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Will the right wing blame game work this time?

JamesBY said:
You can take it however you take it. The GOP owns the problem, and must live with their success or failure concerning it. The nation watches.
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Again, you admit that Obamacare is a failure and desperately want to dump it's many problems off on the Republicans. Whatever happened to you guys saying that there are no problems with Obamacare? The Democrats are the ones who were captain of the Titanic and now you want to push all of the passengers out of the way and grab the lifeboats for yourselves before it is too late.
 
JamesBY said:
For their sins, of course.
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I get it now. You guys can blame Republicans for everything and let your own party off the hook for everything while trying to claim the other side is the one who does it.
 
bearpoker said:
Well we do disagree with them but show me specifically where we blame them for our screw ups.
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I realize you've only got 159 posts, which means you probably don't have the time to read many posts either, but the site is saturated with the left blaming Reagan and GWB for many things (not even mentioning Trump), particularly income inequality. Of course you want to claim that your side doesn't have any screwups so that the only screwups are traced back to Republicans.
 
Moderate Right said:
Again, you admit that Obamacare is a failure and desperately want to dump it's many problems off on the Republicans. Whatever happened to you guys saying that there are no problems with Obamacare? The Democrats are the ones who were captain of the Titanic and now you want to push all of the passengers out of the way and grab the lifeboats for yourselves before it is too late.
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You stepped in it again with your poor deflection. The GOP owns it. Now if you want to blame the Dems in 2010, then you can blame Bush and the GOP for the Great Recession. Let's see if you understand the reciprocity of logic.
 
Moderate Right said:
I get it now. You guys can blame Republicans for everything and let your own party off the hook for everything while trying to claim the other side is the one who does it.
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I am GOP, and I am American, and thus I hold both parties accountable. The GOP now owns ACA.
 
Moderate Right said:
I realize you've only got 159 posts, which means you probably don't have the time to read many posts either, but the site is saturated with the left blaming Reagan and GWB for many things (not even mentioning Trump), particularly income inequality. Of course you want to claim that your side doesn't have any screwups so that the only screwups are traced back to Republicans.
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The site is saturated with the Far and Alt rights blaming Clinton and Obama and Gore and Stalin and Castro and on and on and on. Do not expect any Fairness Doctrine from either side. :)
 
JamesBY said:
You stepped in it again with your poor deflection. The GOP owns it. Now if you want to blame the Dems in 2010, then you can blame Bush and the GOP for the Great Recession. Let's see if you understand the reciprocity of logic.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is you who want to deflect the Obamacare failure to Republicans.
 
ocean515 said:
I'm curious why you would conclude the GOP owns something the Democrats unilaterally created.
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Because the GOP, like the Dems, govern the system. The GOP is the majority party, it said it would repeal and replace ACA, and all it can do is pee on its collective feet.
 
Moderate Right said:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is you who want to deflect the Obamacare failure to Republicans.
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What deflection? GOP is in power, and it has to fix the program, and it can't because we have people like you don't understand what is good for America.
 
JamesBY said:
Because the GOP, like the Dems, govern the system. The GOP is the majority party, it said it would repeal and replace ACA, and all it can do is pee on its collective feet.
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I agree it's pathetic, after all the previous votes, they have yet to pass something now that they hold the reigns.

I don't get this effort to transfer ownership of the Democrats ACA to the GOP as a result.

That's like blaming a mechanic trying to fix a car on the design of the vehicle they are working on.
 
JamesBY said:
The site is saturated with the Far and Alt rights blaming Clinton and Obama and Gore and Stalin and Castro and on and on and on. Do not expect any Fairness Doctrine from either side. :)
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I agree that both sides do the blame game. But, to claim it is only the Republicans who do it is dishonest, as in wanting to put full blame on Republicans if Obamacare fails. That's just partisan crap.
 
JamesBY said:
You are a Farino with a growing nose. :) The Alt Right like you do not belong in the GOP.
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I have been criticized by many on the far right here so that just proves I am not far right, but I realize it is important for the far left partisans to label anyone who disagrees with them as deplorables.
 
ocean515 said:
I agree it's pathetic, after all the previous votes, they have yet to pass something now that they hold the reigns.

I don't get this effort to transfer ownership of the Democrats ACA to the GOP as a result.

That's like blaming a mechanic trying to fix a car on the design of the vehicle they are working on.
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Nope, more like a mechanic refusing to fix a car that he did not break. The job of congress critters is to pass (or change) laws to address problems, whether they created them or not.
 
JamesBY said:
What deflection? GOP is in power, and it has to fix the program, and it can't because we have people like you don't understand what is good for America.
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If Obamacare was so good for America then why does it need such major fixing? The Democrats rammed through a partisan plan that doesn't work and then expect Republicans to fix their partisan plan with partisan fixes.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Nope, more like a mechanic refusing to fix a car that he did not break. The job of congress critters is to pass (or change) laws to address problems, whether they created them or not.
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Well, if that's your take, the Democrats are the ones refusing to fix the car.

Again, I think it's pathetic the Republicans have been unable to pass something so far. How that means they own the Democrats ACA remains a mystery to me.
 
ocean515 said:
Well, if that's your take, the Democrats are the ones refusing to fix the car.

Again, I think it's pathetic the Republicans have been unable to pass something so far. How that means they own the Democrats ACA remains a mystery to me.
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It seems more like the demorats are denying that the car needs repair - using the excuse that PPACA is more popular that the republicant replacement proposal.

Congress made the mess and congress must fix the mess - having two parties of no is useless. I was uninsured before and after PPACA so I really don't expect federal help in that area and will likely be 65 (and on Medicare) before anything happens.
 
ocean515 said:
I agree it's pathetic, after all the previous votes, they have yet to pass something now that they hold the reigns.

I don't get this effort to transfer ownership of the Democrats ACA to the GOP as a result.

That's like blaming a mechanic trying to fix a car on the design of the vehicle they are working on.
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Not in the slightest. The GOP said it could fix it, and it won't.
 
Moderate Right said:
If Obamacare was so good for America then why does it need such major fixing? The Democrats rammed through a partisan plan that doesn't work and then expect Republicans to fix their partisan plan with partisan fixes.
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Don't deflect. We said we could fix it, yet we pee on our collective feet.
 
ocean515 said:
Well, if that's your take, the Democrats are the ones refusing to fix the car. Again, I think it's pathetic the Republicans have been unable to pass something so far. How that means they own the Democrats ACA remains a mystery to me.
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So you don't get it, OK. The GOP, however, refuses to fix the problem.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
It seems more like the demorats are denying that the car needs repair - using the excuse that PPACA is more popular that the republicant replacement proposal.

Congress made the mess and congress must fix the mess - having two parties of no is useless. I was uninsured before and after PPACA so I really don't expect federal help in that area and will likely be 65 (and on Medicare) before anything happens.
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The dems are wrong if they think program does not need fixing. That is as bad as those who say we need no program at all.
 
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JamesBY said:
The dems are wrong if they think program does need fixing. That is as bad as those who say we need no program at all.
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OK, since we agree that both the demorats and the republicants are wrong, what demorat "fix PPACA" bill would you support?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, since we agree that both the demorats and the republicants are wrong, what demorat "fix PPACA" bill would you support?
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Some cost control that puts an excess earning tax on providers that is cycled into subsidies for the poor.
 
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