Parents, do you really think your local public school is giving your child a decent education? Think again. Public schools, even in suburban neighborhoods, can harm your kids in many ways. Here's a list of 15 ways public schools can hurt children (and parents):
1. Public schools can cripple millions of children's ability to read by using the "whole-language" instruction method (now called "balanced reading instruction" by many public schools).
2. Many public schools spend up to 50 percent of the school day on non-academic subjects that waste children's precious time. The rest of their time is spent on classes such as sex-education, personal safety, drug prevention, consumer affairs, AIDS education, save-the-environment, family life, study halls, multiculturalism, homeroom, electives, counseling, or sports activities.
3. Public schools teach "new" or "fuzzy" math (sometimes called by different names). These instruction methods can cripple children's ability to learn basic arithmetic. Students who fear math are less likely to pursue good careers like computer science and engineering that depend on a love of and competence with math.
4. These schools force children to read dumbed-down textbooks in English, History, and many other subjects, then memorize meaningless facts to pass the next dumbed-down test. The textbooks are often geared to the slowest learners in the class and water-down the subject matter. 12 years of dumbed-down classes based on dumbed-down textbooks therefore waste children's precious time. This is especially true for children who are quick learners, who must endure 12 years of excruciating boredom in public-school classes. In effect, the schools therefore waste 12 years of your child's life.
5. Public schools force children to study subjects they might hate, can't learn, will never use in their lives, or which bore them. For example, many public schools force students to study a foreign language. Children learn better when they study subjects that interest them.
6. Author John Gatto, in his book "Dumbing Us Down" said that a child eager to learn can learn to read, write, and do basic arithmetic in about 100 hours. Yet our public schools keep children locked up for 12 years, yet can barely teach millions of kids to read.
7. Public schools force parents to pay heavy school taxes for an inferior, often mind-numbing education for their children.
8. Public schools are a government-controlled near-monopoly. Bad schools don't close down because compulsory taxes prop them up. Incompetent or mediocre teachers aren't fired because tenure laws protect them. That's why public schools will never improve. Public schools never go out of business because, like prisons, they get their customers (your children) by force, and their money (your school taxes) by force.
9. Many public schools subject children to drugs, bullies, violence, and values many parents disapprove of.
10. Public schools pressure many parents who have bright, normal children to give their kids potentially dangerous mind-altering drugs to make the bored kids "behave" in class. Over four million allegedly "unruly" kids (mostly boys) line up for Ritalin every day in public schools across America. Methylphenidate (sold as Ritalin) and cocaine are both listed in the same "Schedule II" of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency's Controlled Substances Act (CSA).
11. Public schools are compulsory. They therefore violate parents’ natural and constitutional right to control the education of their children. Public-school authorities, whose salaries we pay with our taxes, force parents to hand over their children to government employees called teachers and to schools that give an inferior education.
12. When public schools cripple childrens' reading and math abilities, they can destroy childrens' love of learning and self-confidence. This can cripple children's ambitions and desire to go to college. This in turn, can force these children to end up with low-paying jobs for the rest of their lives if and when they graduate high school.
13. Public schools force millions of Christian parents to hand over their children to public schools which are decidedly anti-Christian. For example, many social studies textbooks used in public schools have censored out references to such words as 'family,' 'marriage,' 'religion,' 'fidelity,' etc. Many textbooks today refer to a family simply as people choosing to live together.
14. Public schools force children to witness sometimes shocking or obnoxious sexual material in sex-education classes, without parents’ knowledge or consent.
15. The public-school near monopoly and compulsory-attendance laws cripple parents' right and ability to choose a quality, low-cost school in an education free-market that has been squashed by the public-school monopoly.
Axismaster said:Crusader against communism and the New World Order, Rev. Butch Paugh is exposing all the ways that public schools hurt children. Here are fifteen great examples from his site.
Sadly, it is not like our socialist government will listen to our pleas.
3. Public schools teach "new" or "fuzzy" math (sometimes called by different names). These instruction methods can cripple children's ability to learn basic arithmetic. Students who fear math are less likely to pursue good careers like computer science and engineering that depend on a love of and competence with math.
After accounting for students' socioeconomic background, a new study shows public school children outperforming their private school peers on a federal math exam.
Well, first we need to have proof of John Gatto's claim. Second, we need to show that the child in public school can't read (or is "barely taught" to read). Third, the example is set that the child has to be eager to learn to read, write and do basic arithmetic. Fourth, there is no example of how how old this "child" would be for the 100 hours to go in effect. I could pick that apart as a scab and still not get down to the bloody stump of sense.6. Author John Gatto, in his book "Dumbing Us Down" said that a child eager to learn can learn to read, write, and do basic arithmetic in about 100 hours. Yet our public schools keep children locked up for 12 years, yet can barely teach millions of kids to read.
What is this "New World Order", also crusaders were basically just some fanatics and did most things their beliiefs would critisize, so is this the same case?Crusader against communism and the New World Order
Education hurts children? More and more people are getting stupider, if they think that.is exposing all the ways that public schools hurt children
Not a parent, but I think there is a lack of education, but I would not destroy whats left, I would try to build it.Parents, do you really think your local public school is giving your child a decent education?
Are you ****ing kidding me! Most kids learn how to read in public school. Though I learned to read by age 2 I think. But public school helped me a lot.1. Public schools can cripple millions of children's ability to read
Its a lot better than no acedemics at all.2. Many public schools spend up to 50 percent of the school day on non-academic subjects that waste children's precious time
These are all very important, but supposing that you are a libertarian, school is about getting a job than a life.The rest of their time is spent on classes such as sex-education, personal safety, drug prevention, consumer affairs, AIDS education, save-the-environment, family life, study halls, multiculturalism, homeroom, electives, counseling, or sports activities.
At least they'll actually learn it than by not sending them to school at all.3. Public schools teach "new" or "fuzzy" math (sometimes called by different names). These instruction methods can cripple children's ability to learn basic arithmetic.
Not true, I was one of the smartest in all my classes, but I still learned a lot(even though I rarely payed attention) but its not a waste of time.This is especially true for children who are quick learners, who must endure 12 years of excruciating boredom in public-school classes. In effect, the schools therefore waste 12 years of your child's life.
I hate math and science, but I was still good at them, though I preferred history geography and other social-related subjects.5. Public schools force children to study subjects they might hate
Oh yes, they all know automatically what we can learn and can't.can't learn
Most classes bored me to death, so I usually just sat there with my mind wandering, but I still learned a lot.or which bore them
Yes, this book is infallible6. Author John Gatto, in his book "Dumbing Us Down" said that a child eager to learn can learn to read, write, and do basic arithmetic in about 100 hours. Yet our public schools keep children locked up for 12 years, yet can barely teach millions of kids to read.
So what, they shouldn't get education because of...money?!7. Public schools force parents to pay heavy school taxes for an inferior, often mind-numbing education for their children.
That is because govt. provides them freely except supplies and taxes, a privatly-owned school often times charge more than a family's income.8. Public schools are a government-controlled near-monopoly
Try to find anywhere without that.9. Many public schools subject children to drugs, bullies, violence, and values many parents disapprove of.
What about private schools?11. Public schools are compulsory
What the ****? Schools just don't want religous teaching, they aren't anti-Christain, like so many claim.Public schools force millions of Christian parents to hand over their children to public schools which are decidedly anti-Christian
OK, so lets dumb-down schools and lose the subject altogether, that way when it comes to sexuality, which is a natural part of humainty, they won't know jack-****14. Public schools force children to witness sometimes shocking or obnoxious sexual material in sex-education classes
I bet you live on Area 51, don't you?Sadly, it is not like our socialist government will listen to our pleas.
Stace said:3. Then again, I didn't see any complaining about public education until Bush took office and started his No Child Left Behind crap....wonder why? Could it possibly be because the program should be more aptly named EVERY Child Left Behind?
The Real McCoy said:And who helped Bush come up with that gem?
Kelzie said:God spoke to him?
Axismaster said:That is a true statement if you are a hyper-left socialist. The rest of us just call him Ted Kennedy.
Kelzie said:First of all, it was a joke, oh ye of little humor. Second, I couldn't care less what side such a dumb idea came from. Doesn't make it any less dumb.
Education
Fundamental Literacy Skills - the US ranks 12th of 18 countries with 20.7% of adults lacking functional literacy skills. (Human Development Index)
High School Graduation - the US ranks 10th with a total of only 87 percent of U.S. adults ages 25 to 34 having finished high school, putting the country behind such nations as South Korea, Norway, the Czech Republic and Japan. (OECD)
Educational Achievement - the United States ranks 18th with 16.2 percent of 15-year-olds falling below international benchmarks, compared with Japan at 2.2 percent, Canada at 5 percent, Britain at 9.4 percent, and France at 12.6 percent, all of this while spending more per student ($10,871) than any other country. (Unicef, 2002)
http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/8/7/204714/6508
How American 15-year-olds rank worldwide
"Fifteen-year-olds from 32 of the world's most developed countries were tested last year as part of the Program for International Student Assessment. The test gauged how well they could apply knowledge gained in and out of school in the three subjects.
The results, released yesterday, show 14 countries ranked higher than the United States in overall literacy, with Finland, Canada and New Zealand at the top, respectively. That combined score includes the ability to interpret and reflect on texts and retrieve information.
U.S. 15-year-olds ranked 18th in math; Japan, Korea and New Zealand ranked highest. The United States was 14th in science, with Korea, Japan and Finland at the top.
"Unfortunately, we are average across the board compared to other industrialized nations," Education Secretary Rod Paige said in a written statement. "In the global economy, these countries are our competitors -- average is not good enough for American kids."
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/49319_students05.shtml
doughgirl said:Who cares which one educates the best, private or public. Overall we stink and it shows.
Try to find one website where American schools excel, where we are on top in any subject. So sad. Our schools are pathetic. But then we do not value education as a society anymore. We value sports........
doughgirl said:Who cares which one educates the best, private or public. Overall we stink and it shows.
Try to find one website where American schools excel, where we are on top in any subject. So sad. Our schools are pathetic. But then we do not value education as a society anymore. We value sports........[/QUOTE
So I get it! We import a great school from some country of your choice. Then all our kids dressed in hip hop clothes with their butts hanging out of their pants, rings in their noses, will put down their video games, stop listening to gangster rap, stop using M.F. every other word, and decide to pursue an education that will lead them to become a brain surgeon!
Funny how well Asian American immigrant's children do it our failing schools! What's pathetic is blaming our schools for the values of our children! That's why all the pressure on schools isn't making big gains! Little Johnny is listening to ganster rap while Mom is blaming his school! Denial ain't just a river in Eygpt!
Caine said:Denial.... :rofl
I think you say that every post.
Kelzie said:Don't even get me started on sports. I don't know who's bright idea it was to combine school and sports, but I think they need to create two tuitions. One for people that care about our sports teams, and one for those who don't. Then the 5 MILLION DOLLARS CU just gave to the football coach to fire him could be on someone else's bill.
The Real McCoy said:Tuition?
And what's wrong with high school sports? They promote exercise, dedication, competition and teamwork... all are important values in the adult world. Granted, many schools treat their athletes with different standards but I think the pros far outweigh the cons.
Kelzie said:I have no problem with high school sports, mostly because the high school I went to put education first. I'm sure some high schools flip it, and that should be corrected. My concern is when a sports program is responsible for my higher tuition. I'm paying to learn. Not so my school can fire a football coach.
Axismaster said:That's very true. Of course we all know that NCLB is just an excuse for reform, no real shot at anything.
The Real McCoy said:Well colleges make plenty of money from sporting event attendance.
hipsterdufus said:In it's present form - the neo-con men are using NCLB to:
1. Dismantle public schools and privatize education to for profit companies like Edison.
2. Dismantle the NEA/AFT (too liberal for the neo-conmen)
3. Support vouchers
4. Promote religious education
5. Generally dumb down the nation - the dumber the better!
WTF? Kelzie was right; it doesn't matter who wrote the piece of crap, it's a piece of crap. NCLB is a liberal idea, promoted by liberals, and enacted by a conservative president. It was gutted, since it has neither power to effect change, nor funding to promote it; all it has is the ability to make schools look bad, and politicians look good -- except that now that we know how dumb it is, they look bad for writing and enacting it. NCLB is truly a non-partisan issue: it makes everyody look bad.The Real McCoy said:Ted Kennedy is a neo-con? Where was I when he came outta the closet?
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