Ah, I was trying to look around to find if Trayvon had injuries, I can't find any sites that say either way. Does anyone know if he had injuries also? I fin d it hard to believe that a person who is 100 lbs heavier than someone else loses a fight.
The GFs statement contradicts Zimmermans.
God, Michael Moore now? Anybody we're missing? George Soros? FDR? Saddam Hussein?
You know, when you start answering my questions, I'll start answering yours.
- You claimed TONS of evidence of a botched police investigation. I asked for more information on the TONS, got zip.
- You then whined about how a shooter could not be tested for alcohol / drugs and I asked where in the Florida statutes it identifies that's a requirement. Got nothing again.
- I then claimed you're making stuff up without evidence... again no response.
I'll wait...
You mean the same police that didn't do a toxicology report on Zimmerman. The same police that didn't do any analysis on the weapon. The same police that didn't take pics of Zimmerman's injuries or contact the victim's family with the cellphone they had in custody. The same police that didn't run Zimmerman's priors and told the family his record was squeaky clean? Those police?
The kid did not confirm Zimmerman was screaming as far as I know
If it's a concealed weapon, how did Martin know to go for it unless Zimmerman drew it?
If Zimmerman drew the weapon and Martin rushed it, it would make a lot of sense no?
Read it. The police bungled the case.
Martin suddenly surprised, Zim by launching a full-fledged attack without any warning to him within close range
Martin most definitely had the edge. Its escalating mayhem after that
100lbs..150lbs advantage means squat when, you are sucker punchedeace
It shouldn't be IMHO... Being in an altered state almost always changes your fight or flight thinking.
If all what you are saying is *true*then why, the NO-GO from, the DA to even file? Given all the evidence?
Why? Among the litigators, the technical term of art for such pronouncements without certainty is "****ing useless bull****."
Stalking someone IMHO is an act of hostility. If you are walking down a road at night and someone is following you on the phone staring at you; wouldn't you become suspicious of this person? Under Zimmerman's logic, it is okay to suspect people wandering the streets at night as suspicious, but EVERYONE should know that he is the police captain...
Wether you think it should be or not, has squat to do with it. If they had reason to suspect he was in an altered state, they would have gotten a warrant and tested him. If they had no reason to suspect it - after 2 hours of interrogation - probably means he wasn't under the influence of anything.
Right, but if he is lying then...
You can follow someone. As long as you dont get aggressive you are not breaking any laws. I addressed this already. Please read my other post.
You can follow someone. As long as you dont get aggressive you are not breaking any laws. I addressed this already. Please read my other post.
Right, but even being addicted to certain drugs will alter your state of thinking. I mean, you just shot and killed someone; how much of an inconvenience is it for them to take some blood and for you to blow into a tube compared to the rest of crap he has gone through.
and that person you follow, may find your following to be threatening.
if you follow someone and approach them, expect to get a broken nose.
SYG allows this.
then we should see some evidence.
But maybe Zimmerman beat his own head in. Broke his own nose. Screamed for help on the 911 tape and convinced eye witnesses to lie. That really seems reasonable to you?
Is that the TONS you claimed? That's the next last sentence in the article that was previously posted, from one new source. So the truth is, there is no TONS, there's one blurb identifying another team is going over the police work. No sources, no names, no dates, no specifics. No TONS.Corey's team is now reinvestigating a case that the Sanford Police Department is accused of bungling. Possible police missteps include failing to administer a toxicology exam on Zimmerman, not impounding his car, and failing to contact key witnesses -- like Martin's girlfriend, who was talking to the teen by cell phone and heard most of the scuffle with Zimmerman unfold.
^^ That was in a response to someone else... ^^
Page 2: Trayvon Martin Shooter Says Teenager Went for His Gun - ABC News
It's not logical to force an alcohol/drug test unless there's probable cause to do so. That's covered under the Constitution's 4th Amendment and protects you from illegal search and seizure as well as being forced to partake in illegal drug/alcohol tests when there is no evidence of drugs or alcohol. That's not only logical, that's VERY logical.It isn't defined that it should happen. I was under the assumption that we lived in a logical society...
There was and is no evidence of a botched anything...If you are referring to the botched investigation, see above...
I'll wait...
If I accused you of murder, and the police failed to take your blood, does that mean you are guilty?
Right, but even being addicted to certain drugs will alter your state of thinking. I mean, you just shot and killed someone; how much of an inconvenience is it for them to take some blood and for you to blow into a tube compared to the rest of crap he has gone through.
No it doesnt.
But even if it did, there is more proof that Martin approached Zimmerman not the other way around.
Explain how Zimmerman being armed didn't put Martin in danger. Seriously, explain it. How did he go from "no danger of death or injury" to dead.
I guess whether he is lying or telling the truth will come out in the inevitable trial. Unfortunately (and yes you have changed my opinion on this subject), no one is going to find him innocent; No one will find him innocent with the mob ready to lynch him. Martyrs are for the lose.
Ah, I was trying to look around to find if Trayvon had injuries, I can't find any sites that say either way. Does anyone know if he had injuries also? I fin d it hard to believe that a person who is 100 lbs heavier than someone else loses a fight.
It's not logical to force an alcohol/drug test unless there's probable cause to do so. That's covered under the Constitution's 4th Amendment and protects you from illegal search and seizure as well as being forced to partake in illegal drug/alcohol tests when there is no evidence of drugs or alcohol. That's not only logical, that's VERY logical.
and that person you follow, may find your following to be threatening.
if you follow someone and approach them, expect to get a broken nose.
SYG allows this.
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