Liberal Pot Smoker said:
The five greatest presidents go in the following order: 5. Teddy Roosevelt. Roosevelt help create the forest perserves and was a big environmentalist.
So, being a big environmentalist makes one great? Teddy ran around South America with a big stick, if I recall, and didn't he also inspire the term "gunboat diplomacy"? And the national park/national forest system should have been self-financing. They're a drain on the budget.
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4. John F. Kennedy. JFK, even though didn't serve very long as president, his visions for America were adopted my many presidents after him, and his work with civil rights was ahead of his time.
JFK was an callow dolt with a turbo-charged zipper. Because of JFK, thousands of Cuban refugees were slaughtered in an ill-considered attempt to invade Cuba and overthrow Castro. That mission depended on US aircover. After the mission was launched, JFK declined to send the necessary planes. This is totally inexcusable in a former naval officer.
During the Cuban Missile Crisis, Curtis LeMay was flying bombers up to the border of Russia with nuclear weapons, trying to provoke a response. JFK should have had better control of his generals. Needless to say, the Cuban Missile Crisis was a direct result of JFK's placement of American missiles in Turkey. The whole situation developed from and hinged on Kennedy's incompetence.
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3. Abe Lincoln. "Honest Abe" from the great state of Illinois need slavery and stood up to the South which 15 other presidents before him couldn't do.
While high up on any list, Lincoln effectively destroyed the notion of "state's rights". War possibly could have been avoided if Lincoln re-opened issues that drove the South to secession, namely the tariff's imposed by the North and other economic issues. However, don't say I'm blaming the war on Lincoln. The South started the war, there's no doubt about that.
Liberal Pot Smoker said:
2. Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton brought economic prosperity to America for almost a decade. He helped improve health care and was very popular with Americans as well as the rest of the world.
:2funny:You mean the impeachee with the afterburner zipper on magnetically levitated bearings? Mr Whitewater? :2funny:The Dog Wagger and the Rapist? :2funny:THAT guy?! :2funny:
Oh! You mean the guy that let Osama bin Laden get away. The guy that shot a cruise missile up a camel's butt to upstage his whore's press conference after her deposition in the period leading up to the impeachment vote. You mean the guy that took total responsbility for the murders Janet Reno committed at Waco, then didn't fire that bull dyke baby killing jello-like criminal.
Maybe you're not talking about him, though. Maybe you're talking about the guy that inspired the movie "Black Hawk Down"? Maybe you're talking about that guy that let the USS Cole get blown up with no response whatsoever?
No no no. You're talking about the man who took a couple million dollars from Bernie Schwarze and let Bernie's company, Loral, tell the Chinese how to MIRV their missiles and improve their Long Shot II rockets, so now when they threaten to nuke Los Angeles they might hit it.
You're talking about the man that let the secrets of our state of the art W88 nuclear weapons leak to China.
You're talking about the man that took more millions from the Indonesian Lippo Group and in exchange create the Escalante Staircase National Monument, thereby using Teddy's stupid national park system to forever seal off one of the world's great supplies of low-sulphur coal.
You're talking about the man that invaded Kosovo just coincidentally at the same time the Cox Report detailing his illegal dealing with the Chinese PLA was due to be published.
The only thing great about the Rapist is the number of bad things he did.
Liberal Pot Smoker said:
1. Franklin Roosevelt. The greatest American to ever live he was president for 12 years.
Longevity does not mean greatness. The skill to win elections is not the same skills needed to do a good job. If Roosevelt doesn't prove that, no one does.
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A pioneer for his time, during his presidency he got America out of a depression, organized and prepared American for the lagest war the world has ever seen.
No, he didn't get America out of the Depression. His policies made it worse. You did see where I said he created a depresion within a depression didn't you?
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He also was a large part in establishing the United Nations.
Like I said, Roosevelt is the worst president in history. If you're going to disagree with me, you should present facts that support your contention, not mine.
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He created Social Security, Tennessee Valley Authority, and The New Deal.
Ditto what I just said.
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A notable mention to this list is Lyndon B. Johnson. LBJ created the Great Society, which ex panned the education system, gave poverty relief, and created Medicare amenest all other things. The reason he is not on this list is his decision on Vietnam was terrible.
Please note: "expanding the education system" is not the same thing as "teaching kids better".
The Great Society had absolutely no impact on the rate of poverty decline. That had been in process from a 22% peak in 1959 and was marked by a linear decrease of about a percent a year, down to 11 % in 1969. The data clearly show that the GS scam had nothing to do with it. The decline hit the basement just as the Great Society was taking effect.
Created Medicare, and thereby commenced the destruction of affordable medical care for all Americans.
It wasn't "his decision on Vietnam", his reaction to the so-called "Gulf of Tonkin Incident" was the purest lies imaginable.
Liberal Pot Smoker said:
Now on to the five worst presidents: 5. Ulysses s. Grant. Grant, during his term in office looked to congress for direction and was said to not know what he is doing. he also started a very corrupt line of republican presidents known as "Grant's Cronies".
That's an interesting notion. You're holding Grant responsible for other elected president's actions. I don't know enough about the time, but Grant's an odd choice, IMO.
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4. Warren Harding was the most corrupt president of all-time.
That's only if time stopped at Jan 19, 1997. On 20 Jan 1997, the most corrupt man since Pope Alexander took the Lie of Office, and Harding was reprieved. Did I mention the phony stone cross on the SANDY Normadie Beach, or the flag the conveniently fell over and rolled itself up at the cemetary?
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If thats not enough, he lead America into a depression.
No, Wilson's signing of the Federal Reserve Act caused the Depression.
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3. George H.W. Bush. Not only did Bush start the first gulf war just because Saudi Arabia thought they would be next,
Actually, Saddam Hussein started the war, in case you missed it. And isn't it strange for a UN worshipper to be blaming Bush for an action that he took with 100% UN backing?
Liberal Pot Smoker said:
but he raised taxes when he promissed he wouldn't,
You do realize that if Bush hadn't broken that promise that your boy the Rapist would never have been elected, don't you? How can you penalize Bush for doing something that you claim was ultimately beneficial?
Liberal Pot Smoker said:
and the economy was in recession when he left office in 1992.
Because he raised taxes. Apart from which, however, it wasn't that big of a recession, there's no law forbidding recessions in election years, the nation was out of the recession in late 1991, and you didn't ding Clinton when he left GW Bush with a recession in the spring of 2001. You should apply your criteria consistently.
Liberal Pot Smoker said:
2. Ronald Reagan. Reagan could talk. That was it. He did nothing substantial during his two terms, and basically kicked the communist while they were down, he didn't defeat them.
I can't think of anyone who was more deserving of kicking while they were down. He did nothing substantial, eh? Can't name a thing, is that it? We just kept wending down the recession path paved by Carter and Ford and barely came out on top in the Cold War. Who was it that said you can be ignorant, you can be free, but you can't be both?
Liberal Pot Smoker said:
1. George W. Bush. The Mecca of all that sucks in this world there is George Bush. The most unskillful president ever, he is worse then the other presidents for the sheer fact that he harmed this world more than he has helped it. America's economy is down, we've taken a step back in equal rights, and we've broken international laws by going into a Severn country to steal their oil.
The American economy is growing, has been since a little while after Clinton's pals attacked the WTC. I don't care if any US president harms or hurts the world, it's his duty to not harm the US population. Outside of spending enough to make even a Democrat blush, Bush hasn't done too bad. He doesn't top any list of mine, good or bad.
What step back in equal rights? Define equal, and what do you mean by "rights"?
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And the U.S. is more polluted and corrupt as its been in a long time. Now with the patriot act our freedoms are taken away from us.
More polluted, eh? Got any Stage One Smog Alerts in your town recently? And since Mr. Cattle Future left, the stench of corruption from Washington isn't as bad as it used to be. Oh, so long as you see corruption in only one party and not both, you'll never stop seeing it.