ab9924
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Since the 20th century introduction of female contraceptives, women are for the 1st time capable of commanding their own lives. (Even getting rid of men for their happiness, in extreme cases, such as feminism.) We men could achieve the same independence from women (and ourselves) if we had a similar contraceptive. I propose an applied research that results in such individual control over fertility, libido, and social imperatives, as the one that women gain out of the existing female products. Would you support such a development?
India if i am not mistaken has just developed a male contraceptive that can last for 10 years and is completely reversible through a small injection of water
Male Birth Control: New Procedure Is 100 Percent Effective, Reversible
I would pretty much leave that decision up to men. If they had hormonal effects, similar to the way BC has on women, I would definitely be cautious (if I were a man). Interferring too much with male hormone production and release could have some pretty serious consequences imo. I guess it depends on the mode of action.
That's really cool.
Since the 20th century introduction of female contraceptives, women are for the 1st time capable of commanding their own lives. (Even getting rid of men for their happiness, in extreme cases, such as feminism.) We men could achieve the same independence from women (and ourselves) if we had a similar contraceptive. I propose an applied research that results in such individual control over fertility, libido, and social imperatives, as the one that women gain out of the existing female products. Would you support such a development?
4. Of course I support contraception for men. It's sad that, in 2012, there's still nothing but condoms and vasectomies.
Yes, and on that note - I swear they don't pay enough attention to the negative side effects that come from women taking said contraception. I was prescribed several different types and very little was dedicated to discussing the negative aspects so I can make a fully informed decision.
Drs tend to just gloss that over - nevermind that if it alters chemical and hormonal balance it can really **** your head up.
There's the temporary plastic clip vasectomies. Don't know why those aren't more popular.
Since the 20th century introduction of female contraceptives, women are for the 1st time capable of commanding their own lives. (Even getting rid of men for their happiness, in extreme cases, such as feminism.) We men could achieve the same independence from women (and ourselves) if we had a similar contraceptive. I propose an applied research that results in such individual control over fertility, libido, and social imperatives, as the one that women gain out of the existing female products. Would you support such a development?
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was essentially speaking more about freedom from pregnancy and parenthood, not from women per say. Just reproductive choice and safeguard. This has already been accomplished for women, not just by the development and availability of better birth control, but also by the legalization of abortion. Women no longer need to be concerned about accidentally getting pregnant and becoming trapped in that pregnancy, having the rest of their lives completely altered with no say in the matter. Today, they can control (for the most part) when and if a pregnancy occurs through use of highly effective birth control, and in the case of accidental pregnancy, there is an avenue through which they can opt out of the life-altering responsibility it carries with it.And whatever else you said - it honestly makes little sense. Are you suggesting that controlling our lives centers around the legalization of birth control (it was around long before it was legal in the US)
And being a feminist doesn't mean I got rid of my want of being in a relationship - I am married. So I don't follow what you meant by that.
And I don't think that using birth control on behalf of a man is going to make him 'less dependent' (or whatever you're trying to say) on women.
Absolutely. I wish people would talk about this more. This should be a huge part of the abortion debate, at the very least.I would absolutely support male contraceptives. But if we really want to allow men to control their own reproductive destinies, we need to put an end to the coercive laws that make men responsible for the reproductive decisions of women.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was essentially speaking more about freedom from pregnancy and parenthood, not from women per say. Just reproductive choice and safeguard. This has already been accomplished for women, not just by the development and availability of better birth control, but also by the legalization of abortion. Women no longer need to be concerned about accidentally getting pregnant and becoming trapped in that pregnancy, having the rest of their lives completely altered with no say in the matter. Today, they can control (for the most part) when and if a pregnancy occurs through use of highly effective birth control, and in the case of accidental pregnancy, there is an avenue through which they can opt out of the life-altering responsibility it carries with it.
Men, on the other hand, have little or none of that same control. There is really only one method of birth control available to men (setting aside abstinence for obvious reasons), and that is the condom. The male condom in it's typical use has a failure rate of 15-18%. That's pretty significant, and significantly higher than birth control pills. That makes men somewhat dependent on their partners because we have to trust that they are properly using their birth control method(s) to increase our safety. This becomes even more of an issue for men within the confines of a committed relationship because usually both partners wish to stop using such an obtrusive method when they are having sex exclusively with one another. That makes men entirely dependent on their partner since there is no unobtrusive male contraceptive, like a pill. All he can do is trust her to take hers. And most importantly, in the event that an unwanted pregnancy does take place, the man has no say whatsoever in what happens next. Men are not afforded an avenue of escape from that responsibility the way women are, so he is completely powerless in the matter. His entire future, or at least the next 20 years of his life, now lie in the hands of his female partner.
I'm pretty sure that's what the OP meant when he talked about dependence.
And to answer the OP, of course I'd support it, and I'd take it. Until I was ready to knock someone up, that is.
I would absolutely support male contraceptives. But if we really want to allow men to control their own reproductive destinies, we need to put an end to the coercive laws that make men responsible for the reproductive decisions of women.
I would absolutely support male contraceptives. But if we really want to allow men to control their own reproductive destinies, we need to put an end to the coercive laws that make men responsible for the reproductive decisions of women.
Absolutely. I wish people would talk about this more. This should be a huge part of the abortion debate, at the very least.
It's called a condom... or pulling out. Besides, one more pill in my regimen and I'll be using an oil filter for a liver.Since the 20th century introduction of female contraceptives, women are for the 1st time capable of commanding their own lives. (Even getting rid of men for their happiness, in extreme cases, such as feminism.) We men could achieve the same independence from women (and ourselves) if we had a similar contraceptive. I propose an applied research that results in such individual control over fertility, libido, and social imperatives, as the one that women gain out of the existing female products. Would you support such a development?
I would absolutely support male contraceptives. But if we really want to allow men to control their own reproductive destinies, we need to put an end to the coercive laws that make men responsible for the reproductive decisions of women.
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