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Why You Should Respect Religion

Stace said:
Not so much, but thanks for playing.

If your husband knew you were looking at pictures of hot young studs on the intraweb he might be pissed.

BTW I'm just spamming this thread now. Wow work sucks. Someone relieve my boredom with a good flame or something. Say you hate god. I dunno. Give me something to yell at you for.
 
FreeThinker said:
If your husband knew you were looking at pictures of hot young studs on the intraweb he might be pissed.

BTW I'm just spamming this thread now. Wow work sucks. Someone relieve my boredom with a good flame or something. Say you hate god. I dunno. Give me something to yell at you for.

Not really. It's not like he doesn't have porn on his computer or anything.

Besides, I didn't see any "hot young studs".

I can't say that I hate God, because it's hard to hate something you don't believe in.
 
Stace said:
Not really. It's not like he doesn't have porn on his computer or anything.

Woah! Now I know why you hate men.

DesperateHouseWife said:
Besides, I didn't see any "hot young studs".

Denial is the highest form of flattery. er... wait... maybe I got that quote wrong.

GodlessCommunist said:
I can't say that I hate God, because it's hard to hate something you don't believe in.

I for one absolutley hate Santa Clause. He offends me greatly. So much so that I will take my daughter out of public school to prevent her from painting macaroni pictures of him.
 
tecoyah said:
Sorry....uh....Dude, She is most definately....Hotter. Period.

I second, third, and fourth that!
 
tecoyah said:
Sorry....uh....Dude, She is most definately....Hotter. Period.

You know kissing her e-ass isn't going to get you laid. Period.
 
FreeThinker said:
I for one absolutley hate Santa Clause. He offends me greatly. So much so that I will take my daughter out of public school to prevent her from painting macaroni pictures of him.

I seriously hope you're joking. But from your picture you looked rather young and rather ugly too. So I doubt you have any kids for both reasons.
 
hipsterdufus said:
It's funny that you use the word "tree hugger" since Jesus undoubtedly favored stewardship of the earth. I'm starting to think you're a troll...

Nah. Jesus got mad at an olive tree that wasn't bearing fruit, so he cursed it and it died. Never mind that it wasn't the season for olives, he murdered a tree out of hand.
 
FreeThinker said:
Woah! Now I know why you hate men.

Whoa! Now I can see how really unintelligent you can be. You really shouldn't try and make flip remarks like that, it doesn't become you. Leave it to the experts, ok?



Denial is the highest form of flattery. er... wait... maybe I got that quote wrong.

I'll say. Sorry, sweetie, but you don't have anything that I find attractive.



I for one absolutley hate Santa Clause. He offends me greatly. So much so that I will take my daughter out of public school to prevent her from painting macaroni pictures of him.

Well, if that's how you feel, you have more serious problems than we all thought.
 
FreeThinker said:
http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/archive/2004-11/a-2004-11-01-1-1.cfm

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/...mic Study of Islam, Religion, and Middle East

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=islam+condemn+terrorism&spell=1

You idiots would have me prove that the world is round with references and quotes from scientists and scholars, and if I didn't you would refuse to respond to my statement.

It's very easy to sit back in a debate and demand mountains of information, information about facts you KNOW to be true. What a half assed cop out.

As I'm sure all the moderators can see, I'm sitting on a dialup connection right now. The only time I ever visit this site is when I am bored at work. The connection is slow as hell and it takes ages to load webpages, especially this one with all the ad banners.

Debate me by saying what you think, not using google to formulate an opinion.

Make your own words and stop stealing others.




eh, one more thing. One person was bitching about me turning this into a partisan debate. NEWS FLASH: democrats and republicans have opposing viewpoints on almost every aspect of human life INCLUDING religion. I didn't turn this into a partisan debate, it was one from the beginning.

In a good debate you say what you think and back it up with proof.
Sorry you don't see it that way. :2wave:

Thank you for the links you provided. I had the opportunity to meet Jordan's Queen Noor (aka Lisa Halaby of America) last year. She is a wonderful woman! Remember that her own husband, King Hussein, was assasinated by the very people I speak of for being too Western. King Hussein also witnessed the assassination of his grandfather.

In the article, Queen Noor talks about "moderate muslim clerics" and her points are taken from those people. Great. I agree. The problem is, that the vast majority of clerics in the Middle East are not moderate. As I said before, the mindset that we are fighting is more akin to Christian thought during the Inquisition. Students are being taught to hate Americans in their schools and their places of worship.

Your second, third and fourth links are statements from AmericanMuslim scholars. Again - they're moderates, and we're not fighting Americans or moderates. No problem there. I agree.

In order for the war on terror to really end, the thought process of moderate Islam has to make its way into the teachings of the people we are fighting against. So far, that's not happening.
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Nah. Jesus got mad at an olive tree that wasn't bearing fruit, so he cursed it and it died. Never mind that it wasn't the season for olives, he murdered a tree out of hand.

Are you serious?

So now your going to use Christianity as the rational to destroy the planet based on an Olive tree story? :(
 
hipsterdufus said:
Are you serious?

So now your going to use Christianity as the rational to destroy the planet based on an Olive tree story?


You're kidding me, right?

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

(BTW, I recommended sterlizing the planet outside of North America on September 11th, 2001.)
 
Apostle13 said:
I was just curious Stace are you an atheist or rather agnostic?
Cause you know I just can't click this link without major confirmation; :cool: "There really is a God!"

Any bikini shots..?:2razz:

I'm agnostic.

And actually, there are bikini shots, but you animals will have to wait. I'm working on making a page on my website for my modeling shots.
 
FreeThinker said:
I for one absolutley hate Santa Clause. He offends me greatly. So much so that I will take my daughter out of public school to prevent her from painting macaroni pictures of him.

Stace said:
Well, if that's how you feel, you have more serious problems than we all thought.

Wow. Just wow. How anyone that tries to debate politics could be this ignorant of current affairs is far beyond me. From all the big words and long sentences you used I thought you might have a brain. Damn, fooled again.

I'm going to walk you through this slowly, so that you might understand my reference and possibly retort it with a worthwhile comeback.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=12984

There once was a man named Michael Newdow. Mr. Newdow decided that he didn't like the words "under god" in the pledge that his daughter recited at school each morning, so he sued the school for forcing religious dogma on his daughter.

Once you read that story and possibly even make a connection with what I said, possibly I can get a worthwhile response?
 
FreeThinker said:
Wow. Just wow. How anyone that tries to debate politics could be this ignorant of current affairs is far beyond me. From all the big words and long sentences you used I thought you might have a brain. Damn, fooled again.

I'm going to walk you through this slowly, so that you might understand my reference and possibly retort it with a worthwhile comeback.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=12984

There once was a man named Michael Newdow. Mr. Newdow decided that he didn't like the words "under god" in the pledge that his daughter recited at school each morning, so he sued the school for forcing religious dogma on his daughter.

Once you read that story and possibly even make a connection with what I said, possibly I can get a worthwhile response?

Let me see if I can explain this.

You were quite obviously trying to make a joke about First Amendment stuff, probably making a little play on that whole "War on Christmas" thing, which I think is a crock of ****. (The War on Christmas bit, not First Amendment rights as a whole. There is no "war" on Christmas. But there's plenty of other threads where I've stated my opinion on that particular issue.)

My statement still stands.
 
Well, my personal take on Michael Newdow is that he was focusing on something that wasn't really that important anyway. I doubt if reciting the pledge and saying, "under God" is causing psychological damage to anyone.
 
George_Washington said:
Well, my personal take on Michael Newdow is that he was focusing on something that wasn't really that important anyway. I doubt if reciting the pledge and saying, "under God" is causing psychological damage to anyone.

Exactly. It is just a tradition based on history. When I say the pledge or swear on the Bible it doesn't mean that I believe in Jesus or a god. It means I respect the traditions of the past.

Taking any references to god out of our government's traditions is just foolishly trying to erase history. Religion was a big part of what made America, America. It was the entire reason people came to the new world.

To deny that is to deny history.
 
George_Washington said:
Well, my personal take on Michael Newdow is that he was focusing on something that wasn't really that important anyway. I doubt if reciting the pledge and saying, "under God" is causing psychological damage to anyone.
He's not going away... I just heard recently he is starting it all over again. Something to the effect that he lied about his daughter. Turns out she is Christian and her mother as well. She was "not offended" (under God) as he stated in his initial complaint. Based on that he was struck down by the 9th District. So now he has assembled a coalition of atheistic type parents and filing a new motion.

Stace said:
And actually, there are bikini shots, but you animals will have to wait. I'm working on making a page on my website for my modeling shots.
... :smile:
 
Then again, why should I respect religion?

Focusing on Christianity for a moment, for the last few weeks I've had to asure my six year old daughter that she's not going to a awful place when she dies, that there's no Heaven to reward people that believe in God, and other such nonsense superstitious people pollute their kids' minds with.

Some Christians also demand that basic, proven, science be rejected because it refutes their book of mythology. Regardless that not all Christians are as dense as the most obnoxious fundamentalists, the fact remains always that the basis of their religion is a book we know contains numerous falsehoods.

Judaism is based on a variant of that same book, ergo it's cuckoo, too.

Similarly, Islam is also whacked, and then there's that 72 virgin nonsense of theirs. Virginity is much over-rated and I'll take an enthusiastic experienced woman over some broad hung up on her hymen every time.

All the reincarnation religions? The basic premise seems hokey.

Let's face the truth, gang. Religions are invented by man, every single one of them, for a limited number of reasons.

1) To provide an explanation for the unknown, from thunder and lightning to the wind to the origins of life and what happens after life ends. Lacking the honesty to say "we don't have a clue", all religions spew answers that make people feel good without having any basis at all.

2) To control the attitudes and behaviors of the tribe. If you don't beleive in exactly the right way, if you don't believe at all, most religions permit you to be executed, ostracized, or otherwise punished. Historically the State runs the Church, for just this reason.

3) To provide a living for people who dislike actually doing something productive. It's always been a refuge for con-men.

The better question is why should religion be respected at all.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Then again, why should I respect religion?

Focusing on Christianity for a moment, for the last few weeks I've had to assure my six year old daughter that she's not going to a awful place when she dies, that there's no Heaven to reward people that believe in God, and other such nonsense superstitious people pollute their kids' minds with.

Some Christians also demand that basic, proven, science be rejected because it refutes their book of mythology. Regardless that not all Christians are as dense as the most obnoxious fundamentalists, the fact remains always that the basis of their religion is a book we know contains numerous falsehoods.

Judaism is based on a variant of that same book, ergo it's cuckoo, too.

Similarly, Islam is also whacked, and then there's that 72 virgin nonsense of theirs. Virginity is much over-rated and I'll take an enthusiastic experienced woman over some broad hung up on her hymen every time.

All the reincarnation religions? The basic premise seems hokey.

Let's face the truth, gang. Religions are invented by man, every single one of them, for a limited number of reasons.

1) To provide an explanation for the unknown, from thunder and lightning to the wind to the origins of life and what happens after life ends. Lacking the honesty to say "we don't have a clue", all religions spew answers that make people feel good without having any basis at all.

2) To control the attitudes and behaviors of the tribe. If you don't beleive in exactly the right way, if you don't believe at all, most religions permit you to be executed, ostracized, or otherwise punished. Historically the State runs the Church, for just this reason.

3) To provide a living for people who dislike actually doing something productive. It's always been a refuge for con-men.

The better question is why should religion be respected at all.

While that all seems a bit harsh...And well, I guess you think you got it all figured.
I will agree in part that religion is highly overrated and at least some are outright stupid. I typically always take a stand against religion. However, I do believe in God, in the biblical accordance. I see and advocate Him as being a personal God. I am neither weak-minded, poor, or in need of a crutch. Heaven is a real place, and believing not in hell won't make it any less hotter for you when you get there.
...And while I don't much respect religion, I do respect individual choice.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
1) To provide an explanation for the unknown, from thunder and lightning to the wind to the origins of life and what happens after life ends. Lacking the honesty to say "we don't have a clue", all religions spew answers that make people feel good without having any basis at all.

2) To control the attitudes and behaviors of the tribe. If you don't beleive in exactly the right way, if you don't believe at all, most religions permit you to be executed, ostracized, or otherwise punished. Historically the State runs the Church, for just this reason.

3) To provide a living for people who dislike actually doing something productive. It's always been a refuge for con-men.

The better question is why should religion be respected at all.


How about to give people a reason to live a moral life in violent times? Why did anyone living in a tribe far from the rule of law not just rape all the women they wanted, killed anyone they liked, and take what they could by force?

Oh yeah... that whole religion thing. A man says to another man "don't kill your neighbor because I said so". The other man responds "why should I"?

A man says to another man "don't kill your neighbor". The other man responds "why should I?" The first man responds: "because it is the will of God, the king of kings, and he will be your judge in the afterlife".

Which is the more compelling argument?

Liberals forget that there wasn't always a friendly police officer a phone call away. The old times were horrible and lawless. In many cases the ONLY reason to act in an ethical manner was religious code.

Religion gave us a reason to act like human beings in a time when we were still animals. If you refuse to see that you are either:

1. An idiot.
2. In denial.
3. Rebelling against your parents.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Akhbar.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Judaism is based on a variant of that same book, ergo it's cuckoo, too.
......Its time to play, "YOU DON'T KNOW JACK"....

Where you even aware that Judaism existed before Christianity? That the "variant" of the book is actually the Original and that the Christian's are the ones with the "variant" of the book? Do you know ANYTHING about Judaism?

I didn't think so.
 
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