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Why I Left Islam

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Why I Left Islam is something that is brand new to me - a blog by a Muslim apostate. Since apostasy is punishable by death in Sharia states, the author seems to have taken a terrible risk to get these thoughts of his/her chest. Bret Stephens says the Palestinian authority is holding a man they think is the culprit -- if so, his future looks grim since individual thought is seriously frowned upon in that part of the world.
 
Thanks for that link.
I find myself agreeing with many of his criticisms of Islam as accurate and Muslims do have a problem with their apostates, a serious problem infact.
The problems facing them is much more immense than those who leave Christianity or Judaism, those who are not Muslims can not comprehend what a Ex Muslim would face leaving Islam. Even in the West

But saying that, Ex Muslims make their lives alot harder with some of their self appointed spokesmen. People like Ayaan hirsi who have thrown their lot in with the far right, with a childlike impression of Islam and who I can say I dislike intensely and deserves no respect from Muslims whereas people like the Palestinian blogger who I think have done no harm but highlight many problems within Islam.
 
I agree about the self-appointed spokespersons who bring discredit on the cause they claim to champion, but then I have that problem in a lot of areas -- CAIR, ACLU, quite a few Christian televangelists, and politicians of the left and right. I have seen Ayaan Hirsi Ali on television and I think she is too hard on Islam in general, although maybe not too hard on Islam-as-practiced as she has seen it.
 
I agree about the self-appointed spokespersons who bring discredit on the cause they claim to champion, but then I have that problem in a lot of areas -- CAIR, ACLU, quite a few Christian televangelists, and politicians of the left and right. I have seen Ayaan Hirsi Ali on television and I think she is too hard on Islam in general, although maybe not too hard on Islam-as-practiced as she has seen it.

It is not a matter of whether she is hard or not on Islam. I find her attempts at attacking Islam laughable. I also find her attempts at somehow speaking on behalf of Muslim women (even tho she is no longer Muslim as she renounced it) and Somali women as insulting. Acting as if she had such a horrific life in Somalia and blaming Islam for cultural practices (female circumcision).
The only reason she is such a big hit is because of her background. Being a Somali apostate is rare considering almost every Somali is a Sunni Muslim.

I have little problem with Ex Muslims critiquing and questioning Islam. Infact I think if done properly, will have a positive impact on Islam and Muslims who need to get used to criticism as it is not immune from it but when those Ex Muslims side with the Christian right. They do not deserve any attention from Muslims.

Ex Muslim converting to Christianity then attacking Islam I have a problem with as well. I'd rather Ex Muslims just be Atheists. I don't understand how someone can leave a Abrahamic faith and then go to another one instead of Atheism :confused:
 
After reading a few articles, it become quite obvious this guy's knowledge on Islam is very limited. I have never once seen Sharia spelled asn Charia. Or Sheikh as Cheikh.

The sacred texts in Islam also encourage blatant war and conquest of new territories to spread the religion of Muhammad, instead of using peaceful means to convey the message, relying only on a rational argumentative scheme; something that Islam, like any other religion for that matter, evidently lacks.

Except there is nothing in the Qur'an that encourages aggressive war or violence. Any moderate Muslim knows that violence may only be used as self-defense. Any knowledgeable Muslims knows about Muhammad's letters of invitation to Islam to numerous different people, most famous of which was sent to Emperor Heraclius.

Islam presented the Quraysh tribe as “the chosen tribe” to rule over the human race.
No, it did not.

Muhammad did not grant a single political responsibility to a person that was not from his tribe.
Yes, he did. There's Bilal ibn Ribah, Abdullah ibn Salam, Suhayb ar Rumi, Salman the Persian, Anas ibn Malik.

He says he's from Jerusalem. I wonder how he got such a great education living in occupied Jerusalem.
 
Acting as if she had such a horrific life in Somalia and blaming Islam for cultural practices (female circumcision).

Cultural practices should be separated from the spiritual side of religion, but there are still some disgusting cultural practices that occur only in Muslim countries. Why does the religion tolerate this?

Ex Muslim converting to Christianity then attacking Islam I have a problem with as well. I'd rather Ex Muslims just be Atheists.

Well, that's what this guy claims to be.

After reading a few articles, it become quite obvious this guy's knowledge on Islam is very limited. I have never once seen Sharia spelled asn Charia. Or Sheikh as Cheikh.

There really is no way to know who he really is, but if he is Palestinian as he claims I can overlook a few spelling errors. We have posters on this forum who routinely do much worse.
 
By the way, I just read through that link; it is filled with so much BS that I do not even know how to respond...

Do you guys truly believe in what is written there?
 
Do you guys truly believe in what is written there?
No more than any other blog. The presented "facts" should always be checked, no matter which way they spin.
 
But saying that, Ex Muslims make their lives alot harder with some of their self appointed spokesmen. People like Ayaan hirsi who have thrown their lot in with the far right, with a childlike impression of Islam and who I can say I dislike intensely and deserves no respect from Muslims whereas people like the Palestinian blogger who I think have done no harm but highlight many problems within Islam.

People like Ayaan made the journey from Somalia to the Netherlands, learned the language, helped other migrants learn dutch in her spare time, went to university, became a public servant, eventually became an MP who endorsed the rights of women, organised shelters and then put herself at risk again by criticising Islam. Not many of us are gifted enough to even make part of her journey.

FYI, Ayaan was chased out of NL by a politican from the far right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RnefFCnD2A
 
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Good for her.

I'm a Muslim who 'apostated' from Judaism (though I still identify as ethnically Jewish), and has had to keep it on the hush-hush for the past 5 years. No one from my community know - parents included. Maybe I should write a sad story about my life and see how many tears I soak up.

P.s. apostates are not killed in Islam. Those who are punished are those who unite against Islam with the enemy forces. During the days of the Prophet Muhammad (Saws), it was those who joined the persecutors of the Muslims. This is similar to the law in the Western world which punishes the treasonous with capital punishment. What some angry Muslims do, who largely are from immigrant backgrounds and do not understand the idea of people criticizing prophets, is something carried out on their own and in violation of Islamic law - which requires that a Muslim follow the law of his or her land. We also believe in the use of Hikmah (knowledge) in combating hate and disbelief.

But on another note, Ayaan Hirsi Ali has PERSONALLY been responsible for a lot of persecution of Muslims in Amsterdam. I have friends who are legitimately concerned about the future in their country, to such an extent that they are considering moving back to Morocco. The fear that she faces is nothing compared to the fear amongst Muslims that she has stirred up. She has full time security. The Muslims of Amsterdam have no certainty of protection. As a Muslim, but even more importantly as a human being, I fear for their future.
 
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Good for her.

I'm a Muslim who 'apostated' from Judaism (though I still identify as ethnically Jewish), and has had to keep it on the hush-hush for the past 5 years. No one from my community know - parents included. Maybe I should write a sad story about my life and see how many tears I soak up.
I don't know, I wouldn't compare apples with oranges.

P.s. apostates are not killed in Islam. Those who are punished are those who unite against Islam with the enemy forces. During the days of the Prophet Muhammad (Saws), it was those who joined the persecutors of the Muslims. This is similar to the law in the Western world which punishes the treasonous with capital punishment. What some angry Muslims do, who largely are from immigrant backgrounds and do not understand the idea of people criticizing prophets, is something carried out on their own and in violation of Islamic law - which requires that a Muslim follow the law of his or her land. We also believe in the use of Hikmah (knowledge) in combating hate and disbelief.
Well someone is threatening these people, and some have been murdered or beaten. Only recently, some idiot tried to axe that danish cartoonist. At the end of the day we're both served by combating those extremists.

But on another note, Ayaan Hirsi Ali has PERSONALLY been responsible for a lot of persecution of Muslims in Amsterdam. I have friends who are legitimately concerned about the future in their country, to such an extent that they are considering moving back to Morocco. The fear that she faces is nothing compared to the fear amongst Muslims that she has stirred up. She has full time security. The Muslims of Amsterdam have no certainty of protection. As a Muslim, but even more importantly as a human being, I fear for their future.

Name one persecution and I'll give you credits for it, name me one that's remotely related to Ayaan and I'll concede the point. Muslims are not targeted in A'dam, their beliefs or some of their beliefs are under fire, but I don't think you're doing the maroccan community justice by suggesting they would scare away from the battle of ideas. The rights of muslims are better protected in A'dam than most of the islamic world.
 
I don't know, I wouldn't compare apples with oranges.

How is it comparing apples and oranges? I always hear these tragic sounding stories in the Middle East of someone becoming Christian and having to hide it from their family due to fears of oppression. It is always such a tearjerker. Okay, well I hide my religion for the very same reason, and yet you think it is comparing apples with oranges. What is the difference?

Well someone is threatening these people, and some have been murdered or beaten. Only recently, some idiot tried to axe that danish cartoonist. At the end of the day we're both served by combating those extremists.

People are not murdered or beaten for leaving Islam. They are [often wrongly] attacked for fighting against Islam (verbal or physical). Lets move away from the case of Ayaan Hirsi Ali in this example, for she is a politician with societal impact. However, every society has set their rules and limits of free-speech. In most of Europe, Holocaust denial is a punishable crime. Hate speech in much of the Western world is punishable as well. That limit is set at a different place in most Muslim societies, and that is only natural seeing as they are oftentimes less diverse. The openness to free speech comes along with a pluralistic and diverse society. But you should know that the Islamic system traditionally established an EXTREMELY free society, that if you wish evidence of, I will gladly provide. However, it did not allow people to sink to these miserable and disgusting insults. Instead, it encouraged academic discussion and respectful complaints. I will gladly elaborate, if you so please.

We do believe that all matters relevant to oneself is between that individual and God. That is why in Islam, no sin is punishable if done privately in the confines of one's home. It is only punishable when it is carried out in public, thereby effecting others and pulling them away from Islam. But it should be noted that Islam requires one to follow the law of their land. We believe that on the day of judgement, we will be asked not only regarding God's laws, but the laws of the land in which we resided as well.

Name one persecution and I'll give you credits for it, name me one that's remotely related to Ayaan and I'll concede the point. Muslims are not targeted in A'dam, their beliefs or some of their beliefs are under fire, but I don't think you're doing the maroccan community justice by suggesting they would scare away from the battle of ideas. The rights of muslims are better protected in A'dam than most of the islamic world.

Give this a looksy: YouTube - Mr Controversial - Holland

I'm not saying it is violent just yet. This is the lead up. Things built up, and watch that video, and you'll see exactly what I mean. She and Geert Wilders often work together. They are one in the same. Hate starts with speech - especially when targeted against a minority. As the saying goes: where they burn books, they will soon burn bodies.
 
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How is it comparing apples and oranges? I always hear these tragic sounding stories in the Middle East of someone becoming Christian and having to hide it from their family due to fears of oppression. It is always such a tearjerker. Okay, well I hide my religion for the very same reason, and yet you think it is comparing apples with oranges. What is the difference?
Because we were comparing your story with Ayaans. Untill you freed yourself from your judaic 'oppressors', migrate to another country, study the language, get your doctorates and become a member of parliament, it will remain a rather pale comparison. It's not a bigger tearjerker, simply a lot more interesting. Other than that I might be very interested in hearing your personal story.

People are not murdered or beaten for leaving Islam. They are [often wrongly] attacked for fighting against Islam (verbal or physical). Lets move away from the case of Ayaan Hirsi Ali in this example, for she is a politician with societal impact. However, every society has set their rules and limits of free-speech. In most of Europe, Holocaust denial is a punishable crime. Hate speech in much of the Western world is punishable as well. That limit is set at a different place in most Muslim societies, and that is only natural seeing as they are oftentimes less diverse. The openness to free speech comes along with a pluralistic and diverse society. But you should know that the Islamic system traditionally established an EXTREMELY free society, that if you wish evidence of, I will gladly provide. However, it did not allow people to sink to these miserable and disgusting insults. Instead, it encouraged academic discussion and respectful complaints. I will gladly elaborate, if you so please.
Attacked for criticising Islam, not 'fighting' Islam, no arms involved here. Aside from that different interpretation, yours doesn't give me much more comfort either. I can't accept the fact we couldn't criticise Islam, or combat its doctrines, without risking threats and/or violence.
Historically, islam established a freer society when compared to Europe's dark ages, when christianity was about burning witches and buying your ticket to heaven. Muslims should, in my view, set their goals higher than that.

We do believe that all matters relevant to oneself is between that individual and God. That is why in Islam, no sin is punishable if done privately in the confines of one's home. It is only punishable when it is carried out in public, thereby effecting others and pulling them away from Islam. But it should be noted that Islam requires one to follow the law of their land. We believe that on the day of judgement, we will be asked not only regarding God's laws, but the laws of the land in which we resided as well.
I find this very interesting but there's a certain paradox in the way islamic countries put it to use. I would like you to elaborate on that.

Give this a looksy: YouTube - Mr Controversial - Holland

I'm not saying it is violent just yet. This is the lead up. Things built up, and watch that video, and you'll see exactly what I mean. She and Geert Wilders often work together. They are one in the same. Hate starts with speech - especially when targeted against a minority. As the saying goes: where they burn books, they will soon burn bodies.
It could also be an unreasonable fear. If it happens, we will have to deal with it. In the meantime, few countries do as much as NL to combat racism. I was taught about Islam and other religions in school because our politicians think that knowledge of our differences leads to better understanding. I agree with that view but I also believe we have to be willing to discuss our differences and put our views up for debate.
Looking at the statistics and simply following the news, the situation is pretty violent for a jew or gay person in certain parts of A'dam. Or for a maroccan journaliste, who happens to be secular. Beaten up because she embraces modernity and, according to her attackers, "dressed like a whore". Wilders didn't come out of nothing, the failure of our politicians to adress these isseus leads to more polarisation.
 
After reading a few articles, it become quite obvious this guy's knowledge on Islam is very limited. I have never once seen Sharia spelled asn Charia. Or Sheikh as Cheikh.

The sacred texts in Islam also encourage blatant war and conquest of new territories to spread the religion of Muhammad, instead of using peaceful means to convey the message, relying only on a rational argumentative scheme; something that Islam, like any other religion for that matter, evidently lacks.

Except there is nothing in the Qur'an that encourages aggressive war or violence. Any moderate Muslim knows that violence may only be used as self-defense. Any knowledgeable Muslims knows about Muhammad's letters of invitation to Islam to numerous different people, most famous of which was sent to Emperor Heraclius.

Islam presented the Quraysh tribe as “the chosen tribe” to rule over the human race.
No, it did not.

Muhammad did not grant a single political responsibility to a person that was not from his tribe.
Yes, he did. There's Bilal ibn Ribah, Abdullah ibn Salam, Suhayb ar Rumi, Salman the Persian, Anas ibn Malik.

He says he's from Jerusalem. I wonder how he got such a great education living in occupied Jerusalem.

To say that there is nothing in the Koran "that encourages aggressive war or violence" is utter nonsense. Not only does the Koran "encourage blatant war and conquest of new territories to spread the religion of Muhammad", as the writer said, but the Koran commands this genocidal mass murder, and this is the reason why 270 million people (129 million Africans, 60 million Christians, 80 million Hindus, & 10 million Buddists) have been killed by marauding Muslims following these insane commands. It was only until 1905 that the West finally liberated its territory previosly savaged by Islam, marking the end of 1400 years of Islamic rule and jihad.
(Jamie Glazov, "The Infidel Revolution", frontpagemagazine.com, February 21, 2007.)
Nothing in the Quran. Good grief ! The book is loaded with examples of commands of genocide against infidels (non-Muslims). Here's just a few examples : (there are many more) :

1. "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, [even if they are] the people of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.." (the Koran 9:29).
2. "Allah purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs in return is the Garden of Paradise: they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth (the Koran 9:111).
3. "Slay the idolators wherever you find them." (the Koran 9:5).
4. "I will inspire terror in the hearts of Unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them" (the Koran 8:2).

Like it or not, ever since after the death of Mohammed, his legacy can be summed up in one word : Conquest. And the evidence of it isn't just 622 A.D. (the Hijra) - 751 A.D. by which time Islam had conquered more of the earth than the Roman empire at its peak. It is in the 20th century, and well into the 21st.
 
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It is not a matter of whether she is hard or not on Islam. I find her attempts at attacking Islam laughable. I also find her attempts at somehow speaking on behalf of Muslim women (even tho she is no longer Muslim as she renounced it) and Somali women as insulting. Acting as if she had such a horrific life in Somalia and blaming Islam for cultural practices (female circumcision).
The only reason she is such a big hit is because of her background. Being a Somali apostate is rare considering almost every Somali is a Sunni Muslim.

I have little problem with Ex Muslims critiquing and questioning Islam. Infact I think if done properly, will have a positive impact on Islam and Muslims who need to get used to criticism as it is not immune from it but when those Ex Muslims side with the Christian right. They do not deserve any attention from Muslims.

Ex Muslim converting to Christianity then attacking Islam I have a problem with as well. I'd rather Ex Muslims just be Atheists. I don't understand how someone can leave a Abrahamic faith and then go to another one instead of Atheism :confused:

And you maybe can find some other source (other than Islam) to blame for this atrocity (as well as dozens of other examples of atrocious Islamic behavior - genocide, misogyny, pedophilia, slavery, banning of music, torture, dismemberment, etc.) ????????
 
How is it comparing apples and oranges? I always hear these tragic sounding stories in the Middle East of someone becoming Christian and having to hide it from their family due to fears of oppression. It is always such a tearjerker. Okay, well I hide my religion for the very same reason, and yet you think it is comparing apples with oranges. What is the difference?



People are not murdered or beaten for leaving Islam. They are [often wrongly] attacked for fighting against Islam (verbal or physical). Lets move away from the case of Ayaan Hirsi Ali in this example, for she is a politician with societal impact. However, every society has set their rules and limits of free-speech. In most of Europe, Holocaust denial is a punishable crime. Hate speech in much of the Western world is punishable as well. That limit is set at a different place in most Muslim societies, and that is only natural seeing as they are oftentimes less diverse. The openness to free speech comes along with a pluralistic and diverse society. But you should know that the Islamic system traditionally established an EXTREMELY free society, that if you wish evidence of, I will gladly provide. However, it did not allow people to sink to these miserable and disgusting insults. Instead, it encouraged academic discussion and respectful complaints. I will gladly elaborate, if you so please.

We do believe that all matters relevant to oneself is between that individual and God. That is why in Islam, no sin is punishable if done privately in the confines of one's home. It is only punishable when it is carried out in public, thereby effecting others and pulling them away from Islam. But it should be noted that Islam requires one to follow the law of their land. We believe that on the day of judgement, we will be asked not only regarding God's laws, but the laws of the land in which we resided as well.



Give this a looksy: YouTube - Mr Controversial - Holland

I'm not saying it is violent just yet. This is the lead up. Things built up, and watch that video, and you'll see exactly what I mean. She and Geert Wilders often work together. They are one in the same. Hate starts with speech - especially when targeted against a minority. As the saying goes: where they burn books, they will soon burn bodies.

Oh this is a real dandy one, this is. So now Wilders and his film Fitna are to be blamed. For what ? Telling the truth about the connection of the Koran and the violence that it inspires ?
In the film, Wilders cites Koran suras 8:60, 47:4, 4:89, and 8:39. All examples of Islamic justification for acts of barbarism. So did this come from Wilders ? No, it came from Muslims and the Koran. And the open declarations of Muslim killers demonstrate the link between their murders and the Koran (ex. 1 - Mohammed Bouyeri - "What moved me to do what I did was purely my faith", ex. 2 - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - "The Prophet, the most merciful, ordered [his army] to strike the necks of some prisoners in [the battle of] Badr, and to kill them..and he set a good example for us".)
By supporting this film, Muslims who oppose global jihad, could begin to reform the Koran and thereby reform Islam (Catholics reformed themselves in the 16th century didn't they ?). Otherwise, we have a continuation of Isalm's supremacist and violent teachings which make it impossible for Muslims (who truly are Muslims & follow the Koran) to coexist peacefully with non-Muslims.

Quotes -
Bouyeri > Phillipe Naughton, "Van Gogh killer jailed for life", Times Online, July 26, 2005.
Zarqawi > Steven Stalinsky, "Dealing in Death, National Review, May 24, 2004.
 
People like Ayaan hirsi who have thrown their lot in with the far right

Not the far right, but simply those who support the values she advocates. Since the European left has so thoroughly abandoned liberalism in favor of a lock-step political orthodoxy that acts against human rights, then in order to find support for human rights, she really has no choice but to turn elsewhere.
 
People are not murdered or beaten for leaving Islam. They are [often wrongly] attacked for fighting against Islam (verbal or physical). .


People are murdered for criticizing Islam, with fatwas issued calling for their death.

If you could provide some examples within Judaism in this regard, I would be very interested in reading them. Is their a strong Rabinical tradition towards ordering the death of those who criticize Judaism?
 
There is no right or left to the opposition to Islamization. It is similar to the defense of nations in the 1930's and 40's, when another fascist movement to conquer the world was rampant > Nazism.
Everyone banned together to stop the tyrants (and the Japanese as well). The top tax rate in the USA went up to 94% without even a whimper from the super rich. Everyone knew it was do or die.
With Islamization, we have 2 jihads. Violent and Stealth. Both seek to overthrow democratic government and replace with Islamic (Sharia ) law. As the title of the New York Times bestseller by Brigitte Gabriel says : They Must Be Stopped. Those who put this issue into political framework of left and right are engaging in stupidity.
 
Not the far right, but simply those who support the values she advocates. Since the European left has so thoroughly abandoned liberalism in favor of a lock-step political orthodoxy that acts against human rights, then in order to find support for human rights, she really has no choice but to turn elsewhere.

She is a liar, a feminist when it suits her and a little attention whore who is using the fact she is a Somali apostate to make money. She has never spent decades of her life studying Islam to the extent of our Imams and Sheikhs who in many cases have spent up to 40 years dedicated to the texts and yet she claims she understands it.

She is Ethiopian and a disgrace as far as I'm concerned. I hope she enjoys her stay with the far right, her views are worthless to Muslims. No wonder the far right love her, she sold her soul to them and says exactly what they wish to hear.
 
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People like Ayaan made the journey from Somalia to the Netherlands, learned the language, helped other migrants learn dutch in her spare time, went to university, became a public servant, eventually became an MP who endorsed the rights of women, organised shelters and then put herself at risk again by criticising Islam. Not many of us are gifted enough to even make part of her journey.

FYI, Ayaan was chased out of NL by a politican from the far right.

YouTube - Christopher Hitchens on Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Salman Rushdie

She also lied about her forms and tricked her way in. Last I checked, that is against the law.

I see nothing wrong that happened to her :shrug:
 
To say that there is nothing in the Koran "that encourages aggressive war or violence" is utter nonsense.
Well, having it read it a few dozen times in four different languages, I can say it is not utter nonsense. Having written a graduate thesis on it a decade ago, I can say it is not utter nonsense.
Not only does the Koran "encourage blatant war and conquest of new territories to spread the religion of Muhammad", as the writer said, but the Koran commands this genocidal mass murder, and this is the reason why 270 million people (129 million Africans, 60 million Christians, 80 million Hindus, & 10 million Buddists) have been killed by marauding Muslims following these insane commands.
ROFL! Look at the way your source gets these numbers:
Thomas Sowell estimates that eleven million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and fourteen million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached the plantation, five others died by being killed in the raid or died on the forced march from illness and privation. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have the collateral death of about 120 million people. Muslims ran all the wholesale slave trade in Africa. Death toll: 120 million Africans

The number of Christians martyred by Islam is nine million. A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another fifty million died in wars by jihad. So to account for the one million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have: 60 million Christians


If you're honestly going to try peddling this bullcrap around, at least use objective sources that do not use fallacious reasoning to make conclusions. Muslims did not run the wholesale slave trade in Africa. They are also putting the 9 million African slaves that American and British Christians forcefully took under that same ridiculous umbrella.

At least find a reputable source for these numbers, otherwise they are mere propaganda.
It was only until 1905 that the West finally liberated its territory previosly savaged by Islam, marking the end of 1400 years of Islamic rule and jihad.
LOL! The Middle East was territory belonging to the West? I guess you'd be one of those propagandists who'd say World War I and II were started by Muslims and that the Final Solution was actually a Muslim invention :roll:

(Jamie Glazov, "The Infidel Revolution", frontpagemagazine.com, February 21, 2007.)
Nothing in the Quran. Good grief ! The book is loaded with examples of commands of genocide against infidels (non-Muslims). Here's just a few examples : (there are many more) :
Book? It's your source and you think of it as a book? It's an interview with a bigot. A bigot who makes inaccurate and false statements. Great source! An example of your source's non-credibility:
Warner: A dhimmi is a second class citizen of an Islamic state. They can remain Christian or Jew, but pay a special tax and have very few legal rights. They are forbidden to study the Koran.
"Special tax" - Jizya is a poll tax and it's far less than what Muslims pay for Zakat in an Islamic state (which dhimmis do not have to pay). They have the same legal rights as Muslims, depending on the state. There is discrimination, just like there is discrimination in America against Muslims. They are free to study the Qur'an whenever they want. Why would Muslims stop others from reading their holy book? That is a ridiculous assertion by your ridiculous source.

1. "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, [even if they are] the people of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.." (the Koran 9:29).
Yay! Out of context quotes from the Qur'an. I can do the same with the Bible and Old Testament, yet no one would give them the light of day because they are out of context. Anyways, the Surah you are quoting here has to do with a treaty made between the Muslims and the Quraish (a pagan tribe in Mecca). The Quraish violated this treaty and were given three options. They chose the to dissolve the treaty and persecute the Muslims. What the Muslims did afterward was in self-defense.
2. "Allah purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs in return is the Garden of Paradise: they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth (the Koran 9:111).
Same Surah, yet this one has absolutely nothing to do with aggressive war. Good job there!
3. "Slay the idolators wherever you find them." (the Koran 9:5).
Same Surah, yet you left off the ayat before it:
Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).
And you "somehow forgot" to include this part from the ayat you quoted:
but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
4. "I will inspire terror in the hearts of Unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them" (the Koran 8:2).
LOL! Have you even read the Qur'an? Completely, not off some Islamophobic website that you set as your homepage? Just an FYI, the above isn't even close to being accurate of Surah 8 Ayat 2:
They only are the (true) believers whose hearts feel fear when Allah is mentioned, and when His revelations are recited unto them they increase their faith, and who trust in their Lord;
Yes, this is such a great quote for you to use to show that Islam is all about aggressive war! :roll: It's quite obvious you just copied and pasted them from some ignorant website that only serves to assuage your preconceived agenda.
Like it or not, ever since after the death of Mohammed, his legacy can be summed up in one word : Conquest. And the evidence of it isn't just 622 A.D. (the Hijra) - 751 A.D. by which time Islam had conquered more of the earth than the Roman empire at its peak. It is in the 20th century, and well into the 21st.
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The Roman Empire, at its peak, was only 6.5 million km2 big and that was around 117 AD. Not really a good comparison. The British Empire (the largest in the world) was 33.7 million km2 in 1946. The Russian Empire and the Spanish Empire were all bigger than any Islamic empire. Each empire I listed above were all connected to Christianity. Using your logic, I could make the statement that Christianity is the root cause of foreign imperialism. Of course, your logic is flawed and faulty, so I will not use it.
 
After reading a few articles, it become quite obvious this guy's knowledge on Islam is very limited. I have never once seen Sharia spelled asn Charia. Or Sheikh as Cheikh.

That's actually the French spelling of the words. I noticed that his blog has Arabic and French versions. I can't read Arabic, but the French version is excellent and obviously written by a native French speaker. I'm guessing that the English version was translated from the French.
 
That's actually the French spelling of the words. I noticed that his blog has Arabic and French versions. I can't read Arabic, but the French version is excellent and obviously written by a native French speaker. I'm guessing that the English version was translated from the French.

It's a transliteration, not a translation. Either way, how does a "Muslim" born in occupied Jerusalem learn French fluently, yet have such a limited understanding of his own religion?
 
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