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It started last week when Republican Sen. Jon Kyl said at a town hall in Tempe, Ariz. that during a recent private meeting in the Oval Office the president said: "The problem is, if we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support 'comprehensive immigration reform.'" In other words, Kyl said, the president is holding border security hostage to comprehensive reform.
OMG! A republican said something outrageously damning about the President, why would a Republican ever do such a thing? Certainly in Arizona...
Barack Obama is many things, but stupid enough to say something like that to a republican senator, somehow I think not...but hey, any excuse to sock it to him right.
Now he may have said it, but chances are not likely.
OMG! A republican said something outrageously damning about the President, why would a Republican ever do such a thing? Certainly in Arizona...
Barack Obama is many things, but stupid enough to say something like that to a republican senator, somehow I think not...but hey, any excuse to sock it to him right.
Now he may have said it, but chances are not likely.
Yeah it's almost like Republicans don't like him. I wish we were back in the good ol' days when Democrats were saying mean things about Bush and putting words in his mouth.... actually no both situations suck.
But I agree Obama probably isn't dumb enough to say something like that, especially not to those who oppose him.
OMG! A republican said something outrageously damning about the President, why would a Republican ever do such a thing? Certainly in Arizona...
Barack Obama is many things, but stupid enough to say something like that to a republican senator, somehow I think not...but hey, any excuse to sock it to him right.
Now he may have said it, but chances are not likely.
So Kyl is lying?
Somebody's not telling the truth - and it happened in the Oval Office. Sounds like a good mystery that the press corps would just love to solve. My guess, though, is it will remain forever a case of he said/he said.
It started last week when Republican Sen. Jon Kyl said at a town hall in Tempe, Ariz. that during a recent private meeting in the Oval Office the president said: "The problem is, if we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support 'comprehensive immigration reform.'" In other words, Kyl said, the president is holding border security hostage to comprehensive reform.
Who's lying? Obama. Why? Because he has the track record of openly lying about so many different items.
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How about it Frozengale?
I have no problem believing sen Kyl. Due to obamas' many previous lies, I have a huge problem believing ANYTHING he says..
It started last week when Democratic Sen. Jon Kyl said at a town hall in Tempe, Ariz. that during a recent private meeting in the Oval Office President John McCain said: "The problem is, if we secure the border, then you all won't have any reason to support 'comprehensive immigration reform.'" In other words, Kyl said, the president is holding border security hostage to comprehensive reform.
AT the end of the day, Kyl MADE the accusation... and he simply cannot back it up.... And in case I'm incorrect, ALL politicians Lie...
So let's reverse the situation shall we
Would any of you right wingers believe Sen. Kyl? I'll bet not since every right winger in here and their dog jumped on this story as if it were the bible.
AT the end of the day, Kyl MADE the accusation... and he simply cannot back it up.... And in case I'm incorrect, ALL politicians Lie...
So let's reverse the situation shall we
Would any of you right wingers believe Sen. Kyl? I'll bet not since every right winger in here and their dog jumped on this story as if it were the bible.
Thinking like this makes one easily manipulated, a tool.
It's very likely.
It's also possible that it's simply him twisting his words around. Maybe Obama was talking about Border Security, and Kyl heard something or took it out of context. Remember the best lies are based on truth. The greatest lies are the ones we believe ourselves (especially when we don't know we are lying). Like you said though it is a game of he said/he said. Not to mention people from both parties aren't above lying or twisting facts to get what they want.
Thinking like this makes one easily manipulated, a tool.
So does willingly swallowing anything fed you based on an ideology.
The tool is the one who ignores the record of lying by one man without any reason to disbelieve the other.
As long as you look at it that way, thinking the person matters and not the proof, you open yourself up to getting it wrong.
It's easy to figure out who's lying by asking, who benefits from the lie? Obama benefits as he doesn't want to be seen as negligent at securing the border. Kyl has nothing to gain by lying. Simple.
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