Why do some DP theists always choose willful ignorance?

[Lloyd Christmas]

When it comes to “atheism“ and/or “atheist”, why do some theists at DP constantly and repeatedly chose willful ignorance over facts?

We’ve explained hundreds of times what the basic definition of those words mean, yet every new thread reveals undeniable willful ignorance from theists.

There’s been entire threads devoted to definitions.
It’s been stated hundreds of times, in hundreds of threads. Often to the exact same theists.

Yet some theists here still chose to get it WRONG in every damn thread that’s created.

Why?

As a theist, why can’t you accept a basic and simple definition?
Why chose willful ignorance when presented with facts and definitions?
Especially when it’s information and definitions coming from actual atheists?

Why is it so difficult to accept a very simple concept?
It’s a verifiable fact that the majority of people on planet Earth don’t believe in the “god” YOU believe in.
So why is it so hard to understand that some people don’t believe in any god at all?

Why do you willfully chose to ignore what you’re told?
Also, why do you chose to make up ridiculous nonsense to support your willful ignorance?
For example, “Russia/Putin is a perfect representation of atheistic ideology.“

Is this how organized religion trains one to think?

People who don't have facts to support their beliefs, no matter what they are, will play dumb, dodge and deflect.

 

[Questerr]

Let's see if you can figure it out...

"So, then, each of us will render an account for himself to God." Romans 14:12

So God determines who does and does not count as Christians, which means you cannot pronounce someone as being not a “True Christian” yes?

 

[Daisy]

So God determines who does and does not count as Christians, which means you cannot pronounce someone as being not a “True Christian” yes?

Wrong..."by their fruits you will know them"...Jehovah expects us to use sound judgment...that's why he gave us a thinking brain...here's another hint...

"But let each one examine his own actions,+ and then he will have cause for rejoicing in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person." Galatians 6:4

 

[Questerr]

Wrong..."by their fruits you will know them"...Jehovah expects us to use sound judgment...that's why he gave us a thinking brain...here's another hint...

"But let each one examine his own actions,+ and then he will have cause for rejoicing in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person." Galatians 6:4

So how many “fruits” is one allowed to have before they no longer count as Christian?

And where is that line defined in the Bible?

 

[Daisy]

So how many “fruits” is one allowed to have before they no longer count as Christian?

And where is that line defined in the Bible?

Didn't think you'd get it...

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

Why belong to a debate website?

Also, why do athiest care about what religious people say? Because there are many of them that are assholes that can't shut up about their stupid beliefs, they try to preach to everybody, and worse, they try to pass laws based on their fantastical belief.

The questions should be, why do so many religious people not just shut up about their belief, and why do they try to argue it as true if all they have is belief and faith?

 

[Questerr]

Didn't think you'd get it...

You can’t provide a segment from scripture that defines such a line?

That would mean any such line invented by yourself to call someone “not a True Christian” would be a “man made” invention wouldn’t it?

Doesn’t your cult hate it when people insert extra-Biblical ideas into Christianity?

 

[Daisy]

You can’t provide a segment from scripture that defines such a line?

That would mean any such line invented by yourself to call someone “not a True Christian” would be a “man made” invention wouldn’t it?

Doesn’t your cult hate it when people insert extra-Biblical ideas into Christianity?

Why do you think the Bible says this? Is this not judging for ourselves, what associates are bad or good?

"Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits." 1 Corinthians 15:33

 

[Questerr]

Why do you think the Bible says this? Is this not judging for ourselves, what associates are bad or good?

"Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits." 1 Corinthians 15:33

And where does the Bible define just how bad a person can be before they not longer count as “True Christians”?

 

[Daisy]

And where does the Bible define just how bad a person can be before they not longer count as “True Christians”?

Throughout the Bible, you will find the guidelines...read it...study it...and then you will know...

 

[Questerr]

Throughout the Bible, you will find the guidelines...read it...study it...and then you will know...

I looked. I can’t find them.

You claim they exist and are clearly defined, you should be able to present them.

 

[Daisy]

I looked. I can’t find them.

You claim they exist and are clearly defined, you should be able to present them.

 

[Questerr]

Interesting that a “True Christian” can even provide quotes that back up their word. Makes one think they might actually be a “False Christian” intentionally sinning by bearing false witness.

 

[Daisy]

Interesting that a “True Christian” can even provide quotes that back up their word. Makes one think they might actually be a “False Christian” intentionally sinning by bearing false witness.

Sorry, there are too many to quote...find them for yourself...

 

[it's just me]

Also, why do athiest care about what religious people say? Because there are many of them that are assholes that can't shut up about their stupid beliefs, they try to preach to everybody, and worse, they try to pass laws based on their fantastical belief.

The questions should be, why do so many religious people not just shut up about their belief, and why do they try to argue it as true if all they have is belief and faith?

^ Projection. Why can't atheists shut up about their stupid beliefs?

 

[it's just me]

I looked. I can’t find them.

You claim they exist and are clearly defined, you should be able to present them.

You need to look closer, they are in there.

 

[Questerr]

Sorry, there are too many to quote...find them for yourself...

I can’t find any that give a clearly defined line. But I do find multiple that say that any sin can be forgiven and one’s “True Christian” status can be maintained if they ask God for forgiveness. Do you have telepathy to tell if someone has asked God for forgiveness? Or is that something that would be totally unknown to you and thus make your pronouncement someone “isn’t a True Christian” a position based on false judgement?

 

[Questerr]

You need to look closer, they are in there.

Then you should be able to provide quotes.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

^ Projection. Why can't atheists shut up about their stupid beliefs?

You just embarrassed your self with that idiocy. You got nothing, you are trolling and deflecting, par for the course from factless thiests LOL

Athiests don't stand on corners preaching, they don't hand out fliers , dont' wear clothing and religious symbols and keep blabbing about their faith, don't knock on doors trying to convert people, they dont' make public spectacles of prayer in public, there are no athiest programming on TV showing services or trying to convert people, and they don't try to force laws based on their beliefs like religious people.

How embarrassing to put forth such a stupid , obvious, unintelligent trolling post

 

[devildavid]

You need to look closer, they are in there.

So you should be able to show it is so, not just claim it to be so. Which underlines the problem with all religious beliefs. You can only see something when you believe, and not believe when you see something.

 

[Daisy]

I can’t find any that give a clearly defined line. But I do find multiple that say that any sin can be forgiven and one’s “True Christian” status can be maintained if they ask God for forgiveness. Do you have telepathy to tell if someone has asked God for forgiveness? Or is that something that would be totally unknown to you and thus make your pronouncement someone “isn’t a True Christian” a position based on false judgement?

If one is still practicing sin, their repentance means nothing...

“Repent,+ therefore, and turn around+ so as to get your sins blotted out,+ so that seasons of refreshing may come from Jehovah himself." Acts 3:19

 

[Questerr]

If one is still practicing sin, their repentance means nothing...

“Repent,+ therefore, and turn around+ so as to get your sins blotted out,+ so that seasons of refreshing may come from Jehovah himself." Acts 3:19

So if you sin and repent, you are then expected to be perfect in regards to never committing that sin again?

 

[Daisy]

So if you sin and repent, you are then expected to be perfect in regards to never committing that sin again?

Not perfect, but God certainly expects you to refrain from doing what you asked repentance for...there is more than ONE sin, ya know...

 

[Gordy327]

^ Projection. Why can't atheists shut up about their stupid beliefs?

What "beliefs" are atheists espousing?

 

[devildavid]

An open box with nothing in it


This is typical of the vacuous comments we get from you. It means nothing but it gives you something to say - made up nonsense.

The made up nonsense is all religious beliefs, which some mistakenly think have substance.