Why is it OK to call white people apes? Rosanne Vs Bill Maher (1 Viewer)

[phattonez]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

No, that's not it, that's a strawman.

So you're going to criticize what is happening in South Africa?

 

[stevecanuck]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

No, historically, whites have been the oppressors.

Historically people have been oppressors. Pages could be filled with examples of non-whites oppressing whoever happens to be occupying land they're trying to conquer. Pick a color, they're all guilty and have been since the dawn of time.

 

[phattonez]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

Why do you care? Aren't you an isolationist?

I'm not saying that we should invade South Africa to rectify the situation, but why can't I bring attention to it?

 

[Winston]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

I'm not saying that we should invade South Africa to rectify the situation, but why can't I bring attention to it?

nothing wrong with awareness raising, i just don't know why you bring them up in a discussion about America.

 

[Winston]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

Historically people have been oppressors. Pages could be filled with examples of non-whites oppressing whoever happens to be occupying land they're trying to conquer. Pick a color, they're all guilty and have been since the dawn of time.

But, in America, white people have been the oppressors.

This is a discussion about America.

 

[Winston]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

So when whites are denied a spot in college because of their skin color, is that not an example of those in power (in this case, blacks and their supporters) leveraging their power against whites because of their skin color?

Affirmative action is imperfect. Getting turned down by a college and having to go to your second choice is not being shot by the police for looking like you did a crime, because come on all those black guys do crimes.

Take your white pride circus elsewhere.

 

[phattonez]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

nothing wrong with awareness raising, i just don't know why you bring them up in a discussion about America.

Because I want to see how you react to a situation where whites are openly and loudly oppressed to see if you are being disingenuous.

 

[phattonez]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

Affirmative action is imperfect. Getting turned down by a college and having to go to your second choice is not being shot by the police for looking like you did a crime, because come on all those black guys do crimes.

Take your white pride circus elsewhere.

I didn't realize that you finally learned the crime statistics.

 

[stevecanuck]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

But, in America, white people have been the oppressors.

This is a discussion about America.

Yes, Europeans (the second immigrants) arrived and took over the job of oppression that had formerly been the purview of the first immigrants.

 

[stevecanuck]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

Affirmative action is imperfect. Getting turned down by a college and having to go to your second choice is not being shot by the police for looking like you did a crime, because come on all those black guys do crimes.

Take your white pride circus elsewhere.

Affirmative action is much more than imperfect. It is reverse racism. It is a second wrong that pretends to undo the damage done by the first wrong. It is snake oil that progressives dose themselves with so they can tell themselves they've righted a wrong, when in fact they have only shifted that wrong onto another race.

 

[Vadinho]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

So you think its okay to call white people apes and say that the president's mom fu**ed orangatangs. On the air... People, we got ourselves another hypocrite! That was easy!

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Reading posts like this makes me sad. What happened to our once excellent public school system that we could create minds that think like this person?

 

[HenryChinaski]

I disagree, calling someone an ape or monkey of whatever variety has the same level of acceptability regardless their skin color, its just blacks tend to take the offence more personally than others do normally. Ironically enough this plays into the offenders hands as the object is to hurt mentally the recipient of said insult, which is the whole point of the exercise. People susceptible to such suggestion are more easily manipulated than those of a tougher mental constitution.

I wonder why black folk take offense to being called “apes” Could it be being depicted and referred to as apes in media/print/literature since this countries inception? Nah..

 

[PirateMk1]

I wonder why black folk take offense to being called “apes” View attachment 67233668 View attachment 67233669 View attachment 67233670View attachment 67233671 Could it be being depicted and referred to as apes in media/print/literature since this countries inception? Nah..

Well if they cant handle it they will be prone to manipulation it as simple as that. I am short, stout, and butt ugly, nobody ever let up on me with the insults and shade. I learned to deal with it and don't care anymore. People can call me whatever they like it doesn't matter to me. If they don't like being called a monkey or an ape, maybe the people, being called that should let it pass in one ear and out the other.

 

[iguanaman]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

Is Rossane a racist for calling a human an ape?

I think this is more just a Trump Punishment Syndrome.

We have Whoopie from The View saying she wishes she can PISS all over the Trump family... On the Air.

We got Bill Mar suggesting that trump is a stupid ape and his mom loves to have sex with monkies. On the air.

Im sorry, but im detecting some double standards here.

The left is obsessed with looking like good guys while getting their punches in.

Bill Mahr and his show were cut by ABC too. So no double standard. Both got the same treatment.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

lol...you are cutting out so much history and logic and common sense with this oversimplification I'm not even really sure how to respond.

Racial remarks are racial remarks it is just that simple. I am tire of the double standards. How long ago was the civil war. If you want racial equality just do it and stop all the double standards. The fact is it is just that simple.

 

[OlNate]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

So what exactly is the issue? It's okay to insult people, but you can't insult someone because of their race? Why is it okay to insult people for looking like an ape, but if they say it because of the skin color that's worse? I don't really understand the logic here. We can criticize facial appearances, but skin color is sacrosanct?

lol...again, you're comparing apples to oranges. I'm not saying whether insulting someone is bad or good, that's not what the OP said, that's not what this thread is about. The question is are both racist, the answer is no, end of story. Why is this so controversial??

 

[HenryChinaski]

Well if they cant handle it they will be prone to manipulation it as simple as that. I am short, stout, and butt ugly, nobody ever let up on me with the insults and shade. I learned to deal with it and don't care anymore. People can call me whatever they like it doesn't matter to me. If they don't like being called a monkey or an ape, maybe the people, being called that should let it pass in one ear and out the other.

They’ve had no choice but to “handle it” for 200 + years. Why should they start getting uppidy about it now right? And what does you being “short and butt ugly” have to do with hundreds of years of a race of people being depicted as subhuman animals?

 

[trixare4kids]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

lol...again, you're comparing apples to oranges. I'm not saying whether insulting someone is bad or good, that's not what the OP said, that's not what this thread is about. The question is are both racist, the answer is no, end of story. Why is this so controversial??

Ok, but threads evolve.
Why avoid answering his question?

 

[OlNate]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

Ok, but threads evolve.
Why avoid answering his question?

Because answering it is an obvious gotcha. If I say one statement is obviously racist, regardless of the intention behind it, and the other I couldn't care less about because I think Trump is a dick, then I instantly get called a hypocrite, despite the fact that the comparison isn't valid. Personally I feel like the Trump hate genre in comedy is a little old at this point, so if I did throw a chuckle at the orangutan comparison, it would be an ugly gesture driven by the fact that I don't like Trump the person, irrespective of his race.

That's why this is a false equivalency, and why I'm debating the racism aspect, vs. whether or not it's cool to be an asshole. Being an asshole has replaced baseball as the national American pastime. The only reason to be outraged by it at this point is to have ammo the next time you want to go to toe to toe with someone in a debate forum. This is true for all sides. But racist humor carries a heavier consequence, as it normalizes racist behaviour. That's the difference for me.

 

[Daisy]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

I would say it's wrong...black, white or orangutan orange...it's still wrong...

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I mean... If Rosaenne is getting fired for it.... Then its time to cancel Bill Maher. If you think its ok to call white people apes but not black people then you are admitting your own secret hidden racism that you think black people look like apes you racist little bastard!



And this was ON HIS SHOW!!! At least Rosaenne did it on her personal... Either fire Bill Maher or ur a hypocrite. (but we already know they are hypocrites)

How about: Because at no time in the history of this country have white people ever had references to apes used as justification for denying them anything and everything, even the right to live, much less get a job, hold public office, rent a place to live, acquire professional licenses, have bank accounts, travel without restrictions, pursue a higher education at the university of their choosing, the list is endless.

How about: Because at no time in the history of this country have white people ever had references to apes used as justification for a vast array of cruel and unusual punishments, torture, rape, dissolution of property, dissolution of family, literally anything and everything connected to segregation, slavery, Jim Crow, etc.

 

[trixare4kids]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

Because answering it is an obvious gotcha. If I say one statement is obviously racist, regardless of the intention behind it, and the other I couldn't care less about because I think Trump is a dick, then I instantly get called a hypocrite, despite the fact that the comparison isn't valid. Personally I feel like the Trump hate genre in comedy is a little old at this point, so if I did throw a chuckle at the orangutan comparison, it would be an ugly gesture driven by the fact that I don't like Trump the person, irrespective of his race.

That's why this is a false equivalency, and why I'm debating the racism aspect, vs. whether or not it's cool to be an asshole. Being an asshole has replaced baseball as the national American pastime. The only reason to be outraged by it at this point is to have ammo the next time you want to go to toe to toe with someone in a debate forum. This is true for all sides. But racist humor carries a heavier consequence, as it normalizes racist behaviour. That's the difference for me.

No, it's not an obvious gotcha' especially since we both agree that Maher comment is not racist. The questions are on point......

I treat people how they treat me...I sure would not call you a hypocrite for expressing honesty.
I would simply like one person from the left say that it's not okay to insult people, period.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

No, it's not an obvious gotcha' especially since we both agree that Maher comment is not racist. The questions are on point......

I treat people how they treat me...I sure would not call you a hypocrite for expressing honesty.
I would simply like one person from the left say that it's not okay to insult people, period.

Let's leave The Left out of it for now.
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[argutator]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

Mmm...false equivalency. "Ape" is not a widely recognized, traditionally race based slur for white people, like it is for black people. Sorry, nope.

So...when one calls a white person an "ape" you aren't sure if that's a slur or not? :roll:
Sory. Nope.

 

[trixare4kids]

Re: Why is it OK to call white people apes?

So...when one calls a white person an "ape" you aren't sure if that's a slur or not? :roll:
Sory. Nope.

What's even worse is that Bill Maher said Trump's mother must have f'd an ape. How is that not a grievous sexist insult laced with racial innuendo?