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No there is not. Speech is speech. Maybe in places like Canada and other politically correct ****ed up countries they made a so called distinction between the two, but not here in the US.
jamesrage said:Regardless of the reasons it is hypocritical for one group of people to piss and moan about another group using a word if they themselves use that word regardless of the context of the word being used. If you actually believed that the word was racist not only would you not use it you wouldn't tolerate others using it regardless of their skin color or the context in which they are using the word. The only thing you are doing is defending blatant hypocrisy.
Bull. Even in the US, there's a difference seen between, for example "I don't like group X" and "Group X should all be shot". Hate speech is hate speech, whether it's being said in Canada, the US or the damn Moon.
When I can't even stop people from using a certain word hatefully, it'd be supremely arrogant for me to wander in and try to condemn it's usage amongst the people who've been hurt by it the most..
I also find it extremely arrogant and hypocritical that you, as someone who's shown a penchant for racist words himself, would see yourself as qualified to tell groups injured by racism exactly what words they should/should not be using
Actually, we have. It's called hate speech and hate crime laws.
We even have one right here over DP.
The US does not have hate speech laws and if there any it violates the 1st amendment.
Hate speech - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In some jurisdictions, notably the United States, hate speech cannot be directly regulated because of a widespread consensus that suppressing viewpoints based on content alone is outright wrong or leads to a slippery slope (that is, who is to decide what content is a priori true or correct) which ultimately destroys the marketplace of ideas. In particular, the United States government and the state governments are broadly forbidden by the First Amendment of the Constitution from restricting speech.
I do not believe the word wetback to be racist, nor have I said Americans or immigrants shouldn't use the word when talking about illegals from south of the border. Where have I ever said that the word wetback was racist or that anyone shouldn't use the word wetback or it's spanish equivalents?
This thread is disgusting
H, I lost my respect for you and am sure you do not care:roll:
This is mostly true. We do have hate crime laws in the US. We do not have hate speech laws per se, but they could fall under the "fighting words" doctrine which does limit free speech.
Fighting words - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also, see Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire for the relevant case law.
Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This doctrine could be used as precedence for hate speech.
Your belief does not alter the word's definition.
Who are you?
This thread is disgusting
H, I lost my respect for you and am sure you do not care:roll:
Actually webster dictionary supports my position that it is not a racial slur while the word nigger is.
wetback - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
wet·back Listen to the pronunciation of wetback
Pronunciation:
\ˈwet-ˌbak\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
from the practice of wading or swimming the Rio Grande where it forms the U.S.-Mexico border
Date:
1929
usually offensive : a Mexican who enters the United States illegally
nigger - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.
Wetback is a derogatory term for a person who has immigrated illegally to the United States. Commonly referring to Mexicans who have crossed the border illegally, the term originated with those who entered Texas by crossing the Rio Grande, presumably by swimming or wading across and getting his or her back wet in the process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetback_(slur)
Do you think referring to someone as "Negroid" in a discussion of races etc is "racist" - or does lack of recognizing current social correctness make it racist?
Bonnie1988 said:MY BF is Native American, but is not offended by "Indian" and says that is commonly how Native Americans refer to each other.
Have you ever been to "the North"? What part of the geographical United States does that term even encompass?
Did you read what you just posted or are you flat out lying? What does it say just before "a Mexican who enters the US illegally"? USUALLY OFFENSIVE. You understand that correct? From your own definition.
At DP it is a racial slur and against the rules.
I wouldn't necessarily say it was racist, (that'd depend on the context) but there's other terms that can be used that don't have as much of a dodgy history. "Black", for example.
Different members of different groups are okay with different labels. I've no problem being called a Scot (the accurate term for a Scottish person), but being called a "Jock" annoys me because it's generally used as an insult by the English. A lot of what makes language acceptable depends on the history of it's usage and the context in which it's used.
Peple find the word "retarded" offensive,it doesn't mean that it is racist.
I agree. If a term is generally used or known to be perceived as a slur then it shouldn't be used.
I agree. If a term is generally used or known to be perceived as a slur then it shouldn't be used.
It's not racist because it's not aimed at a race of people.
I'm fine with it being used, so long as the person doesn't try to pretend it isn't a slur.
Hell, I've been called a spudnigger and I'll admit... I laughed.
Whats that half Irish and half black or black Irish,someone in Idaho? My friends used to joke that their children were niggaspikawoods.Both the parents were biracial,one was white and black and the other was white and hispanic.
It's how slurry-ass antebellum Southerners said "negro".
"Negro", of course, = "black" in spanish (and possibly portuguese; I don't know for sure, although I know the two languages are similar) and was once the accepted term of the day for black people.
That's why it is racist.
The history of southerners and "negros" is too ugly.
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