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Why Our Country Is So Screwed Up

The post I was responding too said the media was not calling out Trumps lies? And that they gave him respect he did not deserve. REALLY?

No clue what you are babbling about?
Looked like a legitimate post to me. There was no "babbling."

But the way you stooped to call it that says you don't believe in the merit of your arguments and that you think you need to augment your posts by denigrating the posts of others.
 
Biden has his as the White House says "Big boy"news conference today. Maybe he will be only half as bad as he was at the debate.

Oh joy screaming about "cult". What is wrong with people.
Webster: cult: great devotion to a person

That's maga. Maga is completely devoted to Donald, so maga is a cult.

Cult leadership is wrong for America because in America, we are devoted to a set of principles outlined in our Constitution. Donald has violated the Constitution repeatedly and his cult sticks with him no matter what.
 
Webster: cult: great devotion to a person

That's maga. Maga is completely devoted to Donald, so maga is a cult.

Cult leadership is wrong for America because in America, we are devoted to a set of principles outlined in our Constitution. Donald has violated the Constitution repeatedly and his cult sticks with him no matter what.
It's not a cult but I don't expect you to agree.
 
Donald is so bad that millions of Americans will vote for President Biden even after his poor debate performance. Wow. Donald has to be pretty bad for that to happen.
Better hope he does well tonight with the press conference!
 
Sure it can be done, you forgot the whole text of of section 3, "without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress." West Virginia was created from Virginia in 1863.
Thanks for the correction. So if California wanted to subdivide, it could form 20 more States as long as California approved it and the US Congress approved it. The signature of the president would not even be required. That would give the people of California the power of 18 more Senators in the Senate, and could cement a liberal advantage.

But it's difficult to imagine the government of California agreeing to this idea.
 
Each State has a legislative body, that means there are 50 of them in this country, each State legislative body is elected by the people of that State. Those 50 legislative bodies are represented in the Federal Government by 100 Senators, 2 from each State. Those Senators are bound by their State's legislative body to conduct business on the behalf of the States interest in the Federal Government. Because California has only 1 legislative body it only gets 2 Senators, it the same for all States.

That's the way it is now, but there is nothing that says it has to stay that way. If the structure of government never changed we would still have 13 States.
 
With as much rhetorical influence you appear to have over the Left side of government, your literary skills should be devoted to campaign for the removal of the Electoral College.

Why waste your enthusiasm on debating those who don't go along with your radical ideas?
I do advocate for elimination of the EC. The popular vote is a better way to go.

I appreciate those who post opposing views. If everyone were in agreement there would not be much to discuss. It is our differences that make these discussions in interesting.
 
Congress is designed with 2 Senators per sate and representatives based on population
(the Senate and the House)
same as the EC is designed.. leave it alone
 
Thanks for the correction. So if California wanted to subdivide, it could form 20 more States as long as California approved it and the US Congress approved it. The signature of the president would not even be required. That would give the people of California the power of 18 more Senators in the Senate, and could cement a liberal advantage.

But it's difficult to imagine the government of California agreeing to this idea.

How would you insure all those new Senators were liberal?
 
Thanks for the correction. So if California wanted to subdivide, it could form 20 more States as long as California approved it and the US Congress approved it. The signature of the president would not even be required. That would give the people of California the power of 18 more Senators in the Senate, and could cement a liberal advantage.

But it's difficult to imagine the government of California agreeing to this idea.
Well, no, once California divided into 20 separate States, the State of California (although reduced in size) would still only have 2 Senators. Each of the other 19 newly created States would be sovereign States independent from California and they each would have 2 Senators. It really wouldn't give the liberals an advantage, California is split 50/50 county wise, 58 counties in California, 26 republican, 27 democrat, 5 as other.
 
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Because we are pretty much one of the only first world countries that constantly attacks our own education system instead of trying to improve it.
Education is attacked thanks to Republicans, shills for the rich. They know a stupid public is easier to coerce into believing nonsense and voting for terrible candidates like Donald.
 
Better hope he does well tonight with the press conference!
Actually I hope he drops out and let's Harris run. Either way, I'm going to vote blue no matter who. Donald is toxic to America. Donald belongs in prison, not the WH.
 
Congress is designed with 2 Senators per sate and representatives based on population
(the Senate and the House)
same as the EC is designed.. leave it alone
Constitution says that can be amended. It needs to be.
 
Well, no, once California divided into 20 separate States, the State of California (although reduced in size) would still only have 2 Senators. Each of the other 19 newly created States would be sovereign States independent from California and they each would have 2 Senators. It really wouldn't give the liberals an advantage, California is split 50/50 county wise, 58 counties in California, 26 republican, 27 democrat, 5 as other.
Who says it has to be split up by county?
 
Who says it has to be split up by county?
I didn't say it had to be split by county, I'm just trying to give a reference of how it would be split. The blue counties in California are in Southern California and along the coast up to San Francisco, the red counties are mainly in the Central Valley going north, the northern counties above San Francisco are red counties with the exception of Humbolt county. So it would be very difficult to split California into separate States to give the liberals an advantage.
 
I didn't say it had to be split by county, I'm just trying to give a reference of how it would be split. The blue counties in California are in Southern California and along the coast up to San Francisco, the red counties are mainly in the Central Valley going north, the northern counties above San Francisco are red counties with the exception of Humbolt county. So it would be very difficult to split California into separate States to give the liberals an advantage.
If it were split by smaller regions in the liberal areas it would tip the balance in the Senate.

We would have to figure out how to have a flag with way more stars.
 
If it were split by smaller regions in the liberal areas it would tip the balance in the Senate.

We would have to figure out how to have a flag with way more stars.
I would prefer to see fewer people wanting to change our Electoral System which has lasted for 230 years. That would be akin to the Democrats in key states manipulating voting rules during the pandemic (2020) in order to favor the candidate Biden.

The flag is just fine with 50 stars.
 
I would prefer to see fewer people wanting to change our Electoral System which has lasted for 230 years. That would be akin to the Democrats in key states manipulating voting rules during the pandemic (2020) in order to favor the candidate Biden.

The flag is just fine with 50 stars.
The 17th Amendment changed our electoral system in 1912.

It could be changed again. We have the power.
 
Maybe it would tip the balance in the Senate, but liberals would lose representation in the House.
That's a good point.

Regardless, it's all fanciful anyway. Never gonna happen.
 
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