Why is CRT a hot button issue and how did it become one?

[AGENT J]

People simply do not like being characterized a being racist.
And they don't want some Left-leaning Progressive lackey of the teachers union telling their kids they are a member of a race that oppresses black people.
And people don't like being told they live in a society that is systemically racist.

Want more reasons to be up in arms about Critical Racy Theory?

Exhibit D

 

[AGENT J]

All you have to do is watch this thread and see who makes the triggered and unhinged posts . . the types of authors that do will l you everything you need to know and they certainly won't be able to support their tinfoil hat nutter claims.

 

[NWRatCon]

There are three reasons right wingers object to critical race theory. First, it is critical, and we know they cannot stand criticism. Second, it is about race, a topic that motivates them always, but not in a good way. CRT posits that "race" is a social construct, which sounds an awful lot like socialism, so they have to be agin' it. Third, it's a theory, which smacks of science, which is far too intellectual to be countenanced.

 

[Sabre]

So long as other competing theories on the topic were taught as well. But it don't think one can judge a topic like this based on one brief definition.

Critical race theory - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has warned that the website can no longer be trusted – insisting it is now just “propaganda” for the left-leaning “establishment”.

Mr Sanger told UnHerd’s Lockdown TV on Wednesday that he started the “encyclopaedia of opinion” in 2001 purely on the basis it would offer true neutrality and offer “multiple points of view” on “hot button issues”, the NY Post reports.
Now, he insisted, conservative voices are “sternly warned if not kicked out” if they try to add a different take on establishment views – which Mr Sanger deemed “propaganda”.
“You can’t cite Fox News on sociopolitical issues. It’s just banned now,” he insisted of the apparent clampdown on respected conservative voices.
“It means that if a controversy does not appear in the mainstream centre-left media, then it’s not going to appear on Wikipedia.”

Nobody should trust Wikipedia, says man who invented Wikipedia

He says there’s a complex game being played to make an article say what somebody wants it to say

www.yahoo.com

 

[NWRatCon]

Exhibit D

Clearly I spoke too soon. Here they are!

 

[NWRatCon]

Ironically, I just checked out one of the seminal volumes on critical race theory. I hadn't been able to locate my copy. Unfortunately the rules of the electronic edition I've acquired prevent me from quoting (cutting and pasting) from it, but I've already found three passages that directly refute most of the nonsense we're about to see spewed... in three, two, one ...

Oh wait! I see the first one already: "Marxism", check (it's not)...

 

[jaypatriot]

Ironically, I just checked out one of the seminal volumes on critical race theory. I hadn't been able to locate my copy. Unfortunately the rules of the electronic edition I've acquired prevent me from quoting (cutting and pasting) from it, but I've already found three passages that directly refute most of the nonsense we're about to see spewed... in three, two, one ...

Oh wait! I see the first one already: "Marxism", check (it's not)...

Seems like you're trying awfully hard to make a sound case for Critical Race Theory.
Are you admitting you are already convinced you are a racist white person because of the color of your skin?
And you think every white person should acknowledge they live in a systemically racist society.? And black people have been victimized by whites for over 200 years?

What are you trying to convince us to believe?

 

[Nickyjo]

Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger has warned that the website can no longer be trusted – insisting it is now just “propaganda” for the left-leaning “establishment”.

Mr Sanger told UnHerd’s Lockdown TV on Wednesday that he started the “encyclopaedia of opinion” in 2001 purely on the basis it would offer true neutrality and offer “multiple points of view” on “hot button issues”, the NY Post reports.
Now, he insisted, conservative voices are “sternly warned if not kicked out” if they try to add a different take on establishment views – which Mr Sanger deemed “propaganda”.
“You can’t cite Fox News on sociopolitical issues. It’s just banned now,” he insisted of the apparent clampdown on respected conservative voices.
“It means that if a controversy does not appear in the mainstream centre-left media, then it’s not going to appear on Wikipedia.”

Nobody should trust Wikipedia, says man who invented Wikipedia

He says there’s a complex game being played to make an article say what somebody wants it to say

www.yahoo.com

My point was that critical race theory is not necessarily defined accurately by its critics.

 

[NWRatCon]

Seems like you're trying awfully hard to make a sound case for Critical Race Theory.
Are you admitting you are already convinced you are a racist white person because of the color of your skin?
And you think every white person should acknowledge they live in a systemically racist society.? And black people have been victimized by whites for over 200 years?

What are you trying to convince us to believe?

One couldn't convince you the sky was blue if your eyes were propped open, and there were no clouds in the sky in the middle of the day. Unless that's what Fox News decided was the complaint of the day, then you'd be all over it. Then it would be, "No more blue skies! They're a communist plot! The sky has a definite liberal bent... that's why it's blue. "

 

[NWRatCon]

My point was that critical race theory is not necessarily defined accurately by its critics.

It is definitely not defined accurately by its critics, who couldn't understand it if the they tried - which they won't. They'll just parrot whatever nonsense Fox spews and not exert an ounce of independent thought.

 

[AARguy]

CRT is predicated on the position that all white people are oppressors and all minorities are victims. Such idiocy has not place in a classroom of young impressionable kids. here is nothing wrong with studying the concept in a college environment along with other forms of bigotry, psychoses, and prejudice.

 

[NWRatCon]

CRT is predicated on the position that all white people are oppressors and all minorities are victims. Such idiocy has not place in a classroom of young impressionable kids. here is nothing wrong with studying the concept in a college environment along with other forms of bigotry, psychoses, and prejudice.

(Exempli gratia) No, the idiocy is that description, which, unsurprisingly, is entirely false. Not at all unexpected (see my earlier predictive post). When one only gets their descriptions solely from right wing media, and accepts everything without question, one can make absurd assertions and be the subject of derision from the adequately informed.

The second premise of CRT is that racism is not primarily a personal fault, but imbedded in the structure of systems, thus systemic. (The first premise is that race is a social construct.) It does not say that "White people are oppressors" - that's a right wing propaganda creation - but that the systems have been engineered to give advantage to the white population. Historically, of course, whites have been the oppressors, so it's no surprise that the systems created in that environment carry forward that condition.

Get informed or be blissful, because ignorance is bliss.

 

[lwf]

Rather ironic when you consider CRT is nothing more than an attempt to scare brown folks into believing they face an irredeemable system of white oppression.

"CRT" doesn't claim this at all. "CRT" has almost no resemblance to what conservatives popularly claim it does. CRT is nothing more than an attempt to paint slavery and race as it actually was and is from a historical perspective and help educate those people who have absolutely no experience of being raised and surviving as a black American in the United States that their experience as a white American is not comparable to the experiences of the majority of black people in the US. This is what systemic racism refers to. They live in a country where, to some degree, the cards are stacked against them and they don't often enjoy the same privileges as the white majority, even if there is no law preventing them from enjoying them.

They are not consciously oppressed by white people. But their experience is different, and it isn't only because of "their own bad choices." Those choices are not made in a vacuum, they are made in a society. And that society exists in the state it is in thanks to a legacy of slavery and racism.

 

[lwf]

CRT is predicated on the position that all white people are oppressors and all minorities are victims. Such idiocy has not place in a classroom of young impressionable kids. here is nothing wrong with studying the concept in a college environment along with other forms of bigotry, psychoses, and prejudice.

No it isn't. This is a white nationalist myth perpetuated by conservative media because the myth is more politically convenient to frighten gullible conservatives to the polls than reality.

 

[lwf]

I don’t believe CRT is history.

Any part of CRT that is not history should not be taught in schools. But I prefer to let actual historians and educators determine this, rather than political personalities and frightened housewives.

 

[NatMorton]

"CRT" doesn't claim this at all. "CRT" has almost no resemblance to what conservatives popularly claim it does. CRT is nothing more than an attempt to paint slavery and race as it actually was and is from a historical perspective and help educate those people who have absolutely no experience of being raised and surviving as a black American in the United States that their experience as a white American is not comparable to the experiences of the majority of black people in the US. This is what systemic racism refers to. They live in a country where, to some degree, the cards are stacked against them and they don't often enjoy the same privileges as the white majority, even if there is no law preventing them from enjoying them.

They are not consciously oppressed by white people. But their experience is different, and it isn't only because of "their own bad choices." Those choices are not made in a vacuum, they are made in a society. And that society exists in the state it is in thanks to a legacy of slavery and racism.

It is you who is demonstrating a lack of understanding of CRT. Any reading on the subject shows its principal assertion is that the civic and legal institutions of the United States are inherently racist and beyond amendment.

My suggestion to you: don't try to correct others from a position of ignorance.

 

[vegas giants]

Any part of CRT that is not history should not be taught in schools. But I prefer to let actual historians and educators determine this, rather than political personalities and frightened housewives.

Theories of many kinds are discussed in universities and should be as long as they are labeled as theories

 

[Aunt Antifa]

It is you who is demonstrating a lack of understanding of CRT. Any reading on the subject shows its principal assertion is that the civic and legal institutions of the United States are inherently racist and beyond amendment.

My suggestion to you: don't try to correct others from a position of ignorance.

BZZZZZZT - wrong answer!

Please sit down and let others play the game.

 

[lwf]

It is you who is demonstrating a lack of understanding of CRT. Any reading on the subject shows its principal assertion is that the civic and legal institutions of the United States are inherently racist and beyond amendment.

My suggestion to you: don't try to correct others from a position of ignorance.

It is you who have not read up on the subject, at least outside of conservative sources. The whole point of CRT is to teach that systemic racism CAN be amended.

The knee jerk reaction against CRT is due to a lack of understanding of what "systemic racism" means. Conservatives equate "systemic racism" with "bigoted white people," and they correctly conclude that white racial bigotry is not a serious problem in the majority of places and institutions in 2021 America. Specific institutions are not "inherently racist" because they are composed of actively bigoted white people in 2021, (at least in the vast majority of cases.) They are inherently racist in the systemic racism sense because they were formed and operate under the same rules as were established during a period where black society and culture was legally and civically prevented from being successful. The institutions are racist because they don't recognize that an entire culture of people raised in such a society for generations are not starting from the same starting line in 2021 as everyone else through no fault of their own.

It is ignorant to assume that American institutions benefit all Americans equally. They provably don't. This isn't because too many Americans in 2021 are bigots, it's because too many black people are born and raised in austere conditions. Too many black people are born and raised in austere conditions not because of bigoted white people in 2021, but because their entire culture was utterly alienated by our white ancestors and most resources were forbidden to them. In such a culture far fewer people are going to succeed than in the dominant culture, even if we technically no longer deliberately prevent them from success.

It most definitely IS white culture's fault that black culture doesn't do as well as we do in America in 2021. That doesn't mean it is the fault of white people living in 2021 for being bigots, but it does mean that white people living in 2021 should recognize our comparative privilege that we don't have a systemically racist system to deal with along with normal human problems, and we should share in the responsibility for making changes to even the playing field for those that do.

 

[TheParser]

Last year because of the incident in Minneapolis, the craze that swept the nation was how horribly certain folks were being treated in this country.

The Dems, of course, eagerly took up the cause, with the Speaker of the House even kneeling in the Capitol in contrition.

The liberal-dominated media went wild with this false accusation, too.

So it was natural that the Republicans wanted to push back, especially since the Dems want to indoctrinate children with this stuff.

Of course, the Dems will win the contest.

The Administration, the media, and the corporations have all bought into this sham.

 

[lwf]

Last year because of the incident in Minneapolis, the craze that swept the nation was how horribly certain folks were being treated in this country.

The Dems, of course, eagerly took up the cause, with the Speaker of the House even kneeling in the Capitol in contrition.

The liberal-dominated media went wild with this false accusation, too.

So it was natural that the Republicans wanted to push back, especially since the Dems want to indoctrinate children with this stuff.

Of course, the Dems will win the contest.

The Administration, the media, and the corporations have all bought into this sham.

Being obsessed with preventing people from being treated horribly seems like a good obsession to have. Education through the sharing of facts is not indoctrination. Indoctrination is sharing "alternative facts" where reality is less important than a political agenda. Republicans are the ones who have embraced this.

 

[Geoist]

CRT is just the latest Boogyman until a better Boogyman comes along

Sometimes I think right-wing media figures and politicians get together every other week to vote on what should be the newest pearl-clutching outrage.

 

[KingLeo]

It is a false flag, far right wing made up issue.
They claim it is being taught in K-12 public schools, it isn't.
They claim it is being taught in colleges and universities. It isn't.
About the only place it is being talked about and discussed are law schools.

 

[j brown's body]

It became a hot buton issue when whites realizd they are losing control of the histoprial narrative and their myths are cracking apart.

CRT seems to be all the rage among the right and the far right. When and how did this become a thing? Who made it a thing? What, specifically is CRT, how old is it, what does it do, is it even an "it"?

It became a hot button issue when whites realized they are losing control of the historical narrative and their myths are breaking apart.

Appealing to racial fear can be very successful strategy, and at this point, its about all conservatives have.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

History is history. It's not a theory.

Critical Race Theory is a historical narrative, not a theory. History is about perspectives.