10 American Pastors with Private Jets – ‘It’s what Jesus would do’

[Mach]

Wasn't their wealth largely created tax-free?

I mean, grifters gonna grift...but they should be taxed for all the roads and infrastructure and shitty education we provide them and their flock.

 

[BirdinHand]

What did I say? I said I paid for the food myself. Your fantasy world doesn't butt up with real life. If I was to imitate your LWNJ screed I'd say " you hate the poor".

I’m doing something correct.

Both the left and right dislike me.

Partisans rarely realize how similar other partisans they are. Even those they think they’re SO different from.

 

[Threegoofs]

Well, you're not going to find any Democrats in church, they're afraid the roof will cave in.

 

[it's just me]

Not really, but the difference is minor. We're thinking along the same lines.

"The" source means the only source.
"A" source means one of many sources.

Loving money is not the only source of evil, there are others (e.g. lust, envy, hatred, etc. etc.) - that was my only point.

Very well, I'll let you have that one.

 

[Davin]

These are word/faith people for the most part. Any resemblance to Christianity is purely coincidental.

My Archbishop flies in coach, even when he flies overseas.

They represent your faith. These are your people.

 

[Davin]

I agree - almost. It is "a" root, not "the" root. Iow, one of many roots of evil.

For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith... I Tim 6:10

And these guys absolutely LOVE their money.

And yet, you and your faith do nothing about it. You don't bring it to people's attention and you don't try to ACTUALLY fight it. You are complacent.

 

[Davin]

You could, but it wouldn't be true.

So mega churches conning people out of money in your faith's name is not your concern? Yep you are complacent in their evil doings.

 

[it's just me]

They represent your faith. These are your people.

They don't represent MY faith. You need to work on your critical thinking skillls.

 

[EdwinWillers]

Very well, I'll let you have that one.

It really is a minor point - and I got a little anal about it. My bad.

 

[Lisa]

Just had too drag politics into it, didn't you?

It seems that facts are a problem for you. Republican voters and those who get fleeced by Donald Trump are also very likely to be evangelicals. Differentiating facts from beliefs is a problem for this demographic.

Similar to past elections, religion played an important role in the 2020 U.S. presidential contest: Republican candidate Donald Trump continued to garner strong support from White evangelical Protestants, while Black Protestants and the religiously unaffiliated backed the Democratic candidate and eventual winner, President Joe Biden.




But religious identity alone does not tell the whole story. Among White Americans, worship service attendance remains highly correlated with presidential vote choice, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of 2020 validated voters.


As in previous years, voters who frequently go to religious services – defined as those who attend at least monthly – were more likely to vote for the Republican candidate in the most recent presidential election, while less frequent attenders were more likely to back the Democrat.

Most White Americans who regularly attend worship services voted for Trump in 2020

Among White Americans, worship service attendance remains highly correlated with presidential vote choice.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Davin]

They don't represent MY faith. You need to work on your critical thinking skillls.

Nope they are your faith, this is why religion shouldn't be allowed to rule. you can't even police your own.

 

[it's just me]

Nope they are your faith, this is why religion shouldn't be allowed to rule. you can't even police your own.

That's a bald faced lie. That's why people like you shouldn't be allowed to have the reins of government.

 

[Davin]

That's a bald faced lie. That's why people like you shouldn't be allowed to have the reins of government.

Really? What are you doing to police your own? NOTHING, you let them get away with anything and you do NOTHING. You are untrustworthy to do anything. Your religion should NEVER be allowed to govern.

 

[it's just me]

Really? What are you doing to police your own? NOTHING, you let them get away with anything and you do NOTHING. You are untrustworthy to do anything. Your religion should NEVER be allowed to govern.

How many times do I have to tell you? Those are not my people. If you can't handle them you're weaker than I thought.

 

[Davin]

How many times do I have to tell you? Those are not my people. If you can't handle them you're weaker than I thought.

They are and you do NOTHING. Sad that you do nothing to stop or speak against them. You are no better than they are. You follow Satan and anything coming from you is a lie.

 

[Daisy]

 

[Logician Man]

Well, you're not going to find any Democrats in church, they're afraid the roof will cave in.

If that^ is true, one can safely, and logically, deduce that any/all sexual molestations perpetrated upon minor children in "churches", are NOT perpetrated by "any Democrats." (Liberals ) Think about that for a while, and the ramifications of what else one can logically deduce from your positive claim you put forth in your above post.

 

[Hamish Howl]

The Laras aren't doing this anymore.

Human remains found after plane crashes into Tennessee lake; all on board, including diet guru Gwen Lara, presumed dead

Diet guru Gwen Lara and her husband were among 7 people aboard a plane that crashed into a lake; authorities said there appeared to be no survivors.

www.usatoday.com

 

[devildavid]

What did I say? I said I paid for the food myself. Your fantasy world doesn't butt up with real life. If I was to imitate your LWNJ screed I'd say " you hate the poor".

Your personal anecdotes do not equate with real life.

 

[devildavid]

Well, you're not going to find any Democrats in church, they're afraid the roof will cave in.

Why do you morally condemn all who identify as Democrats but leave out Republicans? You have a religious viewpoint corrupted by your political viewpoint.

 

[PoS]

But, weekend after weekend, you’ll see the faithful turn up to their mega churches, many of whom probably work more than one job, being paid peanuts, still giving money to these worthless assholes… Whilst also voting for republicans politicians who promise to make their situations even worse.

You can’t fix stupid.

Especially with Evangelicals.

Im a Ramenite, but I dont see anything wrong with what these pastors are doing. Its their flock who's giving them the money, so it doesnt affect me- therefore no reason to be upset about it.

 

[devildavid]

You could, but it wouldn't be true.

It is true, but you refuse to admit it.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Im a Ramenite, but I dont see anything wrong with what these pastors are doing. Its their flock who's giving them the money, so it doesnt affect me- therefore no reason to be upset about it.

Pointing out stupid people isn’t “being upset”.

But considering these are many of the same people who election after election vote, to make their lives and almost everyone else’s worse…

Well that does warrant being upset a bit…

 

[Rumpel]

@ mega churches

In 2005, Baptist Pastor Al Sharpton criticized megachurches for focusing on "bedroom morals", statements against same-sex marriage and abortion, by ignoring issues of social justice, such as the immorality of war and the erosion of affirmative action.[26] Some megachurches have similarly been criticized for stating they are inclusive while maintaining a strong stance against gay marriage and do not allow sexually active gay members to fully participate in the church.[27] [28]

In 2018, American professor Scot McKnight of Northern Baptist Theological Seminary criticized nondenominational megachurches for the weak external accountability relationship of their leaders, by not being members of a Christian denomination, further exposing them to abuse of power.[29] However, a study by the Hartford Institute for Religion Research published in 2020 found that 60% of American megachurches were members of a Christian denomination.[30]

Some megachurches and their pastors have been accused by critics of promoting a "prosperity gospel", where the poor and vulnerable are encouraged to donate their money to the church rather than saving it, in the hopes that God will bless them with wealth.

Megachurch - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[NotreDame]

9 American Pastors with Private Jets - 'It's what Jesus would do' - Aero Corner

Matthew 19:24 famously says, “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” – but they never said anything about private jets, right? In Les Misérables, Victor Hugo imagines his Bishop of Digne as…

aerocorner.com

Matthew 19:24 famously says “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” – but they never said anything about private jets, right?

Table of Contents

• 1. Kenneth Copeland: Gulfstream V
• 2. Jesse Duplantis: Dassault Falcon 7X
• 3. Jerry Savelle: Cessna 500
• 4. Joyce Meyer: Gulfstream IV
• 5. Creflo A. Dollar: Gulfstream III
• 6. Joel Osteen: Airbus A319
• 7. Paul and Jan Crouch: Bombardier BD-700-1A10
• 8. Paul and Jan Crouch: Hawker 800XP
• 9. Pat Robertson: Learjet 35
• 10. Mark Barclay: Cessna Citation III
• =====================================================

This might be dated but it is a continuation of my post in SE about supposedly religious 'pastors' being con men & charlatans. Each of these planes cost their 'flocks' over a $1M each.

I think Copeland has 3 jets. Shame on him.

And what ethical or moral rule are invoking to say “shame on them?”

The Bible verse from Matthew is a commentary of rich people love their riches so much it is difficult for them to love God more. So, the Matthew verse doesn’t per se permit a “shame on them” notion.