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Red_Dave said:according to alot of people on here universial healthcare is quite a popular idea in the U.S. If this is so then why havent any of the more liberal states implemented it? To me it seams a daft idea to wait for the federal government to implement it as it would be ineffient if ran centrally.
Red_Dave said:according to alot of people on here universial healthcare is quite a popular idea in the U.S. If this is so then why havent any of the more liberal states implemented it?
Stinger said:It's quite popular with people who don't work and want someone else to get up in the morning and go out and earn the money it takes to support them. Us hardworking stiffs want nothing to do with and especially don't want government running our health care.
jamesrage said:Why it has not been implemented?
This is a fantasy
Americans like keeping the moeny they earn.Red_Dave said:the rest of the first world manages to afford it
Stinger said:Us hardworking stiffs want nothing to do with and especially don't want government running our health care.
barefootguy said:I agree 100%. Nobody that I know of is proposing a government run healthcare system, just government funded. It would still be privately owned and operated as it is today. Another issue I failed to bring up in my previous post is that people w/o insurance are costing us a lot of money by going to the emergency room for a cold. If they had insurance, they'd be able to go to a regular clinic for a lot less money. It would actually be cheaper for us to insure 100% of the population than it is to insure 85% as we are now.
barefootguy said:Nobody that I know of is proposing a government run healthcare system, just government funded.
barefootguy said:I agree 100%. Nobody that I know of is proposing a government run healthcare system, just government funded. It would still be privately owned and operated as it is today.
barefootguy said:Another issue I failed to bring up in my previous post is that people w/o insurance are costing us a lot of money by going to the emergency room for a cold. If they had insurance, they'd be able to go to a regular clinic for a lot less money.
barefootguy said:It would actually be cheaper for us to insure 100% of the population than it is to insure 85% as we are now.
barefootguy said:I agree 100%. Nobody that I know of is proposing a government run healthcare system, just government funded.
It would still be privately owned and operated as it is today.
Another issue I failed to bring up in my previous post is that people w/o insurance are costing us a lot of money by going to the emergency room for a cold.
If they had insurance, they'd be able to go to a regular clinic for a lot less money. It would actually be cheaper for us to insure 100% of the population than it is to insure 85% as we are now.
Red_Dave said:according to alot of people on here universial healthcare is quite a popular idea in the U.S. If this is so then why havent any of the more liberal states implemented it? To me it seams a daft idea to wait for the federal government to implement it as it would be ineffient if ran centrally.
Calm2Chaos said:I don't know who these "alot of people" are. I don't know anyone personally that wants Universal Healthcare. But I am not paying for your healthcare. I don't want universal healthcare, and I damm sure don't want it being controlled by the state. End up waiting for months to get an appointment with a doctor, and or specialist.... Na ... i'll muddle through
Willoughby said:it really does astonish me that a country that sees itself so progressive and modern doesn't have any type of universal healthcare.
Willoughby said:In the UK we have had the National Health Service for fifty odd years and it has served as fantastically. There were dire predictions about people going to the doctor or a+e (ER) for just a cold all the time but those didn't materalise. the general state of welfare provision in the UK is excellant. I don't want to paint a rose-tinted picture about it, sure we have some problems but the NHS is something that i think ever country should adopt. I just don't see the arguments against it as credible.
Just on another note how much of a social welfare scheme is there in the US i.e. benefits system, council houses etc?
And it astonishes me that so many people have come to associate socialism and inefficient government bureaucracy with being "progressive and modern."
And even this is not BECAUSE it is socialized, but DESPITE it. The fact that British health care isn't a complete disaster compared to American health care, is explainable by the facts that Britons simply live healthier lifestyles than Americans do, and Britons don't routinely sue their doctors for even the slightest error.
hasn't happened over hereWhen universal healthcare is implemented, only idiots will practice medicine. Anyone with a brain will be doing something else. .
Willoughby said:it really does astonish me that a country that sees itself so progressive and modern doesn't have any type of universal healthcare. In the UK we have had the National Health Service for fifty odd years and it has served as fantastically. There were dire predictions about people going to the doctor or a+e (ER) for just a cold all the time but those didn't materalise. the general state of welfare provision in the UK is excellant. I don't want to paint a rose-tinted picture about it, sure we have some problems but the NHS is something that i think ever country should adopt. I just don't see the arguments against it as credible.
Just on another note how much of a social welfare scheme is there in the US i.e. benefits system, council houses etc?
And how many people does your UH system cover in the UK?
Willoughby said:every single person and its cheaper than your system
Willoughby said:every single person and its cheaper than your system
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