Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

[americanwoman]

Have you not read the Bible? It doesn't mention anything about aliens.

Read the Book of Ezekiel.

Either them some aliens or dude is eating some major shrooms.

 

[Singularity]

If aliens were real and they attacked Earth, they'd conquer us and put us all in cages. And when they'd come by my cage, i'd say, "You aliens think your civilization is so much more advanced than ours, but really, which one of us is more civilized? You watching me in this cage, or me with my pants down trying to urinate on you?"

 

[Sanitas]

Since they developed completely differently than us, they most likely do not have the idea of peace, love, or war. We are humanizing any aliens far too much.

 

[Black Dog]

What makes you so sure?

Nothing really. I figure if life was out there, we would have at least some kind of definitive clue by now.

 

[Kandahar]

Nothing really. I figure if life was out there, we would have at least some kind of definitive clue by now.

How do you figure? It would probably be far away...and might not have any interest in us anyway.

How much of the universe have we actually explored? For that matter, how much of our own solar system have we actually explored?

 

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[Black Dog]

How do you figure? It would probably be far away...and might not have any interest in us anyway.

So what? No evidence, no proof, no aliens.

How much of the universe have we actually explored? For that matter, how much of our own solar system have we actually explored?

No evidence, no proof, no aliens.

 

[Kandahar]

So what? No evidence, no proof, no aliens.



No evidence, no proof, no aliens.

That's a rather closed-minded attitude. This is very different than, say, Bigfoot, where that reasoning would be perfectly valid. In this case, we know that we have explored almost NONE of our universe. We know that there are a huge number of worlds. And we know that there is no fundamental biological reason that life could NOT have evolved on a suitable world elsewhere. It would be like living one's entire life in a room, and concluding that nothing outside of the room existed.

I'm not saying aliens definitely exist, since there is no evidence as you said. I think that the overwhelming probability is that they do exist, but there's no evidence yet. But you can't just conclusively say "We are alone" either. There is no evidence to support that claim.

 

[Goshin]

That's a rather closed-minded attitude.....In this case, we know that we have explored almost NONE of our universe. We know that there are a huge number of worlds. And we know that there is no fundamental biological reason that life could NOT have evolved on a suitable world elsewhere. It would be like living one's entire life in a room, and concluding that nothing outside of the room existed.
I'm not saying aliens definitely exist, since there is no evidence as you said. I think that the overwhelming probability is that they do exist, but there's no evidence yet. But you can't just conclusively say "We are alone" either. There is no evidence to support that claim.

Kandahar, you have to stop that. Having to agree with you upsets my digestion. :mrgreen:


But, when you're right, you're right. Our exploration of the universe is still in the "dugout canoe" stage, we know almost nothing of the ocean and the lands beyond our little lagoon.

OTOH there is that paradox...the Fermi Paradox isn't it? The question being "If there is intelligent life out there, why haven't they contacted us, why haven't we seen any evidence of their existence?" We have been looking, with SETI and so on...but then again the universe is huge and SETI is limited. We assume that hydrogen-wavelength RF would be the universal calling frequency, but we know so little of interstellar space there could be reasons why coherent RF signals indicating intelligence can't be detected from interstellar distances.

At this point it is all little more than speculation of course.


G.

 

[Black Dog]

That's a rather closed-minded attitude. This is very different than, say, Bigfoot, where that reasoning would be perfectly valid. In this case, we know that we have explored almost NONE of our universe. We know that there are a huge number of worlds. And we know that there is no fundamental biological reason that life could NOT have evolved on a suitable world elsewhere. It would be like living one's entire life in a room, and concluding that nothing outside of the room existed.

I spent years in astronomy classes and to this day still explore the sky with my 8" Newtonian reflector. Nothing closed minded here. If I see or get some real evidence I will change my view. Until the time as real evidence is brought forward; a sound, picture or something I will maintain my view based on fact and evidence.

Heck I am a Christian, and I have seen more evidence of God than aliens. It is anecdotal for certain, but I have seen it with my own eyes, aliens nothing.

I'm not saying aliens definitely exist, since there is no evidence as you said. I think that the overwhelming probability is that they do exist, but there's no evidence yet. But you can't just conclusively say "We are alone" either. There is no evidence to support that claim.

We are alone, no evidence exist to suggest otherwise. Probability backed up by 0, gives you a sum of 0.

So in conclusion no evidence, no aliens.

 

[creativedreams]

So what? No evidence, no proof, no aliens.



No evidence, no proof, no aliens.

It is safe to say no one in your bloodline would have anticipated the discovery of the atom....

 

[Lita456]

Looking at all living creatures on our own planet almost everything alive attacks and kills. (Even many plants somehow developed different defense mechanisms). So it is my belief that the highest probability is that aliens wont be a bit friendly.

Likely not in our lifetime but future generations may see this as a reality.

I would like to hear if it's yes or no or we are alone from you and logical reasons.

Interesting.

If we are to believe all the reports that have been made public regarding sightings of UFO's etc., none of them have ever been hostile, again, if we are to believe the reports.

 

[Black Dog]

It is safe to say no one in your bloodline would have anticipated the discovery of the atom....

Ad-hom, great reply.

PS We had evidence it may exist, unlike aliens. :roll:

 

[creativedreams]

Interesting.

If we are to believe all the reports that have been made public regarding sightings of UFO's etc., none of them have ever been hostile, again, if we are to believe the reports.

Even ants send out scouts to find new territory to take over...

 

[Lita456]

Even ants send out scouts to find new territory to take over...

If any alien was to take over territory here, it would have been done already....just my opinion of course.

 

[creativedreams]

If any alien was to take over territory here, it would have been done already....just my opinion of course.

Some astrophysicist speculate that because of the enormous size of the universe and the almost infinite possibilities of types of life forms out there that it is likely that some species are expanding like a bubble consuming and utilizing every available resource that is increasingly within their reach. They only have the proliferation of their own species in mind.
Like a colony of ants taking over the jungle floor in the insect world.
We are just luckly we are not close to one of these expanding bubbles...yet.

In respect to not having seen any aliens yet their is still plenty of time.
The lifespan of the human race is only a fraction of a blink of an eye in terms of the lifespan of the universe.

 

[Black Dog]

In respect to not having seen any aliens yet their is still plenty of time.
The lifespan of the human race is only a fraction of a blink of an eye in terms of the lifespan of the universe.

I agree, but I also feel we should have seen or heard something, anything.

I just don't think anything is out there anymore. Not in the living sense anyway.

 

[creativedreams]

PS We had evidence it may exist, unlike aliens. :roll:

The same math is also saying the universe has literally millions of advance civilizations.

 

[creativedreams]

I agree, but I also feel we should have seen or heard something, anything.

I just don't think anything is out there anymore. Not in the living sense anyway.

Earth's solar system is in the boondocks compared to the billions of others in relation to each other....we are likely very lucky for this....so far

 

[Kandahar]

I agree, but I also feel we should have seen or heard something, anything.

What makes you think so? Humans have only had the technological capability to detect extraterrestrial signals for about 60 years or so (assuming they use simple technology that we could detect, which would be a big - and probably incorrect - assumption). The universe is 13.7 billion years old.

 

[Black Dog]

The same math is also saying the universe has literally millions of advance civilizations.

What same math is saying this? Or are you talking about "speculating" which is not the same thing.

We think black holes exist even though we have never seen one. Evidence exist that can be tested, proved and disproved. This is the same for the atom. This is not true in the search for life in or outside our solar system. Not even a simple living microbe has been found in space.

 

[Lita456]

Some astrophysicist speculate that because of the enormous size of the universe and the almost infinite possibilities of types of life forms out there that it is likely that some species are expanding like a bubble consuming and utilizing every available resource that is increasingly within their reach. They only have the proliferation of their own species in mind.
Like a colony of ants taking over the jungle floor in the insect world.
We are just luckly we are not close to one of these expanding bubbles...yet.

In respect to not having seen any aliens yet their is still plenty of time.
The lifespan of the human race is only a fraction of a blink of an eye in terms of the lifespan of the universe.

So you don't believe in any UFO sighting report?

 

[Black Dog]

What makes you think so? Humans have only had the technological capability to detect extraterrestrial signals for about 60 years or so (assuming they use simple technology that we could detect, which would be a big - and probably incorrect - assumption). The universe is 13.7 billion years old.

13.7 billion years olds and nothing.

Sorry but I will remain skeptical.

 

[creativedreams]

I agree, but I also feel we should have seen or heard something, anything.

Just because they don't litter a campsite doesn't mean they were never there.

History shows that many ancient civilizations looked to the stars for life.

They even built miles long markers that can ONLY be recognized from the sky...

 

[Kandahar]

13.7 billion years olds and nothing.

My point is that we've only been looking for about 60 years...the blink of an eye.

If I walk into a zoo and don't see an exotic animal within the first millisecond that I'm there, I don't assume that the zoo is a fraud and there aren't any animals.