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Why is the average firearm owner, an unsafe gun owner? (3 Viewers)

stealthycat said:
no no .... I NEVER said they wouldn't get trials or their days in court, did I ? you said that, I never did. I said lock them away from harming people before they mass murder and that's the example I gave and you hated it - and now you agree

hypocritical



wasn't my quote, has nothing to do with me
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Yes you did
You said you would "seriously crack down" on people "known" to be violent/mentally ill

I didn't think you meant withholding their allowance for a couple of weeks....

You continuously champion the need to get said people "off the streets"

So what would you see them convicted of ?
Guilty of being "known" to be violent/mentally ill ?

But then of course, according to you, mentally ill people are not innocent !!!!!
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Numbers arent really your THANG eh Edwin? LOL.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Total Gun Deaths: In 2022, there were 48,204 firearm deaths in the U.S., an average of one death every 11 minutes.

  • Firearm Suicide: 27,032 people died by firearm suicide in 2022.

  • Firearm Homicide: 19,651 people died by firearm homicide in 2022, which was the second-highest number of gun homicide deaths ever recorded.

  • Non-fatal firearm injuries: There are approximately 115,000 non-fatal firearm injuries in the U.S. each year.
  • 115,000 gun injuries, plus thousands of deaths. Thats a lot of people shot!
  • Now: THANK ME.
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got a link for your numbers?
 
WilHaftaWaite said:
got a link for your numbers?
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I would argue that owning a gun and possessing one doesn't mean you have to shoot yourself for someone else. And even if the numbers he provided were correct to their miniscule and compared to the amount of people who own guns
 
Manc Skipper said:
The desire to own a personal weapon is a red flag.
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So you don’t own a hammer, soft ball bat, kitchen knife, tennis racket, golf club or a thousand other items that are personal weapons?
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Numbers arent really your THANG eh Edwin? LOL.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
  • Total Gun Deaths: In 2022, there were 48,204 firearm deaths in the U.S., an average of one death every 11 minutes.

  • Firearm Suicide: 27,032 people died by firearm suicide in 2022.

  • Firearm Homicide: 19,651 people died by firearm homicide in 2022, which was the second-highest number of gun homicide deaths ever recorded.

  • Non-fatal firearm injuries: There are approximately 115,000 non-fatal firearm injuries in the U.S. each year.
  • 115,000 gun injuries, plus thousands of deaths. Thats a lot of people shot!
  • Now: THANK ME.
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Now do motor vehicles. There are over 3,000,000 motor vehicle injuries or fatalities.
 
rahl said:
Now do motor vehicles.
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Nah, I don't wanna. This thread here is about guns and their nuts. Pay attention Rahl and DO try to keep up would you?

rahl said:
There are over 3,000,000 motor vehicle injuries or fatalities.
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Hmmmm. Looks like you already have the beginnings of the thread that you're about to create concerning motor vehicle safety eh Rahl? Its an important topic and I think you're the right person to git 'er done.
 
jaeger19 said:
Oh awesome.lmao.

Now explain how suicide is an ordinal scale .
“ small suicide, medium suicide or large suicide”???
lol.
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I honestly can't believe a medical professional doesn't know how to make suicide protection an ordinal variable. It's not that hard. Are you actually a medical professional? Like do you do research or do you just see clients?
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Nah, I don't wanna. This thread here is about guns and their nuts. Pay attention Rahl and DO try to keep up would you?




Hmmmm. Looks like you already have the beginnings of the thread that you're about to create concerning motor vehicle safety eh Rahl? Its an important topic and I think you're the right person to git 'er done.
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Why are you so hesitant and afraid to compare the two?
 
Scatty Kitty said:
I honestly can't believe a medical professional doesn't know how to make suicide protection an ordinal variable. It's not that hard. Are you actually a medical professional? Like do you do research or do you just see clients?
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Possessing guns isn't a factor in suicide. If it were we'd see a large correlation between those who commit suicide and those who have a history of gun ownership. Instead it seems to correlate more with being male and having mental issue.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes you did
You said you would "seriously crack down" on people "known" to be violent/mentally ill
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I did say that

Rich2018 said:
I didn't think you meant withholding their allowance for a couple of weeks....
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you can "think" a world of things .... its still not what I said

Rich2018 said:
You continuously champion the need to get said people "off the streets"

So what would you see them convicted of ?
Guilty of being "known" to be violent/mentally ill ?

But then of course, according to you, mentally ill people are not innocent !!!!!
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like in the article where they stopped a mass killer .... the one you said you thought was great, right ? why did you support the way they did it? that person wasn't convicted of a crime when nabbed
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
Nah, I don't wanna.
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I know. It would force you to actually be intellectually honest.
PeacefulWarrior said:
This thread here is about guns and their nuts. Pay attention Rahl and DO try to keep up would you?
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I’m pointing out the silliness and dishonesty of your post.
PeacefulWarrior said:
Hmmmm. Looks like you already have the beginnings of the thread that you're about to create concerning motor vehicle safety eh Rahl? It’s an important topic and I think you're the right person to git 'er done.
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Scatty Kitty said:
I honestly can't believe a medical professional doesn't know how to make suicide protection an ordinal variable. It's not that hard. Are you actually a medical professional? Like do you do research or do you just see clients?
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Great In the study you cited. The data in question was whether they committed suicide or not.
Explain how that is ordinal variable.
 
stealthycat said:
I did say that


you can "think" a world of things .... its still not what I said
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So you're idea of "seriously cracking down" does not involve incarceration now ?

You continuously criticize gun control by asserting it wouldn't get a single person "off the streets"
So now that you've backed off from incarceration, how do you propose to get a people "known" to be violent/mentally ill, "off the streets" ?

Mentally ill people are NOT innocent, remember

You are always adamant about the need to get such people "off the streets"


So which is it: incarcerate people "known" to be violent/mentally ill, or leave them ON the streets" ?
 
jaeger19 said:
Great In the study you cited. The data in question was whether they committed suicide or not.
Explain how that is ordinal variable.
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I've cited lots. Which post?
 
Rich2018 said:
Don't worry, jaeger is a self professed doctor. He claims to know things about suicide and mental health

Give me a "like" if you believe his claims.
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He's not a doctor, he's a medical professional. I should ask his opinion on vaccines too.
 
EdwinWillers said:
With all due respect, you haven't the slightest clue who here on DP owns guns, let alone how, or what they know about gun safety.

Frankly, it's insulting to have someone like you presume to know what you've claimed here about gun owners on DP. You've been here what, less than a year and a half?

Moreover, your bias against guns is CLEARLY the motive for this thread - and nothing else.

You "safely use firearms by not having any in your household." Profound, simply profound.
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Anyone who stores ammo separately from firearms is an idiot.
To be effective, a firearm must be in reach with a chambered round. Biometric (fingerprint) lockboxes are ideal for keeping a handgun ready and close.
 
Scatty Kitty said:
He's not a doctor, he's a medical professional. I should ask his opinion on vaccines too.
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Isn't it a fact that the left seeks to disarm the public because an armed populace cannot be ruled?
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Isn't it a fact that the left seeks to disarm the public because an armed populace cannot be ruled?
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I don't know about that, if anything that just seems like a very silly idea. I mean heck, the military listens to the civilian leadership if anyone is armed it's them.
 
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