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Yet Another Reason To Love Liz Cheney (4 Viewers)

....... and just like that, leftists love Haliburton.

Today, we are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
 
Trump isn't a Republican or a Conservative.
And yet Republicans and conservatives— hell, Americans in general— have yet to shown any sign that innocent people being tortured is something they register as a bad thing
 
I don't love Liz Cheney.

I don't even like her.

We just share some enemies.
Idk, the Democrats seem to be going all in on the “actually, the neocons were true patriots” narrative, as moronic as that is.
 
You don't have to

No need for that

The girl has something that many MAGAs, esp the guys, don't have.
A willingness to excuse and defend the torture of innocent civilians?

Nah, I’d said MAGA would be okay with that as well.
 
And yet Republicans and conservatives— hell, Americans in general— have yet to shown any sign that innocent people being tortured is something they register as a bad thing
I don't get what you are on about.
 
I don't get what you are on about.
Liz Cheney vocally supports the torture of prisoners.

She vocally supports Bibi’s actions.

She, in general, is the sort of person who’d wind up in The Hague if the world operated under the Nuremberg Principles
 
“New York Timescolumnist Maureen Dowd has commented that Cheney used "her patronage perch in the State Department during the Bush-Cheney years ... [and] bolstered her father's trumped-up case for an invasion of Iraq" while cheering "on her dad as he spread fear, propaganda and warped intelligence".[175]

“Cheney is a strong supporter of Israel and has expressed support for Israeli plans to annex parts of the occupied West Bank.[176] She signed a letter to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu that reaffirms "the unshakeable alliance between the United States and Israel".[177]

On June 17, 2021, Cheney was one of 160 House Republicans to vote against repealing the 2002 AUMF, which granted the Bush administration the authority to wage war with Iraq. She said that repealing the resolution "would send a message of weakness to our adversaries and allies alike".[181]

Cheney has supported the use of torture. In 2009, she defended the use of waterboarding during the George W. Bush administration, comparing it to SERE training.[185][186][187] In 2014, she criticized President Barack Obama after he said, "we tortured some folks".[188]Also that year, she criticized Nancy Pelosi for calling out her father for his support of using torture.[189]

In 2018, when U.S. senator John McCaincriticized CIA director nominee Gina Haspel, Cheney again defended the use of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques, saying that they "saved lives, prevented attacks, and produced intel that led to Osama bin Laden". Cheney's remarks were criticized by Meghan McCain, who responded that her father—who was tortured as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War—"doesn't need torture explained to him".[190]


Truly amazing the Democrats lost the election. After all, with Liz being hailed as a hero who knows why people refused to vote for them?
Cheney's votes as a Representative consistently supported trump's positions.

This makes her refusal to go along with his violent attempt to overturn the 2020 election especially noteworthy. And worthy of respect.
 
Cheney's votes as a Representative consistently supported trump's positions.

This makes her refusal to go along with his violent attempt to overturn the 2020 election especially noteworthy. And worthy of respect.
As I already pointed out, she has numerous positions that say otherwise.

If “opposing Trump” is literally the only thing that matters, then the Democrats have already lost.
 
....... and just like that, leftists love Haliburton.

Today, we are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
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No one has said that. Or come close to saying it. Or implied it. Or even hinted that "leftists love Haliburton".

What I respect about Cheney: unlike so many trump supporters, she came to the determination she could not support his violent attempt to overturn the 2020 election and install himself, the LOSER, as the incoming POTUS and CinC.

Unlike so many trump supporters, she put country ahead of political party.
 
Sounds like someone still has a case of sour grapes to me 🤷‍♂️. It's not really very interesting and more in line with her bitterness and quite predictable.

What i find more interesting is all the unearned praise the left, who are openly hostile to catholicism, are showering on this unproven man who has been ordained to be the Pope. It will be even more interesting watching them turn on him just a fervently if his decrees contradict their unholy tenets that think he shares with them.
And for those moderates and independents who are fiercely opposed to Cheney's politics but recognize her perspective on Trump and Trumpism vis a vis morality and patriotism as aligned with their own - what of them?
 
Trump isn't a Republican or a Conservative.
'Conservative' means the same thing it did before 2016, but 'Republican' is now synonymous with MAGA Trumpism. The party is Donald's because he has been writing the national party platform for a decade now and the party platform is the clearest expression of Republicanism. Even the state party platforms reflect Trumpist agenda.
 
I couldn't be bothered either. Is it @Chomsky who always lets us know what we are about to click on?
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thanks for posting this.

Yep, that's me! And, I hope I'm not the only one clearly labeling hypertext links!

I do this mainly because of my familiarity with academic & business writing, where one is expected to properly cite & credit. So I approach my OP's in a similar manner (though less formally).

I'm old-school, trained & educated the old-school way (Mid 20th Century Catholic Grammar/Catholic Prep). This was during a time and era when writing & speaking well were expected, and I threw myself into it as most of my family either barely spoke English or spoke none at all!

Consequently I like to keep standards for anything I release into the public, which the internet indeed is (public). You are judged by what & how you write.

Finally and more specifically, I'd like my potential reading audience to be fully informed as to my sources and links to them. I myself generally don't click on unidentified links, the exception perhaps being those from a trusted poster I'm well familiar with. Basically, I treat my potential readers they way I prefer to be treated.

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That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

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Now I'm going to move-on, leaving it for @nota bene to check for grammar & punctuation. . .
 
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Luv-v-v-v-v that woman!!!!!!!!!

Former Representative Liz Cheney took a swipe at President Donald Trump as she welcomed the election of a new pontiff, Pope Leo XIV.
Although the former GOP congresswoman from Wyoming did not explicitly mention the president, it was apparent that she was describing Trump as "an American man of depraved cruelty, corruption, and shame" in an X, formerly Twitter post, on Friday.

YES!!

Not a criticism, but how'd this get placed into the "Government Regulation" sub-forum?
 
Woman who vocally supports torturing innocent civilians talking about “cruelty”….

The irony is just too glaring.
If she decided to be an election denier and a Trump sycophant, she'd still be a congress woman getting your praise. So, let's not try to gaslight everyone here with all this BS. People change. And she took the constitutional route and decided to honor her oath instead of a Wanna-Be king.
 
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I am an admirer of Cheney and the gutsy tenacious role she has played in standing up to the Trumpian GOP, but I am a long long way from adoration. I am well aware of the full panoply of her views.
That's the problem with most of these MAGAs. They have tunnel vision. We are able to see the good and the bad in someone at the same time. I have never agreed with 95% of Liz Cheney's views. But I have respect for the position she has taken on Trump the seditionist. The fact that she's stuck to her guns about Trump since day one only increases her integrity to me. She cared more about America than her precious job.

More than we can say for just about all GOPers in congress.
 
Luv-v-v-v-v that woman!!!!!!!!!

Former Representative Liz Cheney took a swipe at President Donald Trump as she welcomed the election of a new pontiff, Pope Leo XIV.
Although the former GOP congresswoman from Wyoming did not explicitly mention the president, it was apparent that she was describing Trump as "an American man of depraved cruelty, corruption, and shame" in an X, formerly Twitter post, on Friday.

YES!!
Shocking... Just shocking I tell you.

She should go on a hunting trip with Daddy.
 
Yep, that's me! And, I hope I'm not the only one clearly labeling hypertext links!

I do this mainly because of my familiarity with academic & business writing, where one is expected to properly cite & credit. So I approach my OP's in a similar manner (though less formally).

I'm old-school, trained & educated the old-school way (Mid 20th Century Catholic Grammar/Catholic Prep). This was during a time and era when writing & speaking well were expected, and I threw myself into it as most of my family either barely spoke English or spoke none at all!

Consequently I like to keep standards for anything I release into the public, which the internet indeed is (public). You are judged by what & how you write.

Finally and more specifically, I'd like my potential reading audience to be fully informed as to my sources and links to them. I myself generally don't click on unidentified links, the exception perhaps being those from a trusted poster I'm well familiar with. Basically, I treat my potential readers they way I prefer to be treated.

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That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

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Now I'm going to move-on, leaving it for @nota bene to check for grammar & punctuation. . .
It's a great story, and even better, it's correct!! ;)
 
If she decided to be an election denier and a Trump sycophant, she'd still be a congress woman getting your praise. So, let's not try to gaslight everyone here with all this BS. People change. And she took the constitutional route and decided to honor her oath instead of a Wanna-Be king.
She proudly supports the torture of innocent civilians and the colonization of the West Bank. No amount of denial can change that.

Claiming “people change” is worthless without proof. Where is your evidence Liz now sees her father’s torture program as the atrocity it was?
 
Luv-v-v-v-v that woman!!!!!!!!!

Former Representative Liz Cheney took a swipe at President Donald Trump as she welcomed the election of a new pontiff, Pope Leo XIV.
Although the former GOP congresswoman from Wyoming did not explicitly mention the president, it was apparent that she was describing Trump as "an American man of depraved cruelty, corruption, and shame" in an X, formerly Twitter post, on Friday.

YES!!

Absolutely disgusting to be praising this right-wing neocon hag who called Dems baby-killers and overwhelmingly supported the policies of Donald Trump.
 
Democrats are stupid for cozying up to the Cheneyes and Bushes just because they agree in one area, on one person.
 

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