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Why always Guns Not Peace !!

Guy Incognito said:
"Catholic" means universal, so the Holy Magisterium speaks for all Christians whether they realize it or not. As for how our Jewish brothers and sisters feel about the translation, I can only imagine that they feel good about it, considering that it is accurate.
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You said, "Thou shalt not kill." Would you call that an accurate interpretation of the original?
 
stonewall50 said:
You said, "Thou shalt not kill." Would you call that an accurate interpretation of the original?
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It's the official Vatican translation, directly from the Catechism. Personal opinions of its accuracy are irrelevant. The Holy Magisterium of the Church is infallible.
 
Guy Incognito said:
It's the official Vatican translation, directly from the Catechism. Personal opinions of its accuracy are irrelevant. The Holy Magisterium of the Church is infallible.
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Yea protecting child molesting preists and supporting the Nazi's are proof of the church being "infallible."

We are left with no doubt about the integrity of the Catholic church.
 
Guy Incognito said:
It's the official Vatican translation, directly from the Catechism. Personal opinions of its accuracy are irrelevant. The Holy Magisterium of the Church is infallible.
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You are joking right?
 
Guy Incognito said:
No. The Magisterium of the Church is infallible. Why would you think that's a joke?:confused:
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A lot of people don't take your beliefs seriously and just laugh at you.
 
Guy Incognito said:
No. The Magisterium of the Church is infallible. Why would you think that's a joke?:confused:
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Because only someone completely ignorant if church matters would think that the Magesterium has anything to say on an interpretation for...say...Protestants. I actually have a degree in history. My area of study was late 1800s Germany and early Europe, but I could give you some excellent sources on the reformation. I went through Confirmation and I did know some scholars who worked very hard on that subject. Anything that is reviewed and in depth in Luther would be a good start.
 
Guy Incognito said:
No, your definition of murder is wrong. Negligent homicide is not murder.

Furthermore, the Vatican has the definitive word on this, and their preferred translation is "kill.". So that's really the end of the matter.
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and killing an enemy or an attacker is not a violation of the Commandment. SO you are wrong-yet again
 
Guy Incognito said:
It's the official Vatican translation, directly from the Catechism. Personal opinions of its accuracy are irrelevant. The Holy Magisterium of the Church is infallible.
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Only if you buy into that myth. We protestants, agnostics atheists, Jews, Mormons, Muslims, worshippers of Ba'al do not
 
stonewall50 said:
Because only someone completely ignorant if church matters would think that the Magesterium has anything to say on an interpretation for...say...Protestants. I actually have a degree in history. My area of study was late 1800s Germany and early Europe, but I could give you some excellent sources on the reformation. I went through Confirmation and I did know some scholars who worked very hard on that subject. Anything that is reviewed and in depth in Luther would be a good start.
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The magisterium of the Catholic Church sets the standard for all Christianity, and hence is binding on Protestant heretics whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.

So when the infallible translation, the Catechism and the teachings of Christ generally say it is wrong to kill when there is any option of retreat or nonviolent solution, that is correct. Not to mention that "murder" is, from a strictly academic standpoint as a hebraist, an entirely wrong translation.
 
Guy Incognito said:
The magisterium of the Catholic Church sets the standard for all Christianity, and hence is binding on Protestant heretics whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.
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Just to be clear, your statement is a matter of opinion not fact.
 
Guy Incognito said:
No.

Let me be clear, it is a statement of Holy Church's infallible Truth.
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Here is your statement: The magisterium of the Catholic Church sets the standard for all Christianity, and hence is binding on Protestant heretics whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.

Here is another contradictory statement: The magisterium of the Catholic Church does not set the standard for all Christianity, and hence is not binding on Protestant heretics whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.

Okay, now we have two contradictory statements. How do you propose to verify which of these two statements is a statement of fact.
 
Federalist said:
Here is your statement: The magisterium of the Catholic Church sets the standard for all Christianity, and hence is binding on Protestant heretics whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.

Here is another contradictory statement: The magisterium of the Catholic Church does not set the standard for all Christianity, and hence is not binding on Protestant heretics whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.

Okay, now we have two contradictory statements. How do you propose to verify which of these two statements is a statement of fact.
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I can verify for you that the former is a statement of fact and the latter is false.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Verify has more than one sense.
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I'm sorry, but you have failed to demonstrate that your statement is nothing more than opinion. I stand by my original assessment. You were stating a matter of opinion, not fact.
 
Federalist said:
I'm sorry, but you have failed to demonstrate that your statement is nothing more than opinion. I stand by my original assessment. You were stating a matter of opinion, not fact.
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No, you are wrong, I am stating a fact. I also verified it, in the sense of affirming it as true. That's all there is to it, this is categorically different than a matter of opinion.

If you doubt the fact that the magisterium of the Catholic Church is infallible, I encourage you to talk to a priest at your local parish about it.
 
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