Will Republicans See a Brokered Convention?

[cpwill]

Three States. Three Winners. 4 men unlikely to get out any time soon.

All the way?

 

[Jetboogieman]

Early states are early states, there's alot of time between now and the convention and with the risk of sounding premature given Gingrich's resurgance, Santorum and Paul are unlikely to gain any steam from here on in.

The problem we have is that Newt Gingrich of course will gain a bit of steam heading towards Florida, and Mitt Romney is probably in his campaign war room having a pretty hard discussion with his staff about low balling Gingrich on the whole marriage thing.

I mean to be honest it's pretty difficult all recent allegations aside, to say you're the party of family values and elect this guy as your nominee who says the following:



But is a two timed divorced, known profilic adulterer regardless of what the ex wife said last week.

If what you're suggesting occurs though, and it does come down to the wire in Tampa, we won't see a brokered convention, I think we'll see a broken convention, with massive infighting between Tea Party Conservatives, the Religious Right and the Moderates that could lead to a lot of ugly rangling and a candidate that will come from what I will analogize as a "broken home".

Oh I love speculation, it's fun.

 

[samsmart]

Early states are early states, there's alot of time between now and the convention and with the risk of sounding premature given Gingrich's resurgance, Santorum and Paul are unlikely to gain any steam from here on in.

The problem we have is that Newt Gingrich of course will gain a bit of steam heading towards Florida, and Mitt Romney is probably in his campaign war room having a pretty hard discussion with his staff about low balling Gingrich on the whole marriage thing.

I mean to be honest it's pretty difficult all recent allegations aside, to say you're the party of family values and elect this guy as your nominee who says the following:



But is a two timed divorced, known profilic adulterer regardless of what the ex wife said last week.

If what you're suggesting occurs though, and it does come down to the wire in Tampa, we won't see a brokered convention, I think we'll see a broken convention, with massive infighting between Tea Party Conservatives, the Religious Right and the Moderates that could lead to a lot of ugly rangling and a candidate that will come from what I will analogize as a "broken home".

Oh I love speculation, it's fun.

Why didn't you talk about Ron Paul?

 

[haymarket]

A brokered convention is the fantasy wet dream of political junkies and the media. And I plead guilty of desiring one. I suspect that will not happen and Romney will be the nominee. However, if Florida is a repeat of SC, all bets are off.

 

[Peter Grimm]

Romney (or the Romney PAC) is going to need to break out more negative ads like this one, or else kiss the candidacy goodbye...

Mitt Romney attacks Newt Gingrich Florida ad - YouTube

Hey, it worked in Iowa...

 

[haymarket]

Romney (or the Romney PAC) is going to need to break out more negative ads like this one, or else kiss the candidacy goodbye...

Mitt Romney attacks Newt Gingrich Florida ad - YouTube

Hey, it worked in Iowa...

There is little doubt that the next ten days will see the wrath of the Wall Street wing come down heavy and hard upon the head of Gingrich. I suspect it will only cause the ugliness to be escalated on both sides and the GOP damaged from the war.

This is really turning out quite excellent for President Obama.

 

[Your Star]

If what you're suggesting occurs though, and it does come down to the wire in Tampa, we won't see a brokered convention, I think we'll see a broken convention, with massive infighting between Tea Party Conservatives, the Religious Right and the Moderates that could lead to a lot of ugly rangling and a candidate that will come from what I will analogize as a "broken home".

Oh I love speculation, it's fun.

And if this does happen, the Obama campaign will be popping champagne.

 

[haymarket]

Chuck Todd of NBC has a very insightful observation on MEET THE PRESS just now. He said that there is some talk of favorite son candidates in places like California and New Jersey and other states. If they can pull that off and Romney and Gingrich divide up the delegates in the other states, then we could get that brokered convention possibility. The bad news came when Mike Murphy (a Republican advisor) said the name you most hear coming out of a brokered convention is Jeb Bush - which I think would be a disaster.

 

[mgdiddy]

That's the last thing the REpublican Party wants. But Newt wont vow out either, as much as he should.

Maico Ponce

 

[repeter]

I did some reading on brokered conventions, but I'm not entirely sure I understand it. Could someone help me out please? Thanks in advance

 

[Helix]

Will Republicans See a Brokered Convention?

in my opinion, almost certainly not in 2012.

 

[danarhea]

Newt may have gotten a bounce out of South Carolina, but that state, and maybe a couple of others, are an anomaly, and do not truly represent a cross section of voters this fall, or even a fairly accurate representation of Republican constituency.

The winner is still going to be Romney.

 

[Catawba]

No way, they will continue to drop as the big funders make it clear where it hurts, in the pocketbook, that Romney is the choice of the status quo.

 

[teamosil]

I'm betting no, but it's a close call. IMO what will determine it is what the voters do after Newt's next big implosion. If they go back to Romney, no brokered convention. If they go instead to Santorum of Paul, there most likely will be a brokered convention.

 

[teamosil]

Dear god....

 

[teamosil]

That's just insane. I can't get over that. Only 64% of South Carolina is white, but 99% of the voters in the Republican primary are white?! WTF! Something is very, very, very, broken in the GOP when that kind of thing is happening.

 

[Catawba]

That's just insane. I can't get over that. Only 64% of South Carolina is white, but 99% of the voters in the Republican primary are white?! WTF! Something is very, very, very, broken in the GOP when that kind of thing is happening.

The GOP mystique: It’s a white thing

"In a country as large and diverse as ours, how is it that one of the two major political parties has become, in essence, a white people’s party?

Polls frequently note the overwhelming whiteness of the GOP, but they never quite explain it."

"The Pew Research Center did a poll last year that found: “While Republican gains inleaned party identification span nearly all subgroups of whites, they are particularly pronounced among the young and poor.” Another poll found that non-college-educated whites are flocking to the GOP."

"Thomas Edsall, a journalism professor at Columbia University, observes that Republican strategists are trying to unify white voters by creating an “us vs. them” racial conflict."

“While the subject of race and of the overwhelmingly white Republican primary electorate are never explicitly discussed by Republican candidates, the issue is subsumed in blatant anti-immigration rhetoric,” Edsall wrote in the New York Times in November.

And, of course, there is that black guy in the White House to blame."

"So while Wall Street rips off Main Street, Republicans are going around blaming African Americans and Hispanics (especially undocumented immigrants) for the pain and suffering of whites.

Republicans like to point out that about 90 percent of black voters are Democrats and that some of them don’t advance their beliefs or their interests by supporting the Democratic Party. Many black voters are social and fiscal conservatives, they say. There are black evangelicals; black voters who believe that illegal immigrants are taking American jobs; black voters who are opposed to gay marriage; and so forth. Yet they vote with the more liberal major party."

- The Washington Post

 

[nota bene]

The GOP mystique: It’s a white thing

"In a country as large and diverse as ours, how is it that one of the two major political parties has become, in essence, a white people’s party?

Polls frequently note the overwhelming whiteness of the GOP, but they never quite explain it."

"The Pew Research Center did a poll last year that found: “While Republican gains inleaned party identification span nearly all subgroups of whites, they are particularly pronounced among the young and poor.” Another poll found that non-college-educated whites are flocking to the GOP."

"Thomas Edsall, a journalism professor at Columbia University, observes that Republican strategists are trying to unify white voters by creating an “us vs. them” racial conflict."

“While the subject of race and of the overwhelmingly white Republican primary electorate are never explicitly discussed by Republican candidates, the issue is subsumed in blatant anti-immigration rhetoric,” Edsall wrote in the New York Times in November.

And, of course, there is that black guy in the White House to blame."

"So while Wall Street rips off Main Street, Republicans are going around blaming African Americans and Hispanics (especially undocumented immigrants) for the pain and suffering of whites.

Republicans like to point out that about 90 percent of black voters are Democrats and that some of them don’t advance their beliefs or their interests by supporting the Democratic Party. Many black voters are social and fiscal conservatives, they say. There are black evangelicals; black voters who believe that illegal immigrants are taking American jobs; black voters who are opposed to gay marriage; and so forth. Yet they vote with the more liberal major party."

- The Washington Post

Well, I think that's race-baiting crap.

 

[teamosil]

Well, I think that's race-baiting crap.

What is your explanation for the bizarrely white composition of the GOP?

 

[Catawba]

Well, I think that's race-baiting crap.

Please explain why then the GOP is taking this approach:

"So while Wall Street rips off Main Street, Republicans are going around blaming African Americans and Hispanics (especially undocumented immigrants) for the pain and suffering of whites."

 

[cpwill]

There is little doubt that the next ten days will see the wrath of the Wall Street wing come down heavy and hard upon the head of Gingrich. I suspect it will only cause the ugliness to be escalated on both sides and the GOP damaged from the war.

This is really turning out quite excellent for President Obama.

And if this does happen, the Obama campaign will be popping champagne.

hmm... how much did the protracted battle between Hillary and Obama help McCain?


All men are born equal, and he is best who attends the severest school.

 

[American]

Early states are early states, there's alot of time between now and the convention and with the risk of sounding premature given Gingrich's resurgance, Santorum and Paul are unlikely to gain any steam from here on in.

The problem we have is that Newt Gingrich of course will gain a bit of steam heading towards Florida, and Mitt Romney is probably in his campaign war room having a pretty hard discussion with his staff about low balling Gingrich on the whole marriage thing.

I mean to be honest it's pretty difficult all recent allegations aside, to say you're the party of family values and elect this guy as your nominee who says the following:



But is a two timed divorced, known profilic adulterer regardless of what the ex wife said last week.

If what you're suggesting occurs though, and it does come down to the wire in Tampa, we won't see a brokered convention, I think we'll see a broken convention, with massive infighting between Tea Party Conservatives, the Religious Right and the Moderates that could lead to a lot of ugly rangling and a candidate that will come from what I will analogize as a "broken home".

Oh I love speculation, it's fun.

No doubt you disagree that marriage is the core of civilization. Maybe the gays should give it up, it's obsolete. They're being stupid too, aren't they?

 

[American]

What is your explanation for the bizarrely white composition of the GOP?

Cain was white? Well to you he's an Uncle Tom, same thing.

 

[Camlon]

Dear god....

It's bad and I can understand why few minorities vote for the GOP, but not as bad as it looks. It can be down to 98.5 and it is certainly below 99.0, because blacks and others is 1% each.

In South Carolina most minorities are black, actually 27.9%. Very few blacks voted Republican and I expect white voters to be more active in the nomination. The other minorities is 7% of the population, and they vote 70% for Democrats and 30% for Republican approximately, and their participation is lower in the general election and probably even lower in the nomination.

However, you will find the same in the Democratic party, you will probably find most whites and some blacks. Not very many others.

 

[American]

It's bad and I can understand why few minorities vote for the GOP, but not as bad as it looks. It can be down to 98.5 and it is certainly below 99.0, because blacks and others is 1% each.

In South Carolina most minorities are black, actually 27.9%. Very few blacks voted Republican and I expect white voters to be more active in the nomination. The other minorities is 7% of the population, and they vote 70% for Democrats and 30% for Republican approximately, and their participation is lower in the general election and probably even lower in the nomination.

However, you will find the same in the Democratic party, you will probably find most whites and some blacks. Not very many others.

I'm not concerned at all. More blacks need to develop a set of principles that place the importance of work and honor over victimhood. This country wasn't built by people holding their hands out; but on a work ethic and a can-do spirit. A long as the Democratic Party is around, they'll continue to tell black people that they are worthless and unable to accomplish anything by themselves. This breeds dependency, which is what the Democratic Party is all about.