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Socialism is the workers control over the means of production. So no, no dem is pushing for that. Progressive taxation, social programs,stimulus spending, does not make socialism. Until you have workers control of the means of production you do not have socialism. That is the very definition of socialism, that is where it must begin and then you can spread out to other things, but you must have workers control first..
The constitutionn doesn't say anything about assult rifles either.. Why do conservatives want them?? If we read the constitution like the bible, the most likely nothing would get done.. The arguement that it isn't in the constitution is just stupid!! Abortion isn't in the bible.. Global warming isn't in the bible?? Why is it that christians don't believe in global warming and are against abortion??
No dem is pushing for socialism? LOL, that is like saying none of the gun restrictionist groups are pushing for bans
that is less than I pay in quarterly income tax payments. I pay over 300K in federal income taxes. what the hell do I get for that that you don't get? tax breaks mean I pay less taxes yet we in the top 1 percent pay 40% of the income taxes
WE HAVE THE GREATEST Discrepancy between our share of the income (22%) and our share of the taxes (39%) meaning a 17% gap which is not only far higher than any other group in the USA its also the highest in the first world
I guess you couldn't read well enough to see that I didn't say that. I said it would be AKIN to saying
akin is not the same as saying it
learn to read
that's rather stupid but who is your leader-the indolent middle class-those who think that the rich owe them more and more government and less and less taxes?
do bill gates and Steve Jobs get any more benefits than someone who has an income of 106,000? bill gates pays the same for a license plate as a guy making 25K
guess what-they both get the same exact value
do you think Steve jobs should pay 40 bucks for a hunting license like everyone else or 40000 because that is the same percentage of his income as a say a union machinist does when he pays 40
Because everybody deserves a new car? Because everybody deserves to have their irresponsibility rewarded by someone paying off their credit card debt? Because the entitlement attitude in America isn't severe enough? Because to some warped viewpoints, theft from people is deemed ok as long as it's for "the greater good."
getting richer because you provide value or have services others want is not artificial
the government taking your wealth and giving it to others to buy their votes sucks
If only those who paid net taxes could vote do you think the dems would push for so much welfare socialism? OF COURSE NOT
firefighters and police are mainly paid by property taxes and other state taxes.
half the federal workers are engaged in activities that congress was not properly charged with under the constitution.
No dem is pushing for socialism? LOL, that is like saying none of the gun restrictionist groups are pushing for bans
what silly psychobabble. The rich don't get richer because of tax cuts. the rich would be even richer if it wasn't for income taxes and especially the death taxes
that is like saying people have more property when criminals steal less.
the rich get richer because investing income makes income and the rich don't have to spend all their money on taxes and necessities
socialism is a disease. its a disease that causes people to not understand basic economic realities
How very communist of you. The constitution is there as a guideline for what the government CAN DO. Dear God. I have no words for this type of ignorance.
gee that is silly, the constitution mentions ARMS and an assault rifle is a small arm
dismissed as a complete fail
I realize that the constitution as properly interpreted is a bulwark against the welfare socialist nonsense you crave. I want assault rifles so if people like you take over the government and abolish our constitutional rights people like me can overthrow it
How very ignorant of you. The constitution serves several purposes.
I never said it didn't. Nice of you to put words in my mouth.
The constitution is there as a guideline for what the government CAN DO
No. No. No. No.
But that's a nice set of strawmen you've got there. No crows in your cornfield
Sure you did. Here's what you said
The WHOLE post is a strawman.
And that is not false.
Yes, it is false
Yes, you're entire post was a straw man. That's what I said
Yes, it is false
No, actually, it isn't.
You will grasp at anything, won't you? The whole THREAD is a strawman.
Arguing with you is useless, dismissed.
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