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Who, what, why: Is North Dakota really a US state?

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BBC News - Who, what, why: Is North Dakota really a US state?

While reading the state constitution, which is 40 years older than he is, John Rolczynski noticed it omitted to mention the executive branch when explaining which new officers need to take the oath supporting the US Constitution.

This, he says, makes the state constitution invalid because it is in conflict with the federal constitution, which requires all officers of the three branches of state government - executive, judicial and legislative - be bound by the oath.

Is he right?
 
According to my wife's late great-uncle, it's not only a State, but the best State out of all of them.

I respectfully disagree, as the best State is clearly Minnesota.
 
According to my wife's late great-uncle, it's not only a State, but the best State out of all of them.

I respectfully disagree, as the best State is clearly Minnesota.

Clearly. Seconded. Motion carried.

BOOYAH!
 
Of course, it's way too freaking hot today. Especially with no A/C in the house.

Ack! I'm in AC, thanks be to all that's holy. Can't imagine otherwise.
 
No. He's wrong. And from what I hear, a bit of a prick.
 
It's just another excuse to promote a man for a larger purpose of "being a good citizen" and as conservatives will opine, "take constitutions seriously."
 
Clearly. Seconded. Motion carried.

BOOYAH!

Minnesotans represent! Best state. Ever.

I went to school in North Dakota. That state sucks ass. It's America's answer to Siberia.
 
Minnesotans represent! Best state. Ever.

I went to school in North Dakota. That state sucks ass. It's America's answer to Siberia.

Not to encourage this dispute, but are you seriously going to argue that after Minnesota budget woes while North Dakota is doing fantastic, aside from mother nature's hard lash?
 
Not to encourage this dispute, but are you seriously going to argue that after Minnesota budget woes while North Dakota is doing fantastic, aside from mother nature's hard lash?

With what bizarre method of measurement do you claim that North Dakota is doing "fantastic?"
 
With what bizarre method of measurement do you claim that North Dakota is doing "fantastic?"

Oil has created a $1 billion budget surplus and presented Governor Jack Dalrymple with a question: How to keep up with the boom while keeping the money flowing. Only North Dakota and Montana have reported surpluses from 2009 to 2011, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. As states face what may be more than $112 billion in deficits in the coming fiscal year, Dalrymple’s dilemma is one many governors might envy.

Oil Riches Let North Dakota
 
Oh yes, and this.

The superstar of North Dakota is its economy. The state's unemployment rate hasn't touched 5% since 1987. The state's per capita income rose over the decade from 38th in the nation to 17th, the biggest advance of any state.
"We've had an absolutely stellar few years," says University of North Dakota economist David Flynn. "In all honesty, when you look ahead, we should continue to do well for quite a while."

North Dakota is enjoying an oil boom in the western part of the state, drawing workers from across the country. Williston, in oil country, grew 17.6% to 14,716. The oil windfall has created a $1 billion state budget surplus.
Agriculture — 90% of the state's area is used for farms and ranches — is productive and profitable, making the state a top exporter of wheat and other crops. Federal agriculture subsidies add nearly $1 billion a year.
North Dakota is one of the few states to add manufacturing jobs over the decade. Bobcat, maker of farm and construction equipment, is headquartered in the state.
"We don't have big factories like Gary, Ind., or steel mills that are hard to retool," Flynn says. "We have smaller plants that are some of the most efficient in the world." When factories closed elsewhere, production was often moved to North Dakota.
 
Some of us think surplus or deficit is not the only measurement of how well a state is doing.

What about unemployment and income per capita? All the fundamentals show ND is growing economically, as compared to the rest of the nation.
 
What about unemployment and income per capita? All the fundamentals show ND is growing economically, as compared to the rest of the nation.

Two words:

Wind chill.
 
Two words:

Wind chill.

It's not that bad.

-40 to -50 is bad up in the northern part of the state, but you get used to it. I hear about the coldness elsewhere on tv, and I chuckle. "Oooooo... 35 degrees....buuurrrrrr" :lol: *shrugs*
 
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Minnesota = cold ass winters and mesquito's mesquito's mesquito's. No thanks.

As for the OP...don't care.
 
I like ND. It's very, very quiet, laid-back, easy-going, with lots of wide-open spaces. Love it.
 
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