Why White Supremacists are idiots - Associate themselves with Nazi Movement?

[OxymoronP]

:rofl

Oh my god that was a total guess on my part? haha cool :2razz:

:lol:Good guess, did you think it was me? I am ruggedly handsome, but I wouldnt be able to pulloff an Achilles role dont have the 6 pack for it.

 

[kaya'08]

:lol:Good guess, did you think it was me? I am ruggedly handsome, but I wouldnt be able to pulloff an Achilles role dont have the 6 pack for it.

Actually yeah i did. And you know sometimes when you see a picture of a man on someones avatar for prolonged periods and you haven't seen that face before on the avatar, when you think of that user you imagine them to look like that. Thats pretty much how i imagine you when i think "Oxymoron".

 

[OxymoronP]

Actually yeah i did. And you know sometimes when you see a picture of a man on someones avatar for prolonged periods and you haven't seen that face before on the avatar, when you think of that user you imagine them to look like that. Thats pretty much how i imagine you when i think "Oxymoron".

True enough, my large British flag buddy .

 

[kaya'08]

True enough, my large British flag buddy .

Lol ive got a picture up of me on my profile gallerly if your so interested. :lol:

 

[kaya'08]

(This Is England, 2008)

Initially here in Britain where it pretty much all started, the White Supremacist movement wasn't racist, but it just turned stale and violent afterwards; especially in the Margaret Thatcher Falkland days.

Caught on camera in the UK.

American prisons. I dont think there cause for concern as much as they used to be; especially here in Britain, there numbers have been dramatically reduced over the years.

 

[Gardener]

Why do White Supremacists associate themselves with Hitler?

I think this one is just pissed because his twin brother keeps getting all the attention.

 

[Gardener]

(This Is England, 2008)

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Were I to guess, I'd say these blokes are more likely anti racist skinheads.

The ska stylings don't say hardcore racist to me.

 

[kaya'08]

Were I to guess, I'd say these blokes are more likely anti racist skinheads.

The ska stylings don't say hardcore racist to me.

Umm considering there's a black dude next to them, yeah. :lol:

 

[mikhail]

I dont really understand the whole thing of people saying they have pride inthings like races etc.Pride denouts somekind of personnel influence on a person you can take pride in like your child or a football team you manage etc.

They can admire someone but you cant take pride in them.The need to put this pride thing in is so they can be personnely reflected in their glory.

 

[OxymoronP]

I dont really understand the whole thing of people saying they have pride inthings like races etc.Pride denouts somekind of personnel influence on a person you can take pride in like your child or a football team you manage etc.

You can have pride in your race because it is basically an extended family. Unless you mean to tell me you shouldnt have pride in your family.

 

[kaya'08]

You can have pride in your race because it is basically an extended family. Unless you mean to tell me you shouldnt have pride in your family.

Im proud to be white for the sake of being white. Not in any particular sense. I may not be white white, im Southern European white (well im pale and have dirty blonde hair but unsure about the descending place of my ancestors, probably western Europe somewhere), but its white nonetheless, and the white race has achieved many feats. For example, playing a major part in the establishment of the free world (alongside other races, of course). There's many things to be proud of. But really being white doesn't mean anything, cause when the sh1t hits the fan, its your nation and your countrymen that matters, because the white man kills the white man in war and so this whole "white pride world wide", we are a white brotherhood crap is meaningless.

 

[OxymoronP]

Not in any particular sense. I may not be white white, im Southern European white (well im pale and have dirty blonde hair but unsure about the descending place of my ancestors, probably western Europe somewhere), but its white nonetheless, and the white race has achieved many feats. For example, playing a major part in the establishment of the free world (alongside other races, of course). There's many things to be proud of. But really being white doesn't mean anything, cause when the sh1t hits the fan, its your nation and your countrymen that matters, because the white man kills the white man in war and so this whole "white pride world wide", we are a white brotherhood crap is meaningless.

White pride is dumb, where as Anglo/Saxon Pride, or Polish pride is another matter.

 

[kaya'08]

White pride is dumb, where as Anglo/Saxon Pride, or Polish pride is another matter.

Anglo-Saxon pride is crap aswell. In this day and age, how many Britons, even those who have been here for centuries, are of Anglo-Saxon descent? Perhaps a high proportion many centuries ago, but not any more. I know for a fact we are in the majority white, but i cant say we in the majority Anglo-Saxon. Otherwise hell, we'd be rallying with the Americans and the Aussies screaming "Anglo Saxon pride world wide!!".

 

[Hatuey]

Were I to guess, I'd say these blokes are more likely anti racist skinheads.

The ska stylings don't say hardcore racist to me.

What the hell is New Coup For You doing in England?

 

[mikhail]

You can have pride in your race because it is basically an extended family. Unless you mean to tell me you shouldnt have pride in your family.

No you have to be personally involved with someone to be proud of them.Im not disapointed in Hitler it has nothing to do with me.

 

[Gardener]

What the hell is New Coup For You doing in England?

Nailed it!!

 

[stevenb]

Being proud of the color of your skin.. (which you don't choose at child-birth) is a ****ing retarded notion.

 

[OxymoronP]

No you have to be personally involved with someone to be proud of them.Im not disapointed in Hitler it has nothing to do with me.

Says who? You arent proud of your countrymen who get gold medals in the olympics?

 

[Hatuey]

Being proud of the color of your skin.. (which you don't choose at child-birth) is a ****ing retarded notion.

It's not just pride in your skin color and most sensible 'racists' aren't really 'proud' of the fact that they're white. A lot of people are proud of their heritage as flawed as their understanding of this heritage is. You have all these Aryan groups who have the flawed idea that while the rest of the world was living in savagery their ancestors were creating art and writing poetry when in reality ancient whites were just as savage as ancient Asians, blacks, arabs etc. The same way you have all these pan-African Black Panther wannabes who claim Egyptian achievements when in reality the ancient Egyptians were more Arab then anything. I've been in African mosques and can see how a person can claim to be related to people in the same continent even if they do not share the same ancestry but I think modern day racists are more purposely lying to themselves for the sole reason that they are unhappy with the state of their lives.

 

[Anima]

It's not just pride in your skin color and most sensible 'racists' aren't really 'proud' of the fact that they're white. A lot of people are proud of their heritage as flawed as their understanding of this heritage is. You have all these Aryan groups who have the flawed idea that while the rest of the world was living in savagery their ancestors were creating art and writing poetry when in reality ancient whites were just as savage as ancient Asians, blacks, arabs etc. The same way you have all these pan-African Black Panther wannabes who claim Egyptian achievements when in reality the ancient Egyptians were more Arab then anything. I've been in African mosques and can see how a person can claim to be related to people in the same continent even if they do not share the same ancestry but I think modern day racists are more purposely lying to themselves for the sole reason that they are unhappy with the state of their lives.

I agree. I think for many of these white supremacists, it just a matter of wanting to feel better about negative aspects of their own lives by getting to feel superior to SOMEBODY. "Oh, I might be unemployed, I might be overweight, I might have no girlfriend, but I'm still part of the proud and mighty white race! I'm still better than that Jewish guy with the great job, or that black man with the loving family."

The idea of being inherently superior without actually having to DO anything seems a pretty attractive prospects for a lot of the (typically poor and relatively disenfranchised) people who typically make up the various racist movements.

 

[stevenb]

I agree. I think for many of these white supremacists, it just a matter of wanting to feel better about negative aspects of their own lives by getting to feel superior to SOMEBODY. "Oh, I might be unemployed, I might be overweight, I might have no girlfriend, but I'm still part of the proud and mighty white race! I'm still better than that Jewish guy with the great job, or that black man with the loving family."

The idea of being inherently superior without actually having to DO anything seems a pretty attractive prospects for a lot of the (typically poor and relatively disenfranchised) people who typically make up the various racist movements.

Nevermind the fact that from the get-go in public schools white people are taught they were bad, and horrible and all sorts of other things... because of slavery.

Nevermind the double standards that are put down upon is in the name of hate crimes.

Nevermind the "so called" elitism that other races are always saying we believe.

Why can't people just get along? I bleed red blood, so do you... we're all humans on this planet.

 

[OxymoronP]

Nevermind the fact that from the get-go in public schools white people are taught they were bad, and horrible and all sorts of other things... because of slavery.

I dont know where you went to school but I dont remember whites being blamed for anything. Particular white people were blamed, but not white people in general.

Nevermind the double standards that are put down upon is in the name of hate crimes.

Or the double standard of justice to black folks who make up a huge majority of inmates.

Nevermind the "so called" elitism that other races are always saying we believe.

Other races? Since you speak for all other races what do they think about Simon cowell?

Why can't people just get along? I bleed red blood, so do you... we're all humans on this planet.

Then start acting like one.

 

[Laila]

Nevermind the fact that from the get-go in public schools white people are taught they were bad, and horrible and all sorts of other things... because of slavery.

When exactly does this happen?
When i was taught slavery in class, no white person was made to feel bad.

 

[Anima]

Nevermind the fact that from the get-go in public schools white people are taught they were bad, and horrible and all sorts of other things... because of slavery.

If that's the sort of education you had, then you have my sympathies. But slavery is a very important topic in the history of the US, and it's qute possible (and necessary) to teach it in a way that doesn't result in this kind of resentment. I'd hardly call this pertinent to the fact that white supremacists are deeply messed up, scared, hateful little scraps of humanity.

Can I ask what it is that makes you think people are teaching kids that white folks today are "bad and horrible, and all sorts of other things" because of slavery? I've certainly never seen any evidence of this.

Nevermind the double standards that are put down upon is in the name of hate crimes.

What double standards? They apply to everyone. If you were fired from a gay establisment because you yourself were straight, these laws would extend protection to you just as they would to groups usually considered to "benefit" from hate crime legislation.

Nevermind the "so called" elitism that other races are always saying we believe.

Could you explain this point?

Why can't people just get along? I bleed red blood, so do you... we're all humans on this planet.

I agree with this statement completely, which is why racism bothers me so much. We're all people, we're all human beings, and NONE of our differences, be they of race, gender, ethnicity, nationality or sexuality, over-rule this fact.

 

[stevenb]

If that's the sort of education you had, then you have my sympathies. But slavery is a very important topic in the history of the US, and it's qute possible (and necessary) to teach it in a way that doesn't result in this kind of resentment. I'd hardly call this pertinent to the fact that white supremacists are deeply messed up, scared, hateful little scraps of humanity.


Can I ask what it is that makes you think people are teaching kids that white folks today are "bad and horrible, and all sorts of other things" because of slavery? I've certainly never seen any evidence of this.

The undertones for any kid paying attention in an American classroom about how white people enslaved black people and treated them so horribly.

All while leaving out the convenient fact that African Tribes sold their own people to European traders, and anyone else who would have bought them... Combined with the Nasty things that Europeans and Asians did to them as well.. which were all conveniently left out of any k-8 and HS text book.

It makes me very unhappy that they only teach the partial truth, which in light makes white people look horrible.. and while it was horrible, we weren't the only ones doing it.. like they'd LOVE us to believe.

If you're going to teach an event in history, you need to teach the entire event. Period.

What double standards? They apply to everyone. If you were fired from a gay establisment because you yourself were straight, these laws would extend protection to you just as they would to groups usually considered to "benefit" from hate crime legislation.

Could you explain this point?

A group of white kids beat up a black kid, (nevermind if they beat up a hispanic kid, or a asian kid)... While screaming nigger and various other racial slurs... automatic hate crime... even if there isn't a hate crime charged.. the kids are destroyed in the media.

Flip the colors, and a group of black kids beating up a white kid (again, nevermind hispanics, or asians)... while screaming racial slurs.. and no hate crime present. Hell, this won't even get mentioned in the media half the time.

Why the double standard?

I agree with this statement completely, which is why racism bothers me so much. We're all people, we're all human beings, and NONE of our differences, be they of race, gender, ethnicity, nationality or sexuality, over-rule this fact.

Agreed.