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Will there be another coup attempt if Trump loses or goes to jail?

Another coup attempt?


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The prosecutions are purely political to embarrass Trump and conservatives.
So then maybe you can point out how they made up the case? All the evidence was what - fake news? Rhodes was found guilty of sedition and sentenced to 18 years. Sedition charge are rare because it is very hard to prove. They did. But you want us to believe it was all faked to embarrass trump? You know he wanted those domestic terror groups to "stand back and stand by" yes?

Rhodes own family was elated to hear he was being locked.

I look forward to you telling us how the case was all made up, in detail.
 
I'm trying to figure out why you think it's so important to be charged with taking part in an insurrection vs what they are being found guilty of and now serving time. How exactly are the prosecutors responsible for the guilty pleas?

Let me take a stab at it.

People on your side of the argument keep asserting that 01/06 was either an insurrection or a coup attempt.

The fact that no one has been charged/convicted with a crime equivalent to either label indicates such labeling is deceptive and disinformation.

At worst, what happened was a "riot" similar to those many examples in various cities and even Washington D.C..

Yet people of a certain viewpoint bias label one an "insurrection" or a "coup," while the other examples are "mostly peaceful protests."

And I promise you, Trump does enough to embarrass himself on a daily basis. One of his latest was trying to blame Jack Smith for a cardboard cutout photo that was taken in 2018 at a Republican dinner. What a guy!

Trump is Trump. He is a down and dusty businessman who took a shot at politics and was given a chance by people who wanted something, ANYTHING different than what we'd been getting from BOTH Parties over the years.

I've known about Trump for decades, having grown up in NYC back in the day. I also know about NYC politics, crime, unions, government graft, etc. and how people have to deal with all sorts of things to live and do business there. So I am not surprised at how Trump acts.

He's not a politician. IMO that's a better recommendation than any political hack (like our current President) who is a creature of the government swamp.
 
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Let me take a stab at it.

People on your side of the argument keep asserting that 01/06 was either an insurrection or a coup attempt.

The fact that no one has been charged/convicted with a crime equivalent to either label indicates such labeling is deceptive and disinformation.

At worst, what happened was a "riot" similar to those many examples in various cities and even Washington D.C..

Yet people of a certain viewpoint bias label one an "insurrection" or a "coup," while the other examples are "mostly peaceful protests."



Trump is Trump. He is a down and dusty businessman who took a shot at politics and was given a chance by people who wanted something, ANYTHING different than what we'd been getting from BOTH Parties over the years.

I've known about Trump for decades, having grown up in NYC back in the day. I also know about NYC politics, crime, unions, government graft, etc. and how people have to deal with all sorts of things to live and do business there. So I am not surprised at how Trump acts.

He's not a politician. IMO that's a better recommendation than any political hack (like our current President) who is a creature of the government swamp.
Well said. 👍
 
Let me take a stab at it.

People on your side of the argument keep asserting that 01/06 was either an insurrection or a coup attempt.

The fact that no one has been charged/convicted with a crime equivalent to either label indicates such labeling is deceptive and disinformation.

At worst, what happened was a "riot" similar to those many examples in various cities and even Washington D.C..

Yet people of a certain viewpoint bias label one an "insurrection" or a "coup," while the other examples are "mostly peaceful protests."



Trump is Trump. He is a down and dusty businessman who took a shot at politics and was given a chance by people who wanted something, ANYTHING different than what we'd be getting from BOTH Parties over the years.

I've known about Trump for decades, having grown up in NYC back in the day. I also know about NYC politics, crime, unions, government graft, etc. and how people have to deal with all sorts of things to live and do business there. So I am not surprised at how Trump acts.

He's not a politician. IMO that's a better recommendation than any political hack (like our current President) who is a creature of the government swamp.

I've heard it referred to as an out of control kegger. Hostetter who was convicted today told the court it was basically a 3 hour hissy-fit. So I guess that falls under your deceptive disinformation labeling as well. There is also all the ramblings about how people weren't armed because somewhere along the line bats, tasers, flag poles made into spears fell short of an actual weapon. This guy had a hatchet in his backpack. I'm fairly certain no one needs a hatchet to "tour the capitol". So all this banter over it being called an insurrection, a coup, a riot, an out of control kegger or a 3 hour hissy fit isn't changing what we saw and what they did. It's not changing the fact almost 600 (594) have pleaded guilty to various federal charges and many are serving time.

As for Trump he's narcissistic child in an adult body and he has no business ever setting foot in the WH again. He's caused enough damage.
 
Of course they would say that, being a far left extremist publication. Their preferred end goal would be a one party nation, the Democrat party.


Of course they would say that that too, being who and what they are.

Of course they would say that? LoL are you for real? You’re the one who posted the link claiming it proved your fantasies about the hearings being all one sided, all political propaganda, which it didn’t. You just cherry picked the parts you liked.

I see that you are reading only what doesn't cause any ideological cognitive dissonance.
Completely skipping / ignoring this below because of this:

The failure is the complete one siddedness which both articles call out. So ensconced in your view, you can't even see it when you (allegedly) read it those articles.
The hilarious irony in your comments always goes swoosh, right over your head. 😂

I actually did read them, and when the entirety is kept in context, the pieces even with their criticisms did not support YOUR fantasies.

I don’t know if you intentionally take things out of context, or it’s comprehension issues on your part, but no they did not both highlight the abject failure in their “search for the truth“ the way you’ve been claiming. They most certainly weren’t saying that it was Democrats politically motivated political propaganda narrative, or that the House Select committee selected only video and witnesses which pushed their one sided political narrative, or that it was a Kangaroo court playing to public opinion for political advantage, or that the hearings were little more than 1/2 truths, typical of propaganda. A Goebbels job, or any of your other fantasies.

And no, they didn’t both highlight the committee’s politically one sided nature, no they weren’t calling out the complete one sidedness. The criticisms were that they didn’t go far enough. they actually supported the hearings. What they believed should have also been included would not have been another side, or proving your other fantasy version, it would actually have still been the same side lol.

But you want to talk about only reading what doesn’t cause ideological cognitive dissonance and truly being so ensconced in a view one can’t see it when one reads articles? Ok.

For starters, you were asked to elaborate on your fantasy that only the 1/2 of the story which Democrats permitted was told, hence the fauxrage from them when the full surveillance videos were made public, and that they didn't want anything but 'their side' of the story told. You responded by posting four links all about Tucker Carlson as your proof, along with a snarky comment that surely I must have heard of them. But those articles you linked not not only didn’t they support Tucker Carlson’s claims, they were disputing it.
Oops, looks like your being so ensconced in your view you couldn't see it even when reading it, oops you only read what didn’t cause any ideological cognitive dissonance.

Then when a poster said that the people who broke in to the capitol that day were there at Trump’s command, you said it was a false assertion and posted two year old links as your proof. Links so outdated that they actually said that there has been little, if any, recent discussion by senior Justice Department officials of filing charges such as "seditious conspiracy", and also said so far prosecutors had steered clear of more serious charges as seditious conspiracy.
Oops again.

And now two articles just cherry picking parts that you like.

There are always 2 sides to every story, and the House Select committee only told the Democrat's demanded side of the story.
Why is that so difficult for you?
No, there aren’t ‘always’ two sides, that’s just silly. That’s like saying if someone robs a bank there must be another side. And no, the committee did not only tell the ‘Democrat’s demanded side of the story’. That’s all your fantasy, which no matter how many times you’ve repeated it you couldn’t even state what that other side of the story is.

What’s not difficult to understand is reality vs your fantasies.

But by all means carry on, double down to your heart’s content, I’m done on this particular topic, you’ve already shown that you have no actual substance behind your claims, just conspiracy peddling, buzzwords, goal post moving, along with lots and lots of hyperbole.
 
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Let me take a stab at it.

People on your side of the argument keep asserting that 01/06 was either an insurrection or a coup attempt.

The fact that no one has been charged/convicted with a crime equivalent to either label indicates such labeling is deceptive and disinformation.
No. This has been answered many times here. The dictionary definition of ”insurrection” is “a violent uprising against authority”. No ’charges‘ are required to meet the definition. Now clearly what happened on January 6th meets that definition perfectly. Pretending it didn’t happen because people weren’t charged with a crime called “insurrection” is dishonest and misleading.

At worst, what happened was a "riot"…
No. Can you explain how the events of that day were not “a violent uprising against authority”? If not, then there was an insurrection that day. It’s pretty simple. Charges are not relevant to whether or not an insurrection occurred.

He's not a politician.
No. Trump is a sleazy NY real estate developer turned cheap reality TV Star turned politician. He has been a politician for a number of years now. A grifter all along the way, but he is a politician.
 
I'm trying to figure out why you think it's so important to be charged with taking part in an insurrection vs what they are being found guilty of and now serving time. How exactly are the prosecutors responsible for the guilty pleas?

And I promise you, Trump does enough to embarrass himself on a daily basis. One of his latest was trying to blame Jack Smith for a cardboard cutout photo that was taken in 2018 at a Republican dinner. What a guy!

The above does not negate @Paradoxical's claim that the prosecutions are purely political to embarrass Trump and conservatives.

Do you want to know more about "what a guy", a sitting a president, number 46, does? The guy goes on national TV to create a FAKE narrative that MAGA are extreme semi-fascists? There you go.. What a guy! Paradoxical is not wrong. It's all political to embarrass Trump and conservatives and to shame those of us who gave him our votes.
 
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No. This has been answered many times here. The dictionary definition of ”insurrection” is “a violent uprising against authority”. No ’charges‘ are required to meet the definition. Now clearly what happened on January 6th meets that definition perfectly. Pretending it didn’t happen because people weren’t charged with a crime called “insurrection” is dishonest and misleading.


No. Can you explain how the events of that day were not “a violent uprising against authority”? If not, then there was an insurrection that day. It’s pretty simple. Charges are not relevant to whether or not an insurrection occurred.


No. Trump is a sleazy NY real estate developer turned cheap reality TV Star turned politician. He has been a politician for a number of years now. A grifter all along the way, but he is a politician.

Your dictionary definition, while noted, isn't paramount in the grander scheme of things.
NO one was charged with the legal definition of an INSURRECTION.
Put that puppy to rest, my friend.
 
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Oh great, an attempt to insult people's reading abilities?

What's next? I'm rubber, you're glue?
My response was not to you. It was to a post that was nothing but a repeat of an indefensible position;
“Most of these posters remember just make claims. You know, like there was a resurrection, and when asked why no charges for insurrection you get crickets.”
That question has been answered here many times. The assertion It has not been is laughably and demonstrably false. It’s a dishonest question, and teh challenge response to explain the gap in reality vs what they (you) want to pretend is the meaning of insurrection has gone woefully unanswered.

Anyone reading this thread can see it for themselves. Hence my response “You know people can read, yes?”

Hope this helps.
 
Hmm, you must be confused. I think maybe your Google translator has broken and been replaced with a 7 year old troll.

The good kind of person mocks failed humans like Trump.
So you're admitting to being a failed human yourself.
Well it's strange, but at least it's refreshing to see this amount of honesty from someone.
 
My response was not to you.
So what?
It was to a post that was nothing but a repeat of an indefensible position;
“Most of these posters remember just make claims.
Like you don't? It's a public message board, and not a private club.
You know, like there was a resurrection, and when asked why no charges for insurrection you get crickets.”
Because it wasn't an insurrection. Stop wearing the word out.
That question has been answered here many times. The assertion It has not been is laughably and demonstrably false. It’s a dishonest question, and teh challenge response to explain the gap in reality vs what they (you) want to pretend is the meaning of insurrection has gone woefully unanswered.
Sounds like a word salad to me. ^
Anyone reading this thread can see it for themselves. Hence my response “You know people can read, yes?”

Hope this helps.
I can see it for myself. You are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. You say insurrection, I say violent riot.
 
I'm trying to figure out why you think it's so important to be charged with taking part in an insurrection vs what they are being found guilty of and now serving time. How exactly are the prosecutors responsible for the guilty pleas?

And I promise you, Trump does enough to embarrass himself on a daily basis. One of his latest was trying to blame Jack Smith for a cardboard cutout photo that was taken in 2018 at a Republican dinner. What a guy!
Gotcha
 
So what?

Like you don't? It's a public message board, and not a private club.

Because it wasn't an insurrection. Stop wearing the word out.

Sounds like a word salad to me. ^

I can see it for myself. You are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. You say insurrection, I say violent riot.
Insurrection:

“a violent uprising against an authority or government.”

Was it violent? Check
Was it aimed at a government? Check

Only people who don’t understand English can’t understand that J6 fit the definition exactly.
=willful ignorance
 
Insurrection:

“a violent uprising against an authority or government.”

Was it violent? Check
Was it aimed at a government? Check

Only people who don’t understand English can’t understand that J6 fit the definition exactly.
=willful ignorance

Violent uprising by the MSM stoking the flames and FBI agents embedded at a false flag event while the election was stolen by the government over the true will of the people.

STOLEN ELECTION
 
I thought you were done with thread/website.

Go figure.

Why do you care so much?

You seem concerned.

You following them around, for what?

“All of our voices need to be “herd.” - IQ57

Right?

We all need to be indoctrinated with propaganda so we all fall in line and everyone is now on hall patrol policing other to fall in line for the narrative of propaganda washing our brains from the elites trying to control us?

Do you folks see what you are doing?
Or you just don’t care?
Or it’s on purpose to divide through hate and lies because you hate America for whatever reason?

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Insurrection:

“a violent uprising against an authority or government.”

Was it violent? Check
Was it aimed at a government? Check

Only people who don’t understand English can’t understand that J6 fit the definition exactly.
=willful ignorance

Bring us the legal definition, Federal US Code; Insurrection and while you're on a roll, remind us as to who was formerly charged with
18 U.S. Code § 2383
Making the popcorn while I wait, but try to be quick, I've had a long day.
 
Bring us the legal definition, Federal US Code; Insurrection and while you're on a roll, remind us as to who was formerly charged with
18 U.S. Code § 2383
Making the popcorn while I wait, but try to be quick, I've had a long day.
Do your own homework
I gave you the accepted definition
Should I post it again? Or do yprefer this one:

“: the act or an instance of revolting especially violently against civil or political authority or against an established government. also : the crime of inciting or engaging in such revolt. whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States…”

Patience! Jack the Ripper isn’t yet done with his homework. Then more indictments will be filed.
This is fun!
 
I would if I were you.

Repeat the lie.

Then maybe they will believe it.
MAGATS will never believe the truth. They live in a fantasy world and love licking the boots of the one term mistake.
Normal people can’t have a reasonable conversation with people who don’t live in reality. MAGATS are by definition such boot lickers.
 
MAGATS will never believe the truth. They live in a fantasy world and love licking the boots of the one term mistake.
Normal people can’t have a reasonable conversation with people who don’t live in reality. MAGATS are by definition such boot lickers.

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Address, please.
 
I'm trying to figure out why you think it's so important to be charged with taking part in an insurrection vs what they are being found guilty of and now serving time. How exactly are the prosecutors responsible for the guilty pleas?

And I promise you, Trump does enough to embarrass himself on a daily basis. One of his latest was trying to blame Jack Smith for a cardboard cutout photo that was taken in 2018 at a Republican dinner. What a guy!
This thread delivers.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
The above does not negate @Paradoxical's claim that the prosecutions are purely political to embarrass Trump and conservatives.

Do you want to know more about "what a guy", a sitting a president, number 46, does? The guy goes on national TV to create a FAKE narrative that MAGA are extreme semi-fascists? There you go.. What a guy! Paradoxical is not wrong. It's all political to embarrass Trump and conservatives and to shame those of us who gave him our votes.
So people shouldn't be charged for committing crimes in order to not embarrass Trump and conservatives? I would think the "law and order" response is to no break the law so you don't embarrass yourself, and even worse, end up in prison.
 
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