Why I'm an anti-anti American.

[Urethra Franklin]

Of course Inuyasha, there exist boorish Europeans and cultured United Statesians, but I do find the general level of culture more elevated in Europe (a personal and subjective view I concede)

I find an enourmous difference between the United Statesians who have travelled and had their horizons broadened, and those who haven't. I think it's so sad that so few of them actually possess passports and don't have the travel bug which is engrained in many Europeans: admitteldy they're not helped by their geographical location, while we in Europe don't have to travel far to see another country. Add to this, US news which is heavily focussed on the local (apart from the poor quality Faux News and CNN Lies). I spent time in Dallas and had to go well out of my way to find decent news that wasn't just about Dallas/Fort Worth. I've met people in Chicago that didn't know London was the capital of England, had never heard of Slovenia and couldn't name prominent western european leaders. You see this insularity on these boards, and given that the US is such a major power (albeit diminishing fast) this to me represents a major problem.

 

[ludahai]

If you'd like to check France's birth rate, you'll find we have no worries, the average French family continuing to produce 3 children. As for other states with falling birthrates, more than enough immigrants are banging on the door for a taste of the good life.

I did check the birth rate. It is only 1.85 per woman. That is well short of replacement rate.

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fr.html

 

[Inuyasha]

UF you bring up many valid points so let's look at them and see how and why certain conditions exist in the US,

Isolationism has been a part of America since it's beginning (George Washington- "Beware of foreign entanglements."). For many years the isolationism that we practiced served a purpose but today it is antiquated and out dated. In the modern world no one can "go it alone". Like it or not that is a fact. But it's rather like technology. We have invented a technology that is more advanced than most of us who use it. Just try to connect or program you VCR and you will know what I mean. The same is true of our isolationism. We have (as people) not caught up with the globalization that we, ourselves (Americans) were so instrumental in developing.

In reference to information we have little from outside the US for several reasons a negative one is because of our isolation American tend not to trust foreign news sources. This is counter-productive and often deprives us of vital information as individuals. When i am in Spain (half of the year) I can get TV from all the EU nations, radio from North Africa and even though I live in a typical Spanish neighborhood i can get most foreign newspapers within 100 meters of my house. In Chicago there are only 4 or 5 places that I can get the international press and they are far from my neighborhood. I can get a half hour a day of British, French and Italian TV but these are relatively sanitized versions so they don't do much good. However if I am on the West Coast I have something you don't have and that is hours of unsanitized Asian programing. This is due to the mixed nature of US society.

The only real complaint i hear from foreigners living in the US is that we are over competitive. This is true. It is so much the nature of our people that we sometimes become isolated from others because of it. We live in the most "linear" society on the planet as compared to "circular" societies like the Mediterranean countries. This is sad but it is the nature of the beast. That is enpough for now.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

I did check the birth rate. It is only 1.85 per woman. That is well short of replacement rate.

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fr.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1595395.stm

Heard ya missed me you sexy beast you

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Funny, but you can't move in Paris for United Statesians settling here for a bit of culture and civilization. Proof: the mulitple real estate agencies, American grocery stores and "American in France" periodicals - even (sadly) a flourishing American church and cathedral. It's rather a 2 way street love.
If you'd like to check France's birth rate, you'll find we have no worries, the average French family continuing to produce 3 children. As for other states with falling birthrates, more than enough immigrants are banging on the door for a taste of the good life.

A) You're lying European birthrates are lower than their immigration rates.

B) Our American grocery stores are only proof of the superiority of our society, we export America.

C) Immigrants go to America for a better life, immigrants go to Europe to burn it down.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

A) You're lying European birthrates are lower than their immigration rates..

You're nasty. I'm not lying. I never claimed our birthrates were higher than immigration rates. With a rising birthrate and immigration, nobody's worried abour demographics in France.

B) Our American grocery stores are only proof of the superiority of our society, we export America..

They're there for the growing number of United Statesian refugees living here. Pick up the flourishing number of anglophone magazines here (FUSAC, Paris Voice etc.) and read the testimonies of growing numbers of United Statesians who come to France in search of sanity. Many of them work illegally without papers. You want to talk about illegal immigrants?

C) Immigrants go to America for a better life, immigrants go to Europe to burn it down.

Europe is hardly burnt down. There was social unrest in certain French suburbs last winter; you've had your fair share too. My ex-boyfrind was trapped in LA after the Rodney King beating inspired riots - no nicer than what happened in Clichy-sous-Bois. Immigrants go to both the US and Europe in search of a better life. In Europe they at least get some social security and health care to go with their minimun wage jobs, whereas having to work two jobs to make a subsistance living is about all they usually acheive in the sweatshops of your Northern Mariana Islands.

 

[Inuyasha]

B) Our American grocery stores are only proof of the superiority of our society, we export America.

C) Immigrants go to America for a better life, immigrants go to Europe to burn it down.

Gorcery stores... what grocery stores,? 7-11?

C. That's total Bullshid. Stop exagerateting things You're going to wind up being a complete embarassment to the United States.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Europe is hardly burnt down. There was social unrest in certain French suburbs last winter; you've had your fair share too. My ex-boyfrind was trapped in LA after the Rodney King beating inspired riots - no nicer than what happened in Clichy-sous-Bois. Immigrants go to both the US and Europe in search of a better life. In Europe they at least get some social security and health care to go with their minimun wage jobs, whereas having to work two jobs to make a subsistance living is about all they usually acheive in the sweatshops of your Northern Mariana Islands.

Now there's a good way to destroy a civilization, quit having native born children and get immigrants to come by giving away the national treasury :roll: , Europe is declining and due to your socialism your economies are in the tank. Your immigrant population coming in for the welfare and free healthcare is like a leech suckling on the life blood of your economy. In France your immigrants who spend less than 183 days in your country don't have to pay income taxes so that means that you are paying them to live there kind of like an indentured servant. You have a 10% unemployment rate, and for those of you who do work and earn E50,000 a year and up they must give away half of what they earn. I find it remarkable that you keep barely half of what you earn and still have the audacity to claim that you live in a free society.

 

[Inuyasha]

Now there's a good way to destroy a civilization, quit having native born children and get immigrants to come by giving away the national treasury :roll: , Europe is declining and due to your socialism your economies are in the tank. Your immigrant population coming in for the welfare and free healthcare is like a leech suckling on the life blood of your economy. In France your immigrants who spend less than 183 days in your country don't have to pay income taxes so that means that you are paying them to live there kind of like an indentured servant. You have a 10% unemployment rate, and for those of you who do work and earn E50,000 a year and up they must give away half of what they earn. I find it remarkable that you keep barely half of what you earn and still have the audacity to claim that you live in a free society.

Everything you have said is BS. Don't worry about Europe declining . You better worry about the good ole US of A. We are declining at an astronomical rate. All our economist say the same thing, The generation going into the work force is going to be the first generation in out history that will learn less than their parents.THAT¡S CALLED DECLINING, WAKE UP. You have an inferiority complex in front of Europe. I've see it a million times. Europe is Europe. America is America deal with it and stop trying to insult people just because you can't debate with them God you are obtuse as two boards sometimes. Before you start babbling about the salaries in Europe you better go there to work and live on the local economy. If you don't everything you say is gross speculation and not worth spit because you don't really know. Some fields are better paid than here and other less. You are still living in the post war era. That's gone. This is exactlu what UF is talking about. You are making us all look like a bunch of jackasses theough your own ignorance. You are atypical of the 21st century American.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Everything you have said is BS. Don't worry about Europe declining . You better worry about the good ole US of A. We are declining at an astronomical rate. All our economist say the same thing, The generation going into the work force is going to be the first generation in out history that will learn less than their parents.THAT¡S CALLED DECLINING, WAKE UP. You have an inferiority complex in front of Europe. I've see it a million times. Europe is Europe. America is America deal with it and stop trying to insult people just because you can't debate with them God you are obtuse as two boards sometimes. Before you start babbling about the salaries in Europe you better go there to work and live on the local economy. If you don't everything you say is gross speculation and not worth spit because you don't really know. Some fields are better paid than here and other less. You are still living in the post war era. That's gone. This is exactlu what UF is talking about. You are making us all look like a bunch of jackasses theough your own ignorance. You are atypical of the 21st century American.

It's not speculation it's called research you may have heard of it. Fact: the French unemployment rate is 10%, French income taxation is 48%, fact: those not living in France for longer than 183 days do not pay income taxes, fact: the majority of the immigrant population travels to and from their countries of origin thus avoiding income taxation, fact: the birth rate in France is lower than the immigration influx, fact: America has by far the largest and strongest economy in the world and it's still growing, fact: socialism has destroyed the economy of France and their markets are in a state of atrophy and stagnation.

Wow you've been to France woopedeedoo, that has absolutely nothing to do with anything and 21st century America is the greatest society the world has ever known so I take that as a compliment.

I still love the fact that the French can keep a straight face when they say they are a free society yet they are forced to give away upwards of 50% of whatever they earn through an unjust taxation to maintain a failing welfare state.

 

[Inuyasha]

It's not speculation it's called research you may have heard of it. Fact: the French unemployment rate is 10%, French income taxation is 48%, fact: those not living in France for longer than 183 days do not pay income taxes, fact: the majority of the immigrant population travels to and from their countries of origin thus avoiding income taxation, fact: the birth rate in France is lower than the immigration influx, fact: America has by far the largest economy in the world and it's still growing, fact: socialism has destroyed the economy of France.

Wow you've been to France woopedeedoo, that has absolutely nothing to do with anything and 21st century America is the greatest society the world has ever known so I take that as a compliment.

Wopdedo you've hid youself away in the library's basement doing reeeesearch. Thats waaaaybetter than experience. I am glad you are not leading our military around in Iraq or Afghanistan with you reeesearchreplacing experience. Get real. That's a sham. Research my @ss. Get off you duff and get out in the world.

I know why you write this crap...because you are really very smart and you are having fun fooling everyone with your clever act. If I am wrong, God or Freud help you. But I think I am right because no one in their right mind could write the things you do if it wasn't a con. TOT you are a con man par excellent. You've had us all fooled for months.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Wopdedo you've hid youself away in the library's basement doing reeeesearch. Thats waaaaybetter than experience. I am glad you are not leading our military around in Iraq or Afghanistan with you reeesearchreplacing experience. Get real. That's a sham. Research my @ss. Get off you duff and get out in the world.

I know why you write this crap...because you are really very smart and you are having fun fooling everyone with your clever act. If I am wrong, God or Freud help you. But I think I am right because no one in their right mind could write the things you do if it wasn't a con. TOT you are a con man par excellent. You've had us all fooled for months.

Oh I'm sorry you were under the impression that going on vacation once to France and seeing the Eiffel tower some how makes you more informed on tax rates, birth rates, immigration rates, and unemployment rates. Little news flash one does not need to travel to France to find out that their unemployment rate is at 10%, that their tax rate is 48%, and that their birth rates are declining. Now do you have anything but blather to add to the argument you know possibly some facts or relevant information and not just your opinion?

 

[ludahai]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1595395.stm

Heard ya missed me you sexy beast you

Your own source says that France has 1.9 children per woman, still below the replacement rate.

The country I live in has a worse problem. Taiwan's rate of children per woman is about 1.3 according to recent government figures. That is the second lowest in the world!

Welcome back. Always nice to have more perspectives, even if I disagree with him/her most of the time.

 

[Inuyasha]

Oh I'm sorry you were under the impression that going on vacation once to France and seeing the Eiffel tower some how makes you more informed on tax rates, birth rates, immigration rates, and unemployment rates. Little news flash one does not need to travel to France to find out that their unemployment rate is at 10%, that their tax rate is 48%, and that their birth rates are declining. Now do you have anything but blather to add to the argument you know possibly some facts or relevant information and not just your opinion?

You do this about once a month. That is you bang you head against the wall of reality. The deeper you get in the more hysterical anger you show. By this time you must be eating aspirin in industrial quantities.

First do not assume you know anything about my personal life. You don't and inferring that you do makes you look silly so don't go there. It would be better for you to STFU on that subject before you make yourself look more of a fool than you have already.

The EU nations do not fall out of one mold. The manner of arriving at national statistics differs from France to Germant to the UK. I am sure that UF, who lives and works in France can give you the facts regarding for example the unemployment rate, immigration etc. That is if you are willing to listen which most of the time you don't seem to have much interest in doing.

I will talk about a nation where I have lived and worked for many years, and where I stay and work anywhere from 3 to 6 months every year. I also have two adult children who have made that nation their home for most of their life, The reasons why they choose to live there do not concern you.

This nation I am speaking of at present has a 12% unemployment rate. Higher than France or the US, They must be living in abject poverty. Not so they live as good as just about most industrialized nations even the US. Hard to swallow? Well we no longer have the highest standard of living, the highest salaries no the best life style. That's all gone. The generation now entering the work force will live a much poorer existence than the previous generation has. But back to the subject at hand.

This nation has a population of 40 million people but it also has an illegal immigrant population of 1.5 million. That would be like 12 million illegals in a nation of 300 million like the US. So how are they surviving and why do they keep coming? The answer, in part, lies in the manner that unemployment is calculated. In this nation a person remains on the unemployment list even after government unemployment payments are terminated. They are only taken off the rolls if they begin to work again or die. This is calculated through the social security system. The other point is that anyone who is working 25 hours a week or less is considered unemployed. You can well imagine that the US 6% rate would rise dramatically if this system of statsic calculation was used.

The other point that you categorically fall prey to is even after all this time with the Brits, the French, the Belgins, the Irish telling you that the word socialist does not have the same meaning to a European that it has to you. You are mistaken again:roll: by calling all of these nations socialist. It was the Dutch who developed the mercantile system and continue to be the best capitalist in the world. Maybe a little travel might wake you up to reality or whatever.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The EU nations do not fall out of one mold. The manner of arriving at national statistics differs from France to Germant to the UK. I am sure that UF, who lives and works in France can give you the facts regarding for example the unemployment rate, immigration etc. That is if you are willing to listen which most of the time you don't seem to have much interest in doing.

I don't need her/him to tell me the unemployment rate I already know what the unemployment rate of France is as of the 200 census it is at 10%.

This nation I am speaking of at present has a 12% unemployment rate. Higher than France or the US, They must be living in abject poverty. Not so they live as good as just about most industrialized nations even the US. Hard to swallow? Well we no longer have the highest standard of living, the highest salaries no the best life style. That's all gone. The generation now entering the work force will live a much poorer existence than the previous generation has. But back to the subject at hand.

Yes we do have the highest standard of living and the highest salaries in the world, and while you and your children may not live in abject poverty that is because you only live there from 3 to six months out of the year, tell me pray tell do where do you spend the rest of your time living and working could it be in the U.S. not to mention that people who live and work (optimum word is work) would not be living in abject poverty but the unemployed would.

As for your claims that the generation now entering the work force will live a poorer existence than the previous generation, I've heard this crap thrown around from time to time funny thing is nobody can ever back up that opinion with those little things called facts and figures.

This nation has a population of 40 million people but it also has an illegal immigrant population of 1.5 million. That would be like 12 million illegals in a nation of 300 million like the US. So how are they surviving and why do they keep coming? The answer, in part, lies in the manner that unemployment is calculated. In this nation a person remains on the unemployment list even after government unemployment payments are terminated. They are only taken off the rolls if they begin to work again or die. This is calculated through the social security system. The other point is that anyone who is working 25 hours a week or less is considered unemployed. You can well imagine that the US 6% rate would rise dramatically if this system of statsic calculation was used.

Illegal immigrants wouldn't be counted in the unemployment list illegal immigrants do not recieve social security.

The other point that you categorically fall prey to is even after all this time with the Brits, the French, the Belgins, the Irish telling you that the word socialist does not have the same meaning to a European that it has to you. You are mistaken again:roll: by calling all of these nations socialist. It was the Dutch who developed the mercantile system and continue to be the best capitalist in the world. Maybe a little travel might wake you up to reality or whatever.

What the hell does mercantalism have to do with socialism? Mercantalism is colonialism not socialism. And now you are creating your very own definitions for words. European "third way," Socialism means exactly what I think it means a blend between Communism and Capitalism but guess what it's a shitty system and one which has led to the stagnation of European markets, rampant unemployment, as well as, an ever increasing welfare state which when coupled with insane immigration regulations plays a very strong role in the crippling of the European economy.

 

[Inuyasha]

You're hopeless.

 

[iamjack]

You do this about once a month. That is you bang you head against the wall of reality. The deeper you get in the more hysterical anger you show. By this time you must be eating aspirin in industrial quantities.

He's angry. You're the one who seems insecure. He echoes facts, and you come back with broad opinions and bold type.

C) Immigrants go to America for a better life, immigrants go to Europe to burn it down.

Quiet, you.

You're hopeless.

Yeah, right. Well if he's such a lost cause, why not turn and address UF's blatent, self-defensive chauvinism, you moderate, you? :2razz:

 

[Inuyasha]

He's angry. You're the one who seems insecure. He echoes facts, and you come back with broad opinions and bold type.

Facts? What Facts? Broad Statemenrs? Examples and NOT PULLED OUT OF CONTEXT PLEASE



Quiet, you.



Yeah, right. Well if he's such a lost cause, why not turn and address UF's blatent, self-defensive chauvinism, you moderate, you? :2razz:

One thing at a time. I really don't think you read all of what I wrote.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Your own source says that France has 1.9 children per woman, still below the replacement rate.

The country I live in has a worse problem. Taiwan's rate of children per woman is about 1.3 according to recent government figures. That is the second lowest in the world!

Welcome back. Always nice to have more perspectives, even if I disagree with him/her most of the time.

As I stated, the average French FAMILY is having about 3 kids these days. Add to that the women who choose not live in traditional family structures and you arrive at our real birth rate of 1.9 children per woman. Below the replacement rate yes, but I never claimed it wasn't. It remains the highest in the EU and as I've stated, with immigration added, nobody's worried about demographics. I notice Trajan (who comes from a nation which I thought prided itself on being built on immigration) seems to think I should be worried about immigration. Living here and seeing the situation as it really is, I'm not -probably because unlike him, I'm not a racist.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

As I stated, the average French FAMILY is having about 3 kids these days. Add to that the women who choose not live in traditional family structures and you arrive at our real birth rate of 1.9 children per woman. Below the replacement rate yes, but I never claimed it wasn't. It remains the highest in the EU and as I've stated, with immigration added, nobody's worried about demographics. I notice Trajan (who comes from a nation which I thought prided itself on being built on immigration) seems to think I should be worried about immigration. Living here and seeing the situation as it really is, I'm not -probably because unlike him, I'm not a racist.

A) you're just making up that 3 children figure which is why you didn't back it up with out any statistics.

B) I'm not a racist, that's more of a character trait of you European anti-semetics, however, I do know that having an immigration population who doesn't wish to assimilate to the host nation is not a good idea not to mention the drain on your already dwindling welfare state that they're having.

C) We do pride ourselves on being an immigrant nation, however, once people get here they have to work hard, ours is a nation where social mobility is easily obtained thing is nobodies going to give you a hand out but, also, nobodies going to stand in your way. In Europe there is little to no social mobility because your welfare state creates a dependent society of sheep.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

A) you're just making up that 3 children figure which is why you didn't back it up with out any statistics..

Check out the Nouvel Observateur from last September or October - though I doubt you're educated enough to be able to actually read it.

B) I'm not a racist, that's more of a character trait of you European anti-semetics, however, I do know that having an immigration population who doesn't wish to assimilate to the host nation is not a good idea not to mention the drain on your already dwindling welfare state that they're having.
..

Would that be why our "non-assimilated" immigrants nearly all speak French, while in parts of the US you're stuffed if you're not fluent in Spanish? I was a fully assimilated immigrant in to the UK, as were my parents, and I'm now a fully assimilated immigrant into France. It really wasn't diffficult. I love the French - strove to learn their language and work hard at what I do, pay my taxes and wow, I'm accepted as part of the community - even with my funny name and cute accent and (equally well assimilated) black African boyfriend. Honey don't tell Ella how to sing jazz, OK?
You're not racist?? Look again at your ten children and not caring about European whity quip. Don't tell me, some of your best friends are.....

C) We do pride ourselves on being an immigrant nation, however, once people get here they have to work hard, ours is a nation where social mobility is easily obtained thing is nobodies going to give you a hand out but, also, nobodies going to stand in your way. In Europe there is little to no social mobility because your welfare state creates a dependent society of sheep.

Yes, the Filipinas working the sweatshops of the Northern Mariana Islands really made it to the top of the tree didn't they? And just how easy is it if you're black to socially mobilise your way out of South Central LA? No social mobility in Europe? I'm a professional, university educated woman whose parents worked in factories. My story is not uncommon in France nor in the UK where I grew up. The welfare state didn't make me a sheep, but I got my education for free and it did look after me for free when I was sick. And my eldery pensioner mother doesn't have to wonder if she can afford a trip to the doctor when she's sick. It's called a caring society, but there's no personal, short term financial gain in that for already rich business folk, so cons aren't interested.

 

[ludahai]

Check out the Nouvel Observateur from last September or October - though I doubt you're educated enough to be able to actually read it.

Just because someone can't read French doesn't mean they aren't educated. Perhaps I should post a link in Chinese and say that if YOU can't read it, YOU aren't educated enough. Besides, in the US, the top foreign language to study is Spanish because it is far more useful for most people (except in the part of the US where I am from where French IS more useful.)

Would that be why our "non-assimilated" immigrants nearly all speak French, while in parts of the US you're stuffed if you're not fluent in Spanish? I was a fully assimilated immigrant in to the UK, as were my parents, and I'm now a fully assimilated immigrant into France. It really wasn't diffficult. I love the French - strove to learn their language and work hard at what I do, pay my taxes and wow, I'm accepted as part of the community - even with my funny name and cute accent and (equally well assimilated) black African boyfriend. Honey don't tell Ella how to sing jazz, OK?
You're not racist?? Look again at your ten children and not caring about European whity quip. Don't tell me, some of your best friends are.....

I think TOT and I would agree that this is part of the problem with the modern ideology of multiculturalism. In the past, immigrants DID learn English. When my grandparents immigrated to the United States, they learned English. They didn't lose their native tongue, but they made sure they learned English. I have a strong belief in the need to return to that.

However, things are not as rosy in France as you present. There are few minority protections there and there are Arab and African slums, something that came clearly to light last year. I have been to France several times, and while I don't read and write French particularly well, I can speak the Quebecois dialect reasonably well, so I can communicate with the locals. Like any other country (including the US), France has its problems.

I have also taken the time to learn Mandarin and am learning Taiwanese. I have been by in large accepted by the people here. Sure, they are often surprised to see a foreigner speak near-fluent Mandarin and to be able to read menus and all. However, after a while, they get used to it and really generally treat me as anyone else. Frankly, most Americans are like this as well. If you go to the U.S., work hard, learn the language, most people will accept you. I don't think this is limited to just the Europeans.

Yes, the Filipinas working the sweatshops of the Northern Mariana Islands really made it to the top of the tree didn't they? And just how easy is it if you're black to socially mobilise your way out of South Central LA? No social mobility in Europe? I'm a professional, university educated woman whose parents worked in factories. My story is not uncommon in France nor in the UK where I grew up. The welfare state didn't make me a sheep, but I got my education for free and it did look after me for free when I was sick. And my eldery pensioner mother doesn't have to wonder if she can afford a trip to the doctor when she's sick. It's called a caring society, but there's no personal, short term financial gain in that for already rich business folk, so cons aren't interested.[/QUOTE]

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Just because someone can't read French doesn't mean they aren't educated. Perhaps I should post a link in Chinese and say that if YOU can't read it, YOU aren't educated enough. Besides, in the US, the top foreign language to study is Spanish because it is far more useful for most people (except in the part of the US where I am from where French IS more useful.)

Si, yo hablo espanol malomente.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Check out the Nouvel Observateur from last September or October - though I doubt you're educated enough to be able to actually read it.

What did they do a survey? I really don't care what they have to say unless it is an official governmental survey from the French census buraeu I'm not interested.

Would that be why our "non-assimilated" immigrants nearly all speak French, while in parts of the US you're stuffed if you're not fluent in Spanish? I was a fully assimilated immigrant in to the UK, as were my parents, and I'm now a fully assimilated immigrant into France. It really wasn't diffficult. I love the French - strove to learn their language and work hard at what I do, pay my taxes and wow, I'm accepted as part of the community - even with my funny name and cute accent and (equally well assimilated) black African boyfriend. Honey don't tell Ella how to sing jazz, OK?

Ya right the majority of your immigrant population from Northern Africa wants a country within a country that's why they take to the streets and riot, they don't want equality they want separation.

You're not racist?? Look again at your ten children and not caring about European whity quip. Don't tell me, some of your best friends are.....

What the hell does this even mean?

Yes, the Filipinas working the sweatshops of the Northern Mariana Islands really made it to the top of the tree didn't they? And just how easy is it if you're black to socially mobilise your way out of South Central LA? No social mobility in Europe? I'm a professional, university educated woman whose parents worked in factories. My story is not uncommon in France nor in the UK where I grew up. The welfare state didn't make me a sheep, but I got my education for free and it did look after me for free when I was sick. And my eldery pensioner mother doesn't have to wonder if she can afford a trip to the doctor when she's sick. It's called a caring society, but there's no personal, short term financial gain in that for already rich business folk, so cons aren't interested.

A) Last time I checked the Phillipines are a soveriegn nation onto themselves and not a part of the United States.

B) It's just as easy for a person from South Central LA to make it as anyone else, in fact with affirmative action it's easier just so long as he works hard and keeps his nose clean.

C) A caring society? What a freaking joke is that why the French had thousands of senior citizens recently die of heat exhaustion because their own families don't even take care of their own? Only in a society as sick as yours could you possibly consider yourselves a caring society. Social mobility rates in Europe are far far less in Europe than in the U.S., how many new million aires do you produce a year? You may be able to scrape by but you aren't going to hit it big and with a 50% taxation rate it's no wonder why.

 

[Inuyasha]

Ludahai - 魯大海
So, I'll admit Catholism is all you, you must be a Catholic or something, but when you are ready to venture into the waters of the Christian bible, step up, the doors always open.


What the hell is this suppose to mean? You think Catholics are not Christians. We were Christians long before protestant bible thumping immoralist like Pat bin-Robertson or Jerry Falwell and your kind ever came along. Christian bible- WTF is that supposed to mean? I guess you are in Taiwan conquering the world with the bible and anti-Catholic hatered. So much for your love of your fellow man. Can you spell hypocrite. just look in the mirror it's tattooed in your forehead.