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Who still thinks Trump won?

Who still thinks Trump will be inaugurated for second term this coming January?

  • I do !!! I do!!!! I do!!!

    Votes: 7 5.1%

  • Not me. Not even a remote possibility.

    Votes: 107 78.7%

  • Still not sure, too much uncertainty.

    Votes: 9 6.6%

  • I doubt it’ll happen, but I’m praying every few hours.

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Won’t happen in 2021, but 2024 is just a few short years away.

    Votes: 8 5.9%

  • Other - please explain

    Votes: 7 5.1%
  • Total voters
    136
Disputing Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud
 
Dragonfly said:
No. It’s not.
Not even close.

It’s amazing the shit you chose to believe , rather than the facts that are tight there
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You misunderstand. I am not believing anything right now, I am seeing and reading and trying to determine what happened. Right or left.

Just so you and the others on this forum can see - Biden seems like he won, it is not secured and certified across the board yet, but I can admit at this point it is likely.

I am just as flabbergasted at Biden's victory as I would be to see that I won the lottery. Biden pulled of an f'ing miracle of miracles if his presidency turns out to be certified and Trump's legal team can't prove enough voter fraud. And if that happens, Biden will be my president, unfortunately.

I don't have all the data. I can't get it more than likely, nor do I have the time. That is the exact reason why I am surfing around on this forum. I can appreciate a rational explanation - what I see so far just doesn't seem to fit (expletives aside).

Convince me, if you can.
 
Nuber said:
I am just as flabbergasted at Biden's victory as I would be to see that I won the lottery. Biden pulled of an f'ing miracle of miracles if his presidency turns out to be certified and Trump's legal team can't prove enough voter fraud.
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You don't know much about odds.
You obviously had your head under a rock for all of 2020.

There's no miracle here. None at all.

Also - there's no voter fraud.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-doj-fbi-voter-fraud-2020-election <--- I mean - come on
 
joko104 said:
Another Democrat who thinks it's a clever trick to post a poll that is different from the thread title. Why do they think this is a clever trick?

Republicans sweep the elections, winning the House, Senate and presidency. However, democracy was eliminated. The last mostly democratic election in the USA was in 2018. However, the powers that be are in total control in pursuit of elimination of the USA as an independent democratic republic to replace it as just one of 195 regional offices of the international super rich slavers and likely have been successful, so America's #1 traitor Beijing Biden will likely be sworn in as the first president not democratically elected in USA history. He won't be the last - and instead is just the first.
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The Justice Dept says no evidence of widespread election fraud. Every court in every disputed state says no widespread evidence of election fraud. Serious questions coming up. Which part of these factual declarations do Trump fans have an issue with? And why?
 
Nuber said:
Just know that the bovine feces comment is intended to be an attention grabber. By design. Don't get caught up in the phraseology.

I for one, am not ignoring what you are suggesting I am ignoring. I understand that presentation, I simply don't buy that rationale yet, because of all the other factors that you are ignoring (or at least not responding to).

"Everybody hates Trump!" does not explain why the vote counting was stopped late in the evening, ballots were shipped in, then counted after election day. Biden gets more votes via mail in ballot than Trump does can't explain a massive improvement in Biden to Trump vote ratio required to overcome the deficit. In multiple states. In states that Biden had to win in order to secure the Presidency. And all of those mail in ballots had to be at a somewhat higher percentage for Biden than anywhere else in the country in order for Biden to overcome the deficit he had in those states.

Fantastical come from behind victory if it holds. The stuff of all time political legends - see the article referenced in post 88.
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You have to have actual evidence that ballots were actually shipped in during the night. There are always stories like this told by the losing side after a presidential election. I'm 70 years old and I've heard this bovine feces all my life. Until actual evidence is presented in court I will continue to ignore the loser whining. The preponderance of mail in votes for Biden is adequately explained in my opinion and, again, you are offering opinion with no supporting proof. You have an opinion. Nothing else.
 
Nuber said:
You misunderstand. I am not believing anything right now, I am seeing and reading and trying to determine what happened. Right or left.

Just so you and the others on this forum can see - Biden seems like he won, it is not secured and certified across the board yet, but I can admit at this point it is likely.

I am just as flabbergasted at Biden's victory as I would be to see that I won the lottery. Biden pulled of an f'ing miracle of miracles if his presidency turns out to be certified and Trump's legal team can't prove enough voter fraud. And if that happens, Biden will be my president, unfortunately.

I don't have all the data. I can't get it more than likely, nor do I have the time. That is the exact reason why I am surfing around on this forum. I can appreciate a rational explanation - what I see so far just doesn't seem to fit (expletives aside).

Convince me, if you can.
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Convince you of what? That the guy who twice could only get 47% of the vote finally lost? Why would you need convincing on that?
 
Dragonfly said:
You don't know much about odds.
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True - which is why I don't gamble.

You obviously had your head under a rock for all of 2020.
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No, Biden just pulled off a miracle. An all time rare election victory if it holds.

There's no miracle here. None at all.
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See post 88 and the referenced article for the details. (something you still ignore)

Also - there's no voter fraud.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-doj-fbi-voter-fraud-2020-election <--- I mean - come on
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Overstatement, but I will concede that no one has been able to prove in a court of law election fraud of sufficient levels to overturn Biden's count totals. Trump's case is crumbling mightily - I am getting closer and closer by the moment to accepting defeat. I still have questions about what took place in the election. That is why I am posting here.

Once again, see post 88 and explain how more votes in certain areas than registered voters is not voter fraud. Are you going to mince words and claim tabulation errors of some kind?

From that referenced article found in post 88 -

“Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.” Barnes added that in those “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”

I have questions - that remain unanswered. Each of those cities, in those states, Biden magically came from behind in the vote AFTER election day.
 
Nuber said:
True - which is why I don't gamble.



No, Biden just pulled off a miracle. An all time rare election victory if it holds.



See post 88 and the referenced article for the details. (something you still ignore)



Overstatement, but I will concede that no one has been able to prove in a court of law election fraud of sufficient levels to overturn Biden's count totals. Trump's case is crumbling mightily - I am getting closer and closer by the moment to accepting defeat. I still have questions about what took place in the election. That is why I am posting here.

Once again, see post 88 and explain how more votes in certain areas than registered voters is not voter fraud. Are you going to mince words and claim tabulation errors of some kind?

From that referenced article found in post 88 -

“Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.” Barnes added that in those “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”

I have questions - that remain unanswered. Each of those cities, in those states, Biden magically came from behind in the vote AFTER election day.
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This post is ridiculous.
 
Brandenburg said:
A better question is does Biden know that he won?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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an even better question is does Trump know he lost?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. :ROFLMAO:
 
Nuber said:
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Convinced ain't convincing.

There's a reason why these statistical analysis arguments aren't going anywhere in court. I haven't even heard of them trying that line with judges. They don't even claim any actual fraud, when there's a judge listening.

Get the courts to start seeing things your way, and THEN your pet theory will have our complete attention.
 
Brandenburg said:
Are you looking forward to earning less money under Biden?

Or are you still on welfare?
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Less how? I doubt my taxes will change much.

Your question is funny. Never have been on welfare. Retired at 53, debt free.

So how much are you in debt?
 
bearpoker said:
Don't worry. Giuli's going on to lose in the Supreme Court next! He gets paid, win or lose. I'm starting to think he's in it for the legal fees.
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What?!?

A lawyer doing something just for the money?!?

I'm SHOCKED! SHOCKED I say!
 
mike2810 said:
Less how? I doubt my taxes will change much.

Your question is funny. Never have been on welfare. Retired at 53, debt free.

So how much are you in debt?
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I'm guessing his mommy is still paying the bills.
 
We are going to stop the steal. Looking forward to January 20th.
 
mike2810 said:
Less how? I doubt my taxes will change much.

Your question is funny. Never have been on welfare. Retired at 53, debt free.

So how much are you in debt?
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Zero cents debt, still working at 55, own about 800 stocks in 4 different brokerages. Must be fun not earning any money so that you pay no taxes. Now who wants to be you again?
 
Eriech said:
We are going to stop the steal. Looking forward to January 20th.
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Not one of Trump's little three word rally chants ("Lock her up!" "Build the wall!" 'Send her back!" "Four more years!") has become a reality. "Stop the steal!" might finally be the one. There is zero evidence that this election has been stolen from anyone, but good luck.
 
Brandenburg said:
Zero cents debt, still working at 55, own about 800 stocks in 4 different brokerages. Must be fun not earning any money so that you pay no taxes. Now who wants to be you again?
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You do realize that Congress is going to have to pass the legislation for Biden's tax plan to be implemented. Just like Trump's.

evidently you know nothing about me. If you had my money you could throw yours away. :LOL:

We all are just going to have to live with Biden as President. Trump lost.
 
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