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Why I'm an anti-anti American.

Inuyasha said:
Ludahai - 魯大海
So, I'll admit Catholism is all you, you must be a Catholic or something, but when you are ready to venture into the waters of the Christian bible, step up, the doors always open.


What the hell is this suppose to mean? You think Catholics are not Christians. We were Christians long before protestant bible thumping immoralist like Pat bin-Robertson or Jerry Falwell and your kind ever came along. Christian bible- WTF is that supposed to mean? I guess you are in Taiwan conquering the world with the bible and anti-Catholic hatered. So much for your love of your fellow man. Can you spell hypocrite. just look in the mirror it's tattooed in your forehead.

Are you pro-choice? If the answer is yes then you are not really Catholic and you should be excommunicated for violating the decree of the pope.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Are you pro-choice? If the answer is yes then you are not really Catholic and you should be excommunicated for violating the decree of the pope.

The the F are you to tell me how I think! You are always assuming and assuming wrong. I take great offense at your stupidity and your meddling in my religious life and beliefs. Who the F died and made you God? You are no more aware of weather I am pro choice or what. If you don't understand what you wrote then you are in deep psychological trouble. If you do then you are blindly bigoted. Either way you are waaaaay out of line this time. Besides your post has nothing to do with what I wrote about . It is just religiously bigoted hot air. You can't win any other way so you resort to this stuoid tactic. Bigots of that ilk make me sick.
 
Inuyasha said:
The the F are you to tell me how I think! You are always assuming and assuming wrong. I take great offense at your stupidity and your meddling in my religious life and beliefs. Who the F died and made you God?

God.
You are no more aware of weather I am pro choice or what. If you don't understand what you wrote then you are in deep psychological trouble. If you do then you are blindly bigoted. Either way you are waaaaay out of line this time. Besides your post has nothing to do with what I wrote about . It is just religiously bigoted hot air. You can't win any other way so you resort to this stuoid tactic. Bigots of that ilk make me sick.

Are you pro choice?
 
ludahai said:
Just because someone can't read French doesn't mean they aren't educated. Perhaps I should post a link in Chinese and say that if YOU can't read it, YOU aren't educated enough. Besides, in the US, the top foreign language to study is Spanish because it is far more useful for most people (except in the part of the US where I am from where French IS more useful.)

No ludahai, you're barking up the wrong tree.
I wasn't claiming anybody who can't speak French isn't educated.
He fails to answer direct questions put to him in English. It was his general ability to interpret information that I was questioning.

ludahai said:
There are few minority protections

There are strong anti-racism laws.


ludahai said:
there and there are Arab and African slums,

There are slums, as in all nations. What we don't have are "arab" or "black" slums. French society, as all European societies are more integrated than that and what we don't have is this US style unspoken apartheid where you don't go to certain areas because it's not safe if you're wrong colour. What you saw last winter was a social eruption of the poorer suburbs, INCLUDING white French people who are sick of this right-wing government, whose un-socialist policies have made their lives worse. Aquapub doesn't get it - revolts agaisnt socialsm? No, they're revolts for MORE socialism.

ludahai said:
France has its problems.

Of course, all nations do. But let's present the real story rather than aquapub's xenophobic rants and wild claims he can't substantiate.
 
Inuyasha said:
The the F are you to tell me how I think! You are always assuming and assuming wrong. I take great offense at your stupidity and your meddling in my religious life and beliefs. Who the F died and made you God? You are no more aware of weather I am pro choice or what. If you don't understand what you wrote then you are in deep psychological trouble. If you do then you are blindly bigoted. Either way you are waaaaay out of line this time. Besides your post has nothing to do with what I wrote about . It is just religiously bigoted hot air. You can't win any other way so you resort to this stuoid tactic. Bigots of that ilk make me sick.


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Hey, whoa! You just need to take a couple deep breaths Inuyasha. Please take it to the basement next time. Consider yourself warned.

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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Are you pro-choice? If the answer is yes then you are not really Catholic and you should be excommunicated for violating the decree of the pope.

What the hell? So you speak for God now, do you? How blasphemous of you. :roll:
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Ya right the majority of your immigrant population from Northern Africa wants a country within a country that's why they take to the streets and riot, they don't want equality they want separation..

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You've polled them have you? Or did that come from Fox News?
What will they call this separatist state. "Northern Africa"?
Are you even aware of the diversity and differences between the Kabyles, Berbers and numerous other north Africans that live here, not to mention the north African Jews and Christians amongst them. Your ridiculous claim is part of the paranoid "the moslems are out to take over" myth.
You've never even actually been to France have you?



Trajan Octavian Titus said:
A) Last time I checked the Phillipines are a soveriegn nation onto themselves and not a part of the United States...

Which makes their citizens on US territory immigrants. And they're all in top government posts and on business boards aren't they?
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
B) It's just as easy for a person from South Central LA to make it as anyone else, in fact with affirmative action it's easier just so long as he works hard and keeps his nose clean..



:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

That's not even worth a response


Trajan Octavian Titus said:
C) A caring society? What a freaking joke is that why the French had thousands of senior citizens recently die of heat exhaustion because their own families don't even take care of their own? Only in a society as sick as yours could you possibly consider yourselves a caring society. Social mobility rates in Europe are far far less in Europe than in the U.S., how many new million aires do you produce a year? You may be able to scrape by but you aren't going to hit it big and with a 50% taxation rate it's no wonder why.

Lessons were learned from that tragic summer where we had unusally persistant high temperatures which resulted in many elderly people dying. I work in health care, and I can tell you that it's thanks to our high taxes that the money's been there to put extra resources in place to prevent this happening again.
And if Katrina 2 strikes tomorrow???
 
Urethra Franklin said:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You've polled them have you? Or did that come from Fox News?
What will they call this separatist state. "Northern Africa"?
Are you even aware of the diversity and differences between the Kabyles, Berbers and numerous other north Africans that live here, not to mention the north African Jews and Christians amongst them. Your ridiculous claim is part of the paranoid "the moslems are out to take over" myth.
You've never even actually been to France have you?


Ya that explains the mass rioting right, wantant destruction, and needless violence? How is it that our immigrant population can have protests of 500,000 strong with no incidents of violence yet yours burns down buildings and blows sh!t up? I would assert that due to your racist and xenophobic society upward mobility for the immigrant population is non-existent while in ours the very reason why people come here is because the upward mobility is so high. Attorney General Gonzalez is I believe either a second or maybe even a first generation immigrant to this country and many people wanted him for the Supreme Court including myself.

Which makes their citizens on US territory immigrants. And they're all in top government posts and on business boards aren't they?

It's not U.S. territory so what are you talking about?

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

That's not even worth a response

African Americans have every opportunity in the world, it's what they choose to do with that opportunity that is the question.

Lessons were learned from that tragic summer where we had unusally persistant high temperatures which resulted in many elderly people dying. I work in health care, and I can tell you that it's thanks to our high taxes that the money's been there to put extra resources in place to prevent this happening again.
And if Katrina 2 strikes tomorrow???

So rather than the families actually taking care of their own elderly you instead have the government do it, is that a good thing in your book?

Katrina was a flash flood not a pro-longed heat wave in which your own families didn't even bother to check up on their parents and grandparents.
 
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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Ya that explains the mass rioting right, wantant destruction, and needless violence? How is it that our immigrant population can have protests of 500,000 strong with no incidents of violence yet yours burns down buildings and blows sh!t up?
.

You don't need immigrants to do it. Your own population did a good enough job after Rodney King

Trajan Octavian Titus said:
It's not U.S. territory so what are you talking about?
.

You didn't know the Northern Mariana Islands were a US territory, full of sweatshops employing Filipinas for peanuts (most of them thinking they were headed for a bright future on he US mainland). But how would you know? It's not in your state.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
African Americans have every opportunity in the world, it's what they choose to do with that opportunity that is the question..

:mrgreen:


Trajan Octavian Titus said:
So rather than the families actually taking care of their own elderly you instead have the government do it, is that a good thing in your book?

Katrina was a flash flood not a pro-longed heat wave in which your own families didn't even bother to check up on their parents and grandparents.

You talk out of your backside. We had night temperatures that didn't fall below 35°C. We're not used to that in France. Many old people who live alone who were looked in on at night and given a drink were sadly found dead in the morning. Staff shortages in certain institiutions have been addressed. Mistakes were made. Thanks to our open society they've been brought into the open, and thanks to our taxes, the public money's there to address it.

Katrina was predicted and swift action wasn't taken. What it's aftermath revealed were horrific levels of poverty that due to social security, we don't have here. For the world's richest economy, it's inexcusable, and frankly proves that capitalism doesn't work.

Now answer the question. You've never actually been to France have you?
 
millsy said:
I live in Finland right now, so I believe I have a decent understanding of the anti-American sentiment that exists in Europe right now. I really see it as not an ant-American, but rather anti George W. Bush, anti war in Iraq feeling. People here are fascinated by life in America and want to know about it, and want to travel there. I get the feeling that the people here are not full of hate, but rather are worried about where America is going.

What is really interesting is that I have a friend here who is from New Jersey who is a conservative republican, who does a lot of grassroot work for the republican party and stands very firmly behind President Bush. He sees it a little differently than I do (I am very liberal.........yes we have good fights). He sees the current Republican administration as a great representation of what is "a real American" and that disapproval of the administration is disapproval of America.

I of course disagree with that, and do not think that President Bush represents "real Americans" and neither do most of the people who have talked to me about why they "don't like" America.

Of course all of this is just an anecdote, so take it for what you will.

What the hell are you doing in Finland?
 
Urethra Franklin said:
You don't need immigrants to do it. Your own population did a good enough job after Rodney King

Ya for one day yours went on for like a 2 weeks and is happening yet again.


You didn't know the Northern Mariana Islands were a US territory, full of sweatshops employing Filipinas for peanuts (most of them thinking they were headed for a bright future on he US mainland). But how would you know? It's not in your state.

If it's U.S. territory then its citizens are protected by minimum wage labor laws, the people who work in the sweatshops must be illegal immigrants who can make a better life there than from where they came from, just like Mexicans who cross the border, no one is forcing them to come and no one is forcing them to work. There is a difference between legal and illegal immigrants but in your country even the legal immigrants are disenfranchised. Attorney General Gonzalez is a second or maybe even a first generation immigrant.




You talk out of your backside. We had night temperatures that didn't fall below 35°C. We're not used to that in France. Many old people who live alone who were looked in on at night and given a drink were sadly found dead in the morning. Staff shortages in certain institiutions have been addressed. Mistakes were made. Thanks to our open society they've been brought into the open, and thanks to our taxes, the public money's there to address it.

Ya we have social securtiy for our elderly too what we don't have is old people dying of heat exhaustion in mass in the age of air conditioning, ours was the first country to implement Social Security way back under FDR, you know the guy who saved you guys from the Nazis, or were you guys allies, that's right I do recall the Vechee regime.

Anyways we have had social security longer than you and we now realize that it is destined to failure unless it is privatized or my generation will not recieve any money due to increased life expectancy and population growth. What's really funny is that you are under the impression that taxes aren't your money and that the state is better at managing your own financial affairs.

What's going to happen is that in your old age you are destined to be poor due to a 50% taxation rate so this means that you are going to be dependent on the state for even your most basic of needs, which means that the state has your life in its hands. Do you still claim to live in a free society?

Katrina was predicted and swift action wasn't taken. What it's aftermath revealed were horrific levels of poverty that due to social security, we don't have here. For the world's richest economy, it's inexcusable, and frankly proves that capitalism doesn't work.

That's bullshit the reason for the poverty in New Orleans is precisely because of the welfare state, leftists like you destroyed the economy of New Orleans. Capitalism does work it's socialism in the U.S. that's the problem.

Now answer the question. You've never actually been to France have you?

Why would I want to go to a 2nd rate country like that?
 
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Inuyasha said:
Ludahai - 魯大海
So, I'll admit Catholism is all you, you must be a Catholic or something, but when you are ready to venture into the waters of the Christian bible, step up, the doors always open.


What the hell is this suppose to mean? You think Catholics are not Christians. We were Christians long before protestant bible thumping immoralist like Pat bin-Robertson or Jerry Falwell and your kind ever came along. Christian bible- WTF is that supposed to mean? I guess you are in Taiwan conquering the world with the bible and anti-Catholic hatered. So much for your love of your fellow man. Can you spell hypocrite. just look in the mirror it's tattooed in your forehead.

You don't read very well. That was in a post by kal-el (since edited) made directed at ME. I am a Catholic! You owe me an explanation AND an apology!
 
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Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Why would I want to go to a 2nd rate country like that?

To have your eyes opened.

I knew from the start you were judging a country you've never even set foot in.

Case rested.
Game set and match.

*Urethra sips a chilled glass of celebratory Pommeray*
 
Urethra Franklin said:
To have your eyes opened.

I knew from the start you were judging a country you've never even set foot in.

Case rested.
Game set and match.

*Urethra sips a chilled glass of celebratory Pommeray*

No I'm judging a country based on the empirical evidence that your economy is in the tank, your employees don't want to work, and your immigrant population is disenfranchised.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Why would I want to go to a 2nd rate country like that?

Urethra Franklin said:
To have your eyes opened.

I knew from the start you were judging a country you've never even set foot in.

Case rested.
Game set and match.

*Urethra sips a chilled glass of celebratory Pommeray*

No I'm judging a country based on the empirical evidence that your economy is in the tank, your employees don't want to work, and your immigrant population is disenfranchised.


You're drunk

No actually I was sober when I wrote that. You'll know when I'm drunk.

Score it: UF - 6 :2wave: TOT - 23

For reference, it helps to quit while you're ahead, not while you're getting your *** kicked, but you're french so you know that don't you? :doh Lol awwww no, that was mean. That was uncalled for.
 
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