11 Things The Wealthiest 400 Americans Could Buy Their Country

[sangha]

The insane accusatiion is that someone else should pay for what you want or need. Is that how you were raised?

"Inane", not "insane"

ANd here is what YOU said

Why don't you just get it over with and take all the income from the rich?

 

[ecofarm]

He said "those seeking wealth" with no other qualifications.

Precisely.

 

[sangha]

Wrong, you have no idea what the 65 million americans who don't pay taxes have in total assets. The evil 400 mentioned doesn't have all their assets in cash, it is total holdings.

Now, you're moving the goal posts. You originally asked about the INCOME of the 65million, here:

How do you know that? You hav no idea what those 65 million make but better think again. I support the flat tax as well but more importantly a major downsizing in the Federal Govt.

After that FAIL, you've changed to asking about the WEALTH of those 65million. If you're not going to stand up for your own argument (and examples), why would anyone take those arguments seriously.

 

[sangha]

Ronald Reagan on the dangers of not raising the debt ceiling ~

That pinko commie!! Time to throw him under the bus along with the other RINOs

 

[sangha]

Freedom is slavery, death is life. Amazing stuff.

Yes, the right wing is umm, "amazing"

The rightwingers do not want the middle class to be free to like, or the rich to pay their fair share. That's a double-standard the rights' weak position can't resolve. If the right gets to say "flat tax", the left can say "progressive taxes". But, as we've seen before, the right doesn't want to hear the other side. Nice system of ethics, authoritarian, anti-freedom, and oblivious to boot.

So then why did you reply with this?

If you're having a problem following the thread, it's not my job to explain it to you.

Replying to you, then having you claim it was a topic change when you introduced it, is inappropriate.

No, my quote was not in response to any claim that fraud caused the mortgage crisis. I was responding to a different point.

 

[Conservative]

"Inane", not "insane"

ANd here is what YOU said

I have seen no indication that isn't what you want. Why is that chart even relevant if that isn't what you wanted?

 

[sangha]

Why go back to Reagan,

Why not?

what did Obama say about raising the Debt ceiling in 2006? Do you realize the current debt is close to our yearly GDP? Obama has added 4 trillion in three years and liberals want to blame Reagan how added 1.7 trillion in 8? Guess it depends on who does the spending and on what, right? National defense really bothers liberals.

No, most of the 4trillion was due to legislation passed under bush* by the republican congress. It's not Obamas' fault that the repubs loaded our budget with TARP, Medicare D, the HSA, the TSA, two wars, and a swollen military.

 

[Catawba]

If it's so dangerous to let slide, I'd use it as a lever to get reform in other areas if I were a politician.
And I'd, you know, stop spending so much next time.

So you think we would have better leverage in an economic Depression????

 

[sangha]

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I have seen no indication that isn't what you want. Why is that chart even relevant if that isn't what you wanted?

If you can't understand the FAIL in thinking that I beleive something I never said, I'm not going to explain it to you.

And I have already posted the reason why this chart was composed. It had nothing to do with confiscating their wealth.

 

[Conservative]

Why not?



No, most of the 4trillion was due to legislation passed under bush* by the republican congress. It's not Obamas' fault that the repubs loaded our budget with TARP, Medicare D, the HSA, the TSA, two wars, and a swollen military.

Because there is more current history that liberals want to ignore. Just like the so called recession that Clinton inherited, you were wrong then and you are wrong now. Budgets are yearly and Obama could have cut anything he wanted but didn't, instead he put Bush spending on steroids. You really need to get over your partisan, biased rants and get the facts.

 

[sangha]

So you think we would have better leverage in an economic Depression????

The rightwing thinks they'd do better in 2012 in an economic depression. They run on a platform that includes the idea that govt doesn't work, and they do their best to prove it whenever they win office

 

[sangha]

Because there is more current history that liberals want to ignore. Just like the so called recession that Clinton inherited, you were wrong then and you are wrong now. Budgets are yearly and Obama could have cut anything he wanted but didn't, instead he put Bush spending on steroids. You really need to get over your partisan, biased rants and get the facts.

You mean like the way rightwingers ignore how much of the debt accumulated under Obama is due to republican programs like TARP, Medicare D, HSA, TSA, and the bloated Farm, Energy, and Transportation bills?

 

[Catawba]

Why go back to Reagan, what did Obama say about raising the Debt ceiling in 2006? Do you realize the current debt is close to our yearly GDP? Obama has added 4 trillion in three years and liberals want to blame Reagan how added 1.7 trillion in 8? Guess it depends on who does the spending and on what, right? National defense really bothers liberals.

Obama admits his opposition as a naive Senator to raising the debt ceiling was a mistake. As President, he learned about the severe consequences of not raising the debt ceiling. How about you? Do you think Reagan was wrong about the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling?

 

[Conservative]

The rightwing thinks they'd do better in 2012 in an economic depression. They run on a platform that includes the idea that govt doesn't work, and they do their best to prove it whenever they win office

An economic depression to a liberal is not getting that IPAD or latest cellphone that they wanted. There was no economic depression that Obama prevented and no one can prove differently. Liberals have bought into the idea that a large central govt. providing everything the people WANT is what is necessary even though that ideology has failed everywhere else in the world. Liberal arrogance however says things will be different this time.

 

[1Perry]

You mean like the way rightwingers ignore how much of the debt accumulated under Obama is due to republican programs like TARP, Medicare D, HSA, TSA, and the bloated Farm, Energy, and Transportation bills?

Part of it is. Part of it. Most if not all of that stuff is things Obama supported though.

 

[Conservative]

Obama admits his opposition as a naive Senator to raising the debt ceiling was a mistake. As President, he learned about the severe consequences of not raising the debt ceiling. How about you? Do you think Reagan was wrong about the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling?

Obama was naive as a Senator and naive as a President, that plus he is incompetent as the results show. Obama only admitted it was a mistake today now that he faced the same problem Bush did but the problem is Obama created this debt crisis with massive spending and out of control expansion of the govt. and govt. services.

 

[Catawba]

Because there is more current history that liberals want to ignore. Just like the so called recession that Clinton inherited, you were wrong then and you are wrong now. Budgets are yearly and Obama could have cut anything he wanted but didn't, instead he put Bush spending on steroids. You really need to get over your partisan, biased rants and get the facts.

You didn't address his point here, you just changed the subject. Are you unable to address his point?

 

[Conservative]

Part of it is. Part of it. Most if not all of that stuff is things Obama supported though.

TARP was repaid, Medicare Part D is less than Democrats wanted. What has Obama done to reform HSA, TSA, and the bloated Farm, Energy, and Transportation bills which by the way are a drop in the bucket. You are showing how little you really know and how wrong you are

 

[Conservative]

You didn't address his point here, you just changed the subject. Are you unable to address his point?

I have addressed the point, Obama has added 4 trillion to the debt requiring an increase in the debt ceiling. Interesting that he voted against it in 2006. Out of control Obama spending is the issue.

 

[sangha]

An economic depression to a liberal is not getting that IPAD or latest cellphone that they wanted. There was no economic depression that Obama prevented and no one can prove differently. Liberals have bought into the idea that a large central govt. providing everything the people WANT is what is necessary even though that ideology has failed everywhere else in the world. Liberal arrogance however says things will be different this time.

An economic depression to a rightwinger is not getting a tax cut. There was an economic recession that bush* and the republicans created and no one can prove differently. Rightwingers have bought into the idea that any govt. providing anything the people WANT is what is evil even though that ideology has failed everywhere else in the world. Rightwing arrogance however says things will be different this time

 

[sangha]

Part of it is. Part of it. Most if not all of that stuff is things Obama supported though.

No he didn't support most of it and he certainly didn't pass it on his own as a Senator. Obama wasn't even a senator when most of those were passed.

 

[Catawba]

Obama was naive as a Senator and naive as a President, that plus he is incompetent as the results show. Obama only admitted it was a mistake today now that he faced the same problem Bush did but the problem is Obama created this debt crisis with massive spending and out of control expansion of the govt. and govt. services.

Do you read the post your are responding to before you post again?

The question was, "How about you? Do you think Reagan was wrong about the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling?"

 

[Conservative]

An economic depression to a rightwinger is not getting a tax cut. There was an economic recession that bush* and the republicans created and no one can prove differently. Rightwingers have bought into the idea that any govt. providing anything the people WANT is what is evil even though that ideology has failed everywhere else in the world. Rightwing arrogance however says things will be different this time

You mean keeping more of what you earn? Amazing that we have problem who have a problem with that concept and believe it is the role of the govt. to redistribute that money. Sad that there are people like you who feel that way.

 

[sangha]

Obama was naive as a Senator and naive as a President, that plus he is incompetent as the results show. Obama only admitted it was a mistake today now that he faced the same problem Bush did but the problem is Obama created this debt crisis with massive spending and out of control expansion of the govt. and govt. services.

And bush* was a disaster as both a Gov and as a President, that plus he is incompetent as the results show. Republicans only admitted that there out-of-control spending was a mistake until AFTER they lost the White House, but the problem is Reagan, GHWB, and bush*, along with their republican minions, created this debt crisis with massive spending and out of control expansion of the govt. and govt. services.

 

[Conservative]

Do you read the post your are responding to before you post again?

The question was, "How about you? Do you think Reagan was wrong about the consequences of not raising the debt ceiling?"

Raising the debt ceiling was part of a Reagan compromise which led to some of his NON income tax increases in taxes, cut $3 in spending for every dollar of tax cuts. Guess what? democrats increased the taxes but never cut spending. that is the way liberals work. You must be so proud.