the mix you mentioned he would probably go through the roof.yet you were educated that this has been going on long before the pandemic. can you imagine if someone said that it was proper to delay abortions or gay marriage licenses for months due to the pandemic?
I like how the Mayor says "not profiteering for gun retailers and manufacturers. Last week a fourteen-year-old boy was gunned down in our city, this is unconscionable". Was this a so called "ghost gun" since it was used in the same breath? Just a fourteen year old boy was gunned down and leaves it at that. No agenda there huh?"
In the suit, Orel Johnson alleges he went to the Hartford Police Department in June to apply for a municipal firearm permit. He claims officers directed him to put his name on a waiting list and that the police department would call him when it was ready to accept his application. Johnson claims he followed up on numerous occasions since but the department has yet to accept his application."
They won't even accept the application.
"Meanwhile, Shaquanna Williams claims applied for a permit with the New Haven Police Department in August. According to the suit, her documents were already completed and she had already paid to have her fingerprints taken.
She alleges in the suit that New Haven police "refused to take Williams' application" and instead gave her an appointment in March 2022. The suit said that by that time, her fingerprints will be stale, and will have to pay again for new fingerprints. "
"In talking about the CCDL, New Haven's Mayor Justin Elicker said, “This group has, in the past, opposed common sense gun safety legislation which enjoyed bipartisan support, such as Ethan’s Law, restricting untraceable ghost guns, and expanded background checks. My priorities are keeping our residents safe – not profiteering for gun retailers and manufacturers. Last week a fourteen-year-old boy was gunned down in our city, this is unconscionable.”"
"The third plaintiff is Anne Cordero, who alleges she has been trying to submit her application with the Bridgeport Police Department since 2020. The suit states that in June, Bridgeport police instructed her to sign up for an appointment to submit her application, but that the first available appointment would be late January 2022. "
Gun rights group's lawsuit claims four CT towns are holding up applications for firearm permits
CCDL and four plaintiffs cite examples of police departments in the cities holding up applications for municipal firearm permits.www.fox61.com
Two unsourced anecdotes are not an "education".yet you were educated that this has been going on long before the pandemic. can you imagine if someone said that it was proper to delay abortions or gay marriage licenses for months due to the pandemic?
Here's the rub. We don't actually care if you accept the premise.Two unsourced anecdotes are not an "education".
got to love someone thinking citizens-trying to exercise their proper constitutional rights-are wasting the time of bureaucrats. That sort of thinking wants to make me puke.Here's the rub. We don't actually care if you accept the premise.
The premise that two anecdotes prove your theories? Of course, I'm not accepting that.Here's the rub. We don't actually care if you accept the premise.