Will Hillary Clinton run in '08?

[Pacridge]

My problem with Hillary Clinton is simple....

Anyone who likes her for HER is, of course, free to have their own opinions.

But...

On a political scale, she has less experience than John Edwards did when he ran, and most pundits agreed that he hadn't been around long enough. Has she even proposed anything of importance in the Senate?

The two biggest talking points the Democratic Party had for John Kerry were his vast political experience and his military service....and then four years later they want someone with hardly ANY experience and NO military service? Somebody will have some 'splainin' to do...

I think the people who want Hillary in are more concerned with just sticking it to the Republican Party. It will be a moral victory and liberals will feel good about themselves for awhile, but when the honeymoon is over and things start hitting the crapper, I don't care who you are, you'll realize that your star stuck vote was for naught.

I think you're discounting the exp. she gained from being First Lady for eight years.

 

[cnredd]

I'm semi-discounting....No doubt she learned some things just by hanging around...just like bat boy might learn some things in the dugout; but that won't make him a baseball player.

The only three things I remember from her "First-ladyship" are....

1)She wrote a book
2)She pushed for a healthcare plan that failed miserably
3)She threw out an accusation of "a vast right wing conspiracy" when her husband was found guilty of lying to a federal grand jury.

If there was something she did as a First Lady on legislation, foreign policy or economic development, then that could be used as a positive for her campaign.

I just don't remember anything...Does anybody? Chime away...

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by cnredd:
The only three things I remember from her "First-ladyship" are....

1)She wrote a book
2)She pushed for a healthcare plan that failed miserably
3)She threw out an accusation of "a vast right wing conspiracy" when her husband was found guilty of lying to a federal grand jury.

Interesting how you notice Clinton's lie, but remain silent (or look the other way) when Bush lies to a nation that results in almost 1800 GI's losing there life.

 

[Fantasea]

Interesting how you notice Clinton's lie, but remain silent (or look the other way) when Bush lies to a nation that results in almost 1800 GI's losing there life.

In another forum, you made the accusation that the President told lies in his State of the Union address. However, you never once cited a specific quote which you identified as a lie and explained why you believed it was a lie.

Why not try it some time.

(However, you did furnish a lot of fuss and bluster.)

 

[dragonslayer]

AT her worst, hilary would automatically 100% better than Bush. :2wave:

 

[Youve Got To Be Kidding!]

I don't think that she is electable, and she knows it.

She is one of the most liked and hated at the same time.

And Bush is not? Oh sorry your right. Bush had Diebold on his side. Its such a pitty that people dont care. I dont know why the senetate and congress even show up for work. I feel about as much hate as passionatly as a jew would have when he was in a gas chamber or a railcar for the republican party, bush, and you.

I do not know why people are so ignorant and blind. What gets me the most is the rednecks who talk about patriotism the most are really communists. They are just to stupid to know what kind of government they have, or are asking for (and cheering on).

 

[Fantasea]

And Bush is not? Oh sorry your right. Bush had Diebold on his side. Its such a pitty that people dont care. I dont know why the senetate and congress even show up for work. I feel about as much hate as passionatly as a jew would have when he was in a gas chamber or a railcar for the republican party, bush, and you.

I do not know why people are so ignorant and blind. What gets me the most is the rednecks who talk about patriotism the most are really communists. They are just to stupid to know what kind of government they have, or are asking for (and cheering on).

Your post definitely qualifies as a 'rant'.

It is loud, crude, full of unfounded accusations, and quite boring to read.

 

[Youve Got To Be Kidding!]

Do you even know what "Dieboldt" is?
Do you not think bush is loved & HATED?

I stated my personal opinion of him.
And of peoples ignorance for not caring about their rights.

 

[cnredd]

Do you even know what "Dieboldt" is?
Do you not think bush is loved & HATED?

I stated my personal opinion of him.
And of peoples ignorance for not caring about their rights.

Diebold is the company that created an electronic voting system that proved GWB was re-elected fairly, and you don't want to believe the results, so you whine.....and whine....and whine....

But here's the diff,

GWB WAS re-elected...The jury is still out on Hillary's first attempt. Your bitchin' about Diebold is a weak attempt to negate vauge's opinion, and that is beneath debate.

I don't think that she is electable, and she knows it...That's the quote; leaving it open-ended to say he may be wrong....For you to shut down the debate with a third-party qualifier, is sad.

 

[SMIRKnCHIMP]

Yes, I do think she will run in 2008, but she will not win the election. The United States is well aware that Hillary is incompetent of running the country. Even if she was capable of being a good president, who wants a crazy feminist as our commander and chief anyway?

I'll take a Super intelligent Feminist over the former Drunk, coked-up, now-bible thumping MORON who now occupies the WH.


Rudy and McCAin can not garner the party nomination.........because they ant GODLY enough.

Who among the bible thumpers can beat her.......Allen , Frist....haha hillary would kick their arse.....

 

[superskippy]

Hmmm, you think she could whup anyone for President yet from the News we get over here she dropped 13% in her senate race to a nearly unheard of canidate. She need's to be able to defend her title as Senator in her homestate in a fairly Liberal part of the country to consider running for President. Because right now honestly she would lose, I have no doubt about it. She need's a few more year's to develop solid ground and move away from the person she is branded as, namingly as a Feminist, and a Liberal, and also as a total bitch. She might stand a chance at taking the Presidency if she wait's a few more years and develops herself as a politician. After a term as Senator in a fairly Liberal state she is not ready to run for President nor do I think are the people of America ready to vote for her.

 

[akyron]

Who among the bible thumpers can beat her.......Allen , Frist....haha hillary would kick their arse.....

Pretty much anyone.
I hope she gets the nomination and runs.

 

[Windy]

I'll take a Super intelligent Feminist over the former Drunk, coked-up, now-bible thumping MORON who now occupies the WH.

There is no such thing as a ''Super intelligent Feminist''... if there is one its a freak of nature :lol:

 

[dragonslayer]

AT her worst, hilary would automatically be 100% better than Bush.

Since Bush is such crappy antiamerican president, and too elect another right winger Greed and Death monger would mean end of America, We need Hilary or Bill , or any proAmerican Democrat liberal as president.

At he best she might save America from the devastation caused by Bush, at home and abroad.

Bush is truly a psychopath without conscience and morals. His actions seem to say anything for greed and profit.

We need a Liberal pro American president that loves America and want to promote and try to protect America. We need a Democratic President that will fiight the war on terror and not be one of the major death bringers in the world., in the world.

 

[Fantasea]

AT her worst, hilary would automatically be 100% better than Bush.

Since Bush is such crappy antiamerican president, and too elect another right winger Greed and Death monger would mean end of America, We need Hilary or Bill , or any proAmerican Democrat liberal as president.

At he best she might save America from the devastation caused by Bush, at home and abroad.

Bush is truly a psychopath without conscience and morals. His actions seem to say anything for greed and profit.

We need a Liberal pro American president that loves America and want to promote and try to protect America. We need a Democratic President that will fiight the war on terror and not be one of the major death bringers in the world., in the world.

You just had what you're describing. However, while in office, he managed to get screwed, blewed, sued, and had his license to practice law suspended. He is also related to Hillary; by a marriage of political convenience.

 

[ElGringo17]

Hilary is a Neonazi-lib radical leftist Fascist from the same mold as Bill....

She would be a disaster for this country.....first she would try to infringe upon your 2nd Amendment rights like left wigners do, then she would engage i9n free speech control, like left wigners do, then she would try to get homos to be able to marry....then the left would declare open season on your little boys by letting homosexual pedophiles throw on boy Scout uniforms and "cruise" the little kids in the pup tents, then there would be every financial scandal you could think of....with lots of 'suicide" and secret mruders to coverup...then in response to the war on terror, liek her idiot husband, she would lob a few cruise missiles way too late into an old al quaeda camp then go back to business as usual with the U.S. citizens as sitting ducks.....

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by cnredd:
Diebold is the company that created an electronic voting system that proved GWB was re-elected fairly, and you [Youve Got To Be Kidding!] don't want to believe the results, so you whine.....and whine....and whine....

But here's the diff[erence],

GWB WAS re-elected...The jury is still out on Hillary's first attempt. Your bitchin' about Diebold is a weak attempt to negate vauge's opinion, and that is beneath debate...

Not if you object to a Republican campaign chairman running a bi-partisan election in Ohio that favored your candidate when all exit polls indicated the opposite. Electronic voting machines with no paper trail to verify the accuracy of the votes and integrity of the counters is more than enough reason to make a comment regarding Diebold.

Carter/Baker Report can't face how the GOP stole America's 2004 election & is rigging 2008
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman September 20, 2005

...in our own preliminary report, we have unearthed more than 180 bullet points dealing with exactly how the GOP did steal the presidency in Ohio. A "do everything" Republican assault on democracy used intimidation, fraud, vote theft, computer rigging, machine distribution manipulation, a fake Homeland security alert, trashing of provisional ballots, denial of a recount and dozens more "dirty tricks" to produce a 118,775 "official" margin for Bush that was an utter fiction.

Exit polls in nine swing states showed Kerry a clear winner as late as 12:21 am on election night. Nationwide exit polls showed him with a 1.5 million vote margin in the popular vote.

But somehow, against all statistical probability, Bush wound up with a popular vote victory of nearly 3.5 million. And somehow, against all statistical probability, he carried Ohio and three other states (Iowa, Nevada and New Mexico) where he had been the clear loser in the exit polls. Ohio alone was sufficient to give him a second term, just as Florida had been in 2000.

Such an outcome is beyond implausible -- unless you saw how the Rove-Blackwell machine stole the vote.

The tactics the GOP perfected in Ohio 2004 are now being honed for re-use in 2008. Neither Al Gore nor John Kerry nor the core of the Democratic Party has been willing to face the reality that elections in the United States are all but over. This latest wimp report from the Carter-Baker whitewash commission does no better.

Unless our electoral system gets a total top-to-bottom revamp by an informed public willing to deal with the systematic poisoning of American democracy, there is no reason to bother printing the ballots or plugging in the voting machines in 2008.

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1462

Originally posted by cnredd:
I don't think that she is electable, and she knows it...That's the quote; leaving it open-ended to say he may be wrong....For you to shut down the debate with a third-party qualifier, is sad

What we know, about what she knows, can only come from her. Whether he is wrong or not can still be debated. But we do know that you are wrong about the comment shutting down the debate. Just count the posts (7) after yours, if you want the evidence for that.

 

[SKILMATIC]

Re:

Will Hillary Clinton run in '08?

I am praying to God that she doesnt. I think McCain will run and hope powell does. Hey mabe Nader will run again. But who knows what and if hilary will run? I think her image is screwed from her husband. But who knows. Every liberal in the world will think this is the best thing since sliced bread. :lol:

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by SKILMATIC:
I am praying to God that she doesnt. I think McCain will run and hope powell does. Hey mabe Nader will run again. But who knows what and if hilary will run? I think her image is screwed from her husband. But who knows. Every liberal in the world will think this is the best thing since sliced bread

Don't tell me your one of those people who think making love is done AFTER your married?

 

[cnredd]

freepress.org?!?!?:rofl :rofl :rofl

You posted in a thread that hasn't been used for a month to mention "freepress.org"?

Just when we think your lack of credibility has reached its zenith, you go and do this...

I encourage everyone to go to http://www.freepress.org and relish in the drivel...

Bring doggie-bags.:2wave:

 

[SKILMATIC]

Don't tell me your one of those people who think making love is done AFTER your married?

O hell no are you kidding me? I would rather get into a girls panties before I do anything else, :lol: .

You forget i am a youngin who is literally full of life. I can fill milk jugs :lol: .

Look I have my beleifs just like anyone else. God made me with a penis and God made women with vaginas and we should use them to our hearts content.

 

[Inuyasha]

I don't think either Clinton or Rice will run iin 08. They both know that America is not ready to accept a woman president and even less inclined to pick a black woman president.

 

[SKILMATIC]

I don't think either Clinton or Rice will run iin 08. They both know that America is not ready to accept a woman president and even less inclined to pick a black woman president.

I have to agree with you there.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by cnredd:
freepress.org?!?!?

You posted in a thread that hasn't been used for a month to mention "freepress.org"?

Just when we think your lack of credibility has reached its zenith, you go and do this...

I encourage everyone to go to http://www.freepress.org and relish in the drivel...

Bring doggie-bags

I hate to burst your bubble, but your dislike for a particular source is NOT evidence that the story was false. So you have not posted any proof to the contrary. If you can't do that, then maybe the story must be true. If you can't prove something false with facts, then its got to be true. If your rebut doesn't fit, you must acquit.

 

[SKILMATIC]

I hate to burst your bubble, but your dislike for a particular source is NOT evidence that the story was false. So you have not posted any proof to the contrary. If you can't do that, then maybe the story must be true. If you can't prove something false with facts, then its got to be true. If your rebut doesn't fit, you must acquit.

Are you serious? This argument can go both ways.