30 Democrats in Puerto Rico with 109 lobbyists for weekend despite shutdown

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

Some 30 Democratic lawmakers left the government shutdown behind Friday on a chartered flight to Puerto Rico for a winter retreat with 109 lobbyists and corporate executives during which they planned to see the hit Broadway show “Hamilton” and attend three parties including one with the show’s cast.

snip

Some 109 lobbyists and corporate executives are named in the memo, a rate of 3.6 lobbyists for every member. They include those from several big K Street firms, R.J. Reynolds, Facebook, Comcast, Amazon, PhRMA, Microsoft, Intel, Verizon, and unions like the National Education Association.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...th-109-lobbyists-for-weekend-despite-shutdown

Meanwhile.....

"In several tweets Saturday morning, Trump said that he was waiting at the White House for Democrats to make a deal that would both end the government shutdown and allocate money to construct a physical barrier at the southern border.

“Democrats should come back to Washington and work to end the Shutdown, while at the same time ending the horrible humanitarian crisis at our Southern Border,” Trump tweeted. “I am in the White House waiting for you!”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...hite-house-to-make-wall-deal-and-end-shutdown

Ok liberals, you proud of these optics? Still think that Democrats don't have responsibility in this shutdown lasting this long? The very base nature of politicians sunning their fat asses, and lining their pockets in PR, while back home there are issues that need their attention is bad enough, but when you throw in how liberals have hung crap like this around Republican's necks for years, and they don't care makes it just plain obvious...These people don't give a crap about American's....They only care about themselves.

Samhain · Jan 14, 2019

Professional politicians gotta politic

Cardinal · Jan 14, 2019

j-mac said:
Meanwhile.....

Ok liberals, you proud of these optics? Still think that Democrats don't have responsibility in this shutdown lasting this long? The very base nature of politicians sunning their fat asses, and lining their pockets in PR, while back home there are issues that need their attention is bad enough, but when you throw in how liberals have hung crap like this around Republican's necks for years, and they don't care makes it just plain obvious...These people don't give a crap about American's....They only care about themselves.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Yes? And? What has Trump offered as a compromise to Democrats?

MrWonka · Jan 14, 2019

j-mac said:
Ok liberals, you proud of these optics?

Yes, I'm fine with it actually Puerto Rico is still hurting badly from the hurricane from a year ago and out disgusting President is trying to use the money that was specifically set aside to help Puerto Rico to build an idiotic wall that we don't need or want. At least the money raised from the tourism of all these people will benefit the territory.

j-mac said:
Still, think that Democrats don't have a responsibility in this shutdown lasting this long?

Yes, the Democrats have already passed multiple bills in the House which would open the government, and there is absolutely nothing that Republican's could or would offer them to make them change their minds. Republicans are the ones who want to change things despite clearly not having the votes to do so. It is therefore 100% their fault that the government is not up and running.

Anthony60 · Jan 14, 2019

j-mac said:
Meanwhile.....

Ok liberals, you proud of these optics? Still think that Democrats don't have responsibility in this shutdown lasting this long? The very base nature of politicians sunning their fat asses, and lining their pockets in PR, while back home there are issues that need their attention is bad enough, but when you throw in how liberals have hung crap like this around Republican's necks for years, and they don't care makes it just plain obvious...These people don't give a crap about American's....They only care about themselves.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Not surprised.

OrphanSlug · Jan 14, 2019

... and the issue is what?

apdst · Jan 14, 2019

Cardinal said:
Yes? And? What has Trump offered as a compromise to Democrats?

Whataboutism

beefheart · Jan 14, 2019

j-mac said:
Meanwhile.....

Ok liberals, you proud of these optics? Still think that Democrats don't have responsibility in this shutdown lasting this long? The very base nature of politicians sunning their fat asses, and lining their pockets in PR, while back home there are issues that need their attention is bad enough, but when you throw in how liberals have hung crap like this around Republican's necks for years, and they don't care makes it just plain obvious...These people don't give a crap about American's....They only care about themselves.[/FONT][/COLOR]

So what?

Would you be as outraged if they went to Stuebeville Ohio over the weekend? Puerto Rico is part of America, you did know that didn't you?

Samhain · Jan 14, 2019

beefheart said:
So what?

Would you be as outraged if they went to Stuebeville Ohio over the weekend? Puerto Rico is part of America, you did know that didn't you?

They probably would never have gotten back to Washington if they went to Stuebenville.

DaveFagan · Jan 14, 2019

j-mac said:
Meanwhile.....

Ok liberals, you proud of these optics? Still think that Democrats don't have responsibility in this shutdown lasting this long? The very base nature of politicians sunning their fat asses, and lining their pockets in PR, while back home there are issues that need their attention is bad enough, but when you throw in how liberals have hung crap like this around Republican's necks for years, and they don't care makes it just plain obvious...These people don't give a crap about American's....They only care about themselves.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Admittedly, the Dems are in Puerto Rico arranging their bribes, I mean, campaign contributions, etc. There's nothing going on in Washington. Thier choice is PR or give Trump his wall and they already stated, many times, they're not funding the Wall. Trump's position is No Compromise so why would they be needed in Washington? Trump is waiting to make himself sound like a big hero when he finally relents and gets Fed paychecks flowing again. Trump's the bottleneck and the reason those employees are not being paid. There is no way out for him to save face, so he punishes everybody due to Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
/

Xelor · Jan 14, 2019

30 Democrats in Puerto Rico with 109 lobbyists for weekend despite shutdown

I'm sure there were, last weekend, more than 30 Democrats in Puerto Rico, regardless of how many lobbyists were there too.

MrPeanut · Jan 14, 2019

Is McConnell ready to put on his big boy pants yet? I'm sure they have cell phones.

KevinKohler · Jan 14, 2019

beefheart said:
So what?

Would you be as outraged if they went to Stuebeville Ohio over the weekend? Puerto Rico is part of America, you did know that didn't you?

So is Hawaii.

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

Cardinal said:
Yes? And? What has Trump offered as a compromise to Democrats?

Plenty....He's gone from $25 billion to $5.6 billion. He's moved from a concrete wall covering the entire border to 235 miles of Steel bollard fencing. He's offered to take a look at issues like dreamers, and the TPS programs....Plus, he is the one staying in DC waiting on a call, or visit to settle this issue rather than sunning, and lining their pockets like Democrats are in PR....

What has your side offered?

Cardinal · Jan 14, 2019

j-mac said:
Plenty....He's gone from $25 billion to $5.6 billion. He's moved from a concrete wall covering the entire border to 235 miles of Steel bollard fencing. He's offered to take a look at issues like dreamers, and the TPS programs....Plus, he is the one staying in DC waiting on a call, or visit to settle this issue rather than sunning, and lining their pockets like Democrats are in PR....

What has your side offered?

Um...no. The $5.6 billion was his beginning demand. The $25 billion figure you're referring to is what Democrats offered to him in February of last year. What compromise has he offered since the beginning of this shutdown? Keep in mind that a wall of any kind is not a compromise.

Edit: is he "looking" at dreamers? That's so very nice of him to do.

year2late · Jan 14, 2019

j-mac said:
Meanwhile.....

Ok liberals, you proud of these optics? Still think that Democrats don't have responsibility in this shutdown lasting this long? The very base nature of politicians sunning their fat asses, and lining their pockets in PR, while back home there are issues that need their attention is bad enough, but when you throw in how liberals have hung crap like this around Republican's necks for years, and they don't care makes it just plain obvious...These people don't give a crap about American's....They only care about themselves.[/FONT][/COLOR]

How awful. They attended a benefit meant to raise funds for the arts in Puerto Rico...last time I checked was part of the US. Hopefully while big wigs attended they were spending big ass bucks to support the community. They could use it.

It was nice that they also offered $10 tix to the locals.eace

And politicians being in the presence of lobbyists? Call 911!

prometeus · Jan 14, 2019

j-mac said:
Plenty...

Why lie?

He's gone from $25 billion to $5.6 billion.

25 was never part of this. why lie again?

He's moved from a concrete wall covering the entire border to 235 miles of Steel bollard fencing.

Can you cite a source for that?

He's offered to take a look at issues like dreamers

Looking? Is that what you call compromise?

BTW, is there something illegal about what what you cite in the OP?

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

MrWonka said:
Yes, I'm fine with it actually Puerto Rico is still hurting badly from the hurricane from a year ago and out disgusting President is trying to use the money that was specifically set aside to help Puerto Rico to build an idiotic wall that we don't need or want. At least the money raised from the tourism of all these people will benefit the territory.

Really? You're ok with it? Wow....Good, then I never want to see you denigrating Republican's for dealing with lobbyists, in the wake of this....We know you won't be that honest though...I hold out hope. But, if you were seriously caring for the people of PR then you would have been on your Senators to pass the bill that came over from the house in December that had funding for disaster relief, as well as the $5.6 billion for border security...Clearly you don't care about those people.

Yes, the Democrats have already passed multiple bills in the House which would open the government, and there is absolutely nothing that Republican's could or would offer them to make them change their minds. Republicans are the ones who want to change things despite clearly not having the votes to do so. It is therefore 100% their fault that the government is not up and running.

Yes, Democrats passed a bunch of show votes they knew were DOA....But, I find it delicious that you whine in here about "not having the votes", but your side of the isle are the ones running around bleating "you guys had control of all three branches..." Talk to the hand buddy.

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

beefheart said:
So what?

Would you be as outraged if they went to Stuebeville Ohio over the weekend? Puerto Rico is part of America, you did know that didn't you?

Where did I say it wasn't...What a dumb post.

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

DaveFagan said:
Admittedly, the Dems are in Puerto Rico arranging their bribes, I mean, campaign contributions, etc. There's nothing going on in Washington. Thier choice is PR or give Trump his wall and they already stated, many times, they're not funding the Wall. Trump's position is No Compromise so why would they be needed in Washington? Trump is waiting to make himself sound like a big hero when he finally relents and gets Fed paychecks flowing again. Trump's the bottleneck and the reason those employees are not being paid. There is no way out for him to save face, so he punishes everybody due to Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
/

Sorry Dave....Big fail....I am sure we have heard from you that this sort of blatant "bribe taking" is wrong, and at least it is good to see that in some small part we agree on that...BUT, when the President has publicly stated that he is willing to compromise, and in fact has moved from some of his original positions on this, but democrats won't budge one iota? That is not on the President, that is on Democrats....

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

Cardinal said:
Um...no. The $5.6 billion was his beginning demand. The $25 billion figure you're referring to is what Democrats offered to him in February of last year. What compromise has he offered since the beginning of this shutdown? Keep in mind that a wall of any kind is not a compromise.

Edit: is he "looking" at dreamers? That's so very nice of him to do.

He offered you people 1.8 million illegals given a pathway....And yes, the $25 billion was there, but it was a disingenuous offer by Democrats, as in last minute, or final deal, they slid in Chain migration, and Visa lottery immigration knowing full well that would blow up the deal....Don't give me this dishonest crap that they offered the $25 billion, when you know that is only part of the story....

So, regardless of that, he has indeed moved from $25 billion to $5.6 billion...That is a fact.

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

year2late said:
How awful. They attended a benefit meant to raise funds for the arts in Puerto Rico...last time I checked was part of the US. Hopefully while big wigs attended they were spending big ass bucks to support the community. They could use it.

It was nice that they also offered $10 tix to the locals.eace

And politicians being in the presence of lobbyists? Call 911!

Yep, you have no problem sucking up to lobbyists as long as it's Democrats right? If this were Republican's doing this, you'd be in here beating them over the head with it, and you know it.

Obscurity · Jan 14, 2019

Get back to me when the GOP offers something of real value, like federally legalizing cannabis or something of worth to the american people, instead of claiming he offered anything... at all.

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

prometeus said:
Why lie?

With an opening like this, your crap deserves nothing....

j-mac · Jan 14, 2019

Obscurity said:
Get back to me when the GOP offers something of real value, like federally legalizing cannabis or something of worth to the american people, instead of claiming he offered anything... at all.

LOL...Say what? Make Pot legal and you'll give up some barrier fencing? Wow....Put the bong down dude...lol

30 Democrats in Puerto Rico with 109 lobbyists for weekend despite shutdown

j-mac

Samhain

Cardinal

Respected On All Sides

MrWonka

Anthony60

OrphanSlug

A sinister place...

apdst

beefheart

Ice Cream for Crow?

Samhain

DaveFagan

Iconoclast

Xelor

MrPeanut

KevinKohler

j-mac

Cardinal

Respected On All Sides

year2late

IIJAFM

prometeus

j-mac

j-mac

j-mac

j-mac

j-mac

Obscurity

j-mac

j-mac

30 Democrats in Puerto Rico with 109 lobbyists for weekend despite shutdown

Respected On All Sides

A sinister place...

Ice Cream for Crow?

Iconoclast

Respected On All Sides

IIJAFM

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency