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Why is ISIS going after so many countries?

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Why is ISIS going after so many different countries. I just read a thread about China declaring war on them now too. What do they hope to gain from having the whole world against them at once?
 
because they are violent, murderous idiots. Saudi Arabia needs to clean up its backyard.
 
JC Callender said:
Why is ISIS going after so many different countries. I just read a thread about China declaring war on them now too. What do they hope to gain from having the whole world against them at once?
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take on the whole planet in the name of Allah, they believe they will triumph, if you aren't Muslim, you are an infidel, it's very black and white to them, they will willingly die because they know they are right
 
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Why is ISIS going after so many different countries. I just read a thread about China declaring war on them now too. What do they hope to gain from having the whole world against them at once?
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Evil people do evil things....however, whenever, wherever and to whomever they want. That's why we call them "the bad guys".
 
JC Callender said:
Why is ISIS going after so many different countries. I just read a thread about China declaring war on them now too. What do they hope to gain from having the whole world against them at once?
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I still don't understand how Jim Jones got 900 people to commit suicide at Jonestown. And committing suicide is basically what ISIS is doing.

There is no way that ISIS can win. Almost every major country is at war with them. They may kill a few thousand innocent people but in the end they are going to be smashed. It just doesn't make sense.
 
Crosscheck said:
I still don't understand how Jim Jones got 900 people to commit suicide at Jonestown. And committing suicide is basically what ISIS is doing.

There is no way that ISIS can win. Almost every major country is at war with them. They may kill a few thousand innocent people but in the end they are going to be smashed. It just doesn't make sense.
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what is win?
sometimes watching your enemy pain is win
sometimes revenge is win
for example you are fired
maybe you will kick to your boss ass
your job never back
but you are enjoying ....
what is win?
 
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JC Callender said:
Why is ISIS going after so many different countries. I just read a thread about China declaring war on them now too. What do they hope to gain from having the whole world against them at once?
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As you know, this was mentioned in several places in the Bible - Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekial, and of course, The Book Of Revelation in the New Testament which also talks about both Russia and China and the roles they play. It was interesting to me that Syria and Persia...which is Iran today...are two countries that are also listed! Nastrodamus also talked about these future events in some of his quatrains. Scary stuff, JC, since ancient prophecies seem to be happening in the world today! :shock:
 
JC Callender said:
Why is ISIS going after so many different countries. I just read a thread about China declaring war on them now too. What do they hope to gain from having the whole world against them at once?
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Their version of "shock and awe"?
 
nota bene said:
Their version of "shock and awe"?
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Greetings, nota bene. :2wave:

They must be certain they're right and we're wrong, but I abhor their cruel way of thinking and acting! How can they be right? "May you live in interesting times" comes to mind, but that is a Chinese curse, not a blessing.
 
They're bullies, that's why.

all bullies are cowards who only attack people who can't defend themselves against them.

And no bully values life in any capacity, they only care about their own self gratification.
 
_Sal said:
take on the whole planet in the name of Allah, they believe they will triumph, if you aren't Muslim, you are an infidel, it's very black and white to them, they will willingly die because they know they are right
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If you're not an extremist. Muslims have been killed in these attacks as well. Law-abiding Muslims living in secular societies are just as much of a target to ISIS as anybody else. This is what makes their fight laughably futile.
 
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Aside from the suggestions made, if I were the leader of this group, and these decisions were left to me, along with their repercussions.....


I would say that, my initial goal was to alienate the world against ALL muslims. What I mean by that is, create an US vs THEM atmosphere, thereby forcing a confrontation between government and moderate Islam. FORCE in my best efforts all muslims to be painted with a broad brush.


That would be my long game.
 
By the time our politicians have made a decisive decision on Islamic State they will be on our doorstep with bombs, guns and machetes and our children, our children's children and our children's grand children will be all slaves to Islam and prisoners to Islamic State. We are all ****ed.
 
JC Callender said:
Why is ISIS going after so many different countries. I just read a thread about China declaring war on them now too. What do they hope to gain from having the whole world against them at once?
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They are committed to a belief that God is on their side, that he wants them to form a new Caliphate and to kill all who don't follow their version. They believe that because God is with them they cannot fail and they don't believe that they're promoting their own destruction by having the entire world as their enemies, they see it as a vital part of their path.
 
le bouffon said:
If you're not an extremist. Muslims have been killed in these attacks as well. Law-abiding Muslims living in secular societies are just as much of a target to ISIS as anybody else. This is what makes their fight laughably futile.
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Muslims die yes but you have to understand it's all for the greater good. Innocents must be sacrificed for the greater good. Anyone is expendable for the greater good.

that's why once we begin to sacrifice people and justify it saying, it serves the greater good, we begin to slowly lose our humanity

it's a slippery slope
 
KevinKohler said:
Aside from the suggestions made, if I were the leader of this group, and these decisions were left to me, along with their repercussions.....


I would say that, my initial goal was to alienate the world against ALL muslims. What I mean by that is, create an US vs THEM atmosphere, thereby forcing a confrontation between government and moderate Islam. FORCE in my best efforts all muslims to be painted with a broad brush.


That would be my long game.
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and it is already happening...I agree with you...once we isolate Muslims in general out of fear, then begins the swift journey to general persecution and once people are alone and isolated they are malleable to suggestion, recruitment and god knows what else.

once here, we have to reach out and assist them, they have to be helped to understand our culture and quickly assimulate

otherwise we are going to be pooched from within

outside isn't that dangerous...inside we are highly vulnerable along with our lifestyle/freedom
 
_Sal said:
take on the whole planet in the name of Allah, they believe they will triumph, if you aren't Muslim, you are an infidel, it's very black and white to them, they will willingly die because they know they are right
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And, this is the fundamental flaw with religious zealotry. "We will prevail because...God."
 
calamity said:
And, this is the fundamental flaw with religious zealotry. "We will prevail because...God."
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agreed! we will win this football game because of God

we will win this war because of God

I will overcome this illness because of God

it's illogical

and it's dangerous

anything that states, I am right, because of God is dangerous
 
I've been pondering the same question, why would you attack all of the states who have military power to flatten you?

If you wanted a caliphate, you would build it first and consolidate and then look to expand. Why poke the entire world in the eye?

Someone in another thread said world Armageddon is part of the philosophy.

It looks like divide and conquer. Divide normal people and isolate Muslims, then when normal people react as normal people do to terrorist outrages, normal Muslims are on the defensive and angry at feeling unjustly labeled and will look for anything to defend themselves. That is already becoming quite aggressive defence here, on social media and so on. That makes a powderkeg easy to light.

I agree these people are clever and unlike many of the predecessors, they are not concerned with gaining power and holding onto it within their own territory. They are thinking globally. It has been a mistake to underestimate the threat.

And we have tied ourselves in political knots after the public backlash about Iraq and Afghanistan, politicians have not been able to wade in here in the same way. In UK, the public pillory Tony Blair for Iraq and what makes it more confusing is the "West caused Isis by invading Iraq" brigade. Meaning if you go to war with Isis it is unjust as they only exist because of us and what will be the result of such a war anyway? The politicians are being paid enough, they need to sort this aspect out, deal with this twisted logic and deal with the professional againsters and start making the case to the public.

Personally, it's too late for all that. The threat is real, whatever was or was not the cause something needs to be done. Defence of the realm is the first duty of government. These people are attacking all over the world. That is unreasonable behaviour.

I think total chaos is their plan. And it isn't that difficult to create, is it. From what we have already seen.
 
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