The boss has his duties, as well, ya know...everyone answers to someone, even Jesus Christ...
It's a work in process.
The work analogy is actually a fitting one. Marriages have goals which requires agreement to achieve. The goals can be mutually agreed upon. For instance it might be better for the woman to handle finances because she's better at it than the man. So they talk about it and mutually agree on it. But if a mutual agreement can't be reached how will the bills be paid. That wouldn't be good for the relationship. Someone has to make a decision. Of course even that can be discussed and decided. At the time Ephesians was written it was just culturally accepted that the man would have the final say so. But his decision would still have to be guided by love.
Having children is a mutually agreed upon goal. Perhaps something that should be discussed before getting married.
Certain functions within the household can be mutually decided upon. Most of the time they are culturally driven even today. Why is it the job of the man to cut the grass and the woman's job is to wash the dishes and clean the house? Regardless who does what at some point they need done. As I see it Ephesians just highlights who had the final say. Recognition of the fact that someone has to decide, love guides all. Christ (man) loved the church that he gave his life for it. The church (the bride of Christ - the woman) loves her husband enough to accept his loving leadership.
No, the culture is not the same but the principles can still apply. Two heads might be better than one, but if one head wants to go left while the other wants to go right you end up splitting up. Figure it out before you get married.
Sure I don't think the old cultural way of marriage should be mandated. Although I have heard arranged marriages can be successful.
In this case, my facts are the truth...
When people start saying they are done discussing, it means I've won and they have nothing more. We were doing good sharing information and our opinions.
Doubtful...
So while God was in a physical form there was no spiritual one at the same time?Lol - how can it be literal when God is SPIRIT?
But when we speak of "flesh," that would be God as Jesus (in HUMAN form).
Isaiah 54
“For your husband is your Maker,
Whose name is the Lord of hosts;
And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel,
Who is called the God of all the earth.
“For the Lord has called you,
Like a wife forsaken and grieved in spirit,
Even like a wife of one’s youth when she is rejected,”
Says your God.
“For a brief moment I forsook you,
But with great compassion I will gather you.
Lol - there it is again!
Our groom, JESUS - is GOD!
Lol - looks like every time you spout off - you end up giving evidence to support Jesus and God are One and the Same!
Seems like this could be about you, Elora!
He knows you love Him.
He might be showing you.
Aren't you hearing Him loud and clear?
Being ONE IN CHRIST, rings a bell?
Galatrians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
It couldn't possibly have anything to do with realizing we've been off topic long enough?
I haven't been in any forum where eventually posts are off topic. It's a natural progression.
True, but if you paid attention you might have noticed that every time we took a pause someone else brought it back on topic.
I really don't see the problem as long as it's good information that's being shared. I don't expect people to have an epiphany and immediately believe me and my faith. It took be 14 years to understand and convert.
WHOA! Wait a minute........
Actually, according to you.....................................THEY DO NO AGREE!
If God is not Jesus Christ, they contradict each other.
Like in this case of being husband and wife.
God claims He is our betroth!
Hosea 2
16 “In that day,” declares the Lord,
“you will call me ‘my husband’;
you will no longer call me ‘my master.[d]’
19 And I will betroth you to me forever. I will betroth you to me in righteousness and in justice, in steadfast love and in mercy.
Isaiah had prophesied God is our husband!
Isaiah 54
“For your husband is your Maker,
Whose name is the Lord of hosts;
And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel,
Who is called the God of all the earth.
Isn't Jesus our groom?
2 Cor 11:2
For I feel a divine jealousy for you, since I betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ.
Ephesians 5
24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.
Revelations 19
7 Let us rejoice and be glad
and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
and his bride has made herself ready.
Which one is our husband, Elora? God, or Christ?
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there's no evidence that God and Jesus are the same. If you want to go with the argument that "all things are possible with God" then you'll have to come up with an explanation/argument as to why God waited thousands of years to make an appearance in the form of Jesus. Something prevented Him from doing so. What?
Here's where you're simply confused. I support many of the doctrinal positions that Elora presents, as I should if I believe them to be accurate. You focus on her being a JW and because of that anything she states to you will be mostly contaminated because you assume it's the teaching of JW. I say it doesn't matter what credentials or religious associations a person has. I've spoken with those having both high degrees and associations with acceptable denominations and they still can get it wrong. What do you think the term Pharisee means? Why do you think Jesus refers to some of them as being hypocrites?Did you read what I was responding to?
Or, do you just automatically come to support Elora..........even without understanding what she's spouting off?
Oh boy, now you done it...you must be a glutton for punishment...she'll hound you from now on...
