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Why did you pick atheism?

I like thought crime
 
Loulit01 said:
What if he doesn't have enough money? Then it's not a choice.
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It's your choice not to work harder to make more money and get hair therefore again..a choice. Look at me sounding like a republican. Pull up your bootstraps!
 
Loulit01 said:
If there is a God, He allows little girls to get raped. He allows priests to molest little boys, famine, fires, tsunamis, earthquakes, genocides, war after war after war after war. God has destroyed the world by flood, cities by fire, there's the book of Job. If there is a God He's an evil, childish, sadistic failure.

So I choose to believe there's no God. I'm an atheist.
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Spot on, Lou (y)
 
Loulit01 said:
If there is a God, He allows little girls to get raped. He allows priests to molest little boys, famine, fires, tsunamis, earthquakes, genocides, war after war after war after war. God has destroyed the world by flood, cities by fire, there's the book of Job. If there is a God He's an evil, childish, sadistic failure.

So I choose to believe there's no God. I'm an atheist.
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And the system better than free will is......?
 
Roger Duke said:
We shouldn't discuss beliefs and skepticism on a beliefs and skepticism forum?
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Of course but why does it matter which they identify as? Is your goal to reconvert?
 
Roger Duke said:
You could be a theist and have hope that something is out there besides a cold dark eternal death.
You could be an agnostic and admit the truth; that neither theism nor atheism can be shown to be correct with our current knowledge.
But you made the bold choice of atheism and used the evidence (and lack of evidence) available to you, to Iive out the rest of your days, confident that when your life is over it's over, and it didn't matter that you didn't matter.....and it didn't matter that the Universe itself didn't matter. Why is that more appealing to you than the other two choices?
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Belief is not a conscious choice. You can’t just decide to believe unicorns are real. A person can want something to be true and convince him/herself it is, or want something not to be true and convince themselves it’s not, but that’s almost entirely subconscious.

I was raised to believe in the Christian God, but as I grew older it made less and less sense.

Could it be that one or more beings we would call a god exists? I don’t know because I have no way of determining what such a being would be like or if those conditions are possible. But I see no reason to think any do exist.

It is impossible to disprove a Deist god: one that created everything and then had no more direct contact. But is there any reason to believe it’s true? I would say no.
 
AJG said:
We're atheists, not nihilists. We can still believe in moral principles and that life has meaning even if we reject religion.
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I never said otherwise. I'm not talking about life though....I'm talking about after life is done. I'm talking about picking nothingness when you have the option to pick hope. If you are wrong and there is no God, you'd never even know it.
 
Famine, fires, tsunamis & earthquakes do not fall under "free will", they fall under something generally recognized as "Acts of God" so in essence you're saying God has free will and He chooses to inflict these on His creatures. Maybe for fun.
Little boys and girls do not possess enough "free will" in muscle form to beat the shit out of a molesting priest or we'd read about it in the papers.

The so called "free will" that you speak of is in direct opposition to the values promoted by millions of bible thumpers known as "might makes right".
Face it, you are not God, neither are your friends, neither are your favorite politicians and neither are any of your favorite God SALESMEN.
They SAY that they speak for God, but I spoke to God last night and He said He hates their guts.

So you must be calling MY God a liar if you disagree.
 
Schism said:
Nope. Atheism is a decision and a choice.

Baldness is not.
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If god is perfect, why did he have to make imperfect beings, knowing they were imperfect, and punish them for not being perfect, and making them constantly kiss his ass or he will punish them for eternity? What an ego! What a needy (imperfect) being.

What an asshole.

But...he loves you, and he gives painful cancer to children.
 
Roger Duke said:
I never said otherwise. I'm not talking about life though....I'm talking about after life is done. I'm talking about picking nothingness when you have the option to pick hope. If you are wrong and there is no God, you'd never even know it.
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You are talking about picking reality over fantasy.
 
AJG said:
. But my brain knows deep down that every miracle and phenomenon can or will be explained by science one day, and I don't think I can get past that.
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This is quite a high hope when you consider how science really works. Every time we find an answer we create 100 new questions so science will never win the battle to know everything. In fact, if you are familiar with The Theory of Everything you know it is grossly mislabeled.
 
Roger Duke said:
You could be a theist and have hope that something is out there besides a cold dark eternal death.
You could be an agnostic and admit the truth; that neither theism nor atheism can be shown to be correct with our current knowledge.
But you made the bold choice of atheism and used the evidence (and lack of evidence) available to you, to Iive out the rest of your days, Why does it have to be some bold choice?
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If you werent raised with any specific faith...wouldnt it seem odd to just believe in some unprovable myths? Your faith may seem like more than that to you, but why should something with no proof have meaning to someone else? There are other valid paths of personal discovery and meaning available.

That's why different people discover different beliefs and philosophies in life. They find things that have meaning for them. An atheiest may find meaning in some other philosophy or path or perspective besides a religion. Is there something wrong with that? Something you find hard to believe or unacceptable in that? If so, please explain.

Roger Duke said:
confident that when your life is over it's over, and it didn't matter that you didn't matter.....and it didn't matter that the Universe itself didn't matter. Why is that more appealing to you than the other two choices?
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And btw, dont you think that's the opposite of (if you're Christian) what God wants? He wants us to share and bring others to know Him, to know His Message. And here you are, just asking "hey, why dont you believe in my god, he's making you a better deal!" That's selfish. God's Word of compassion, brotherly love, forgiveness, and peace is all about how we're supposed to behave and treat others here on Earth.

If you are a person who understands science and reality, and do not have faith, why on earth would you just submit to beliefs out of fear or some unprovable 'promise' of Heaven? To such persons, that seems as foolish as believing in leprechauns.
 
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Roger Duke said:
A lot of truth to that. Theists have faith that something bigger is out there. Most of them have faith in a specific religion that they have chosen. Religions are faith systems and it takes faith to believe that some kind of higher power does NOT exist. Atheists do many of the same things theists do when they pick which system to have faith in. But they are putting their faith in something, even it is human intelligence so you could label them "people of faith".
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Utter nonsense

It takes faith to believe in God.

It takes no faith to lack a belief in god.
 
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