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Who is Top Contributor to Civilization?

Which race is Top Contributor to Civilization?

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"When the last century ended, humans could not even fly. In the 20th century, the human race went to the moon and began to explore the stars."
The San Francisco Chronicle

Which "Subspecies" of the Human Race is the top contributor to "Civilization" in areas such as discoveries, exploration, the arts, inventions, technology, transportation, architecture, farming, healthcare and overall quality of life?

I'm sure we all know of great accomplishments by all six but only one can be the absolute most accomplished?

For those of you not afraid of "Race" classification...

Race Definition
(1) Any one of the groups that humans are often divided into based on physical traits regarded as common among people of shared ancestry.
(2) A group of people sharing a common cultural, geographical, linguistic, or religious origin or background.
(3) The descendants of a common ancestor : a group sharing a common lineage.
(4) A group within a species that is distinguishable (as morphologically, genetically, or behaviorally) from others of the same species.
 
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"Our ability to reach unity in diversity will be the beauty and the test of our civilization." -- Mahatma Gandhi, 1925
 
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Culturally? Black people with jazz, rock and roll, and rap.

Whole new genres of music.

Technology, white and Asian peoples.
 
"When the last century ended, humans could not even fly. In the 20th century, the human race went to the moon and began to explore the stars."
The San Francisco Chronicle

Which "Subspecies" of the Human Race is the top contributor to "Civilization" in areas such as discoveries, exploration, the arts, inventions, technology, transportation, architecture, farming, healthcare and overall quality of life?

I'm sure we all know of great accomplishments by all six but only one can be the absolute most accomplished?

For those of you not afraid of "Race" classification...

Race Definition
(1) Any one of the groups that humans are often divided into based on physical traits regarded as common among people of shared ancestry.
(2) A group of people sharing a common cultural, geographical, linguistic, or religious origin or background.
(3) The descendants of a common ancestor : a group sharing a common lineage.
(4) A group within a species that is distinguishable (as morphologically, genetically, or behaviorally) from others of the same species.
How does one take you seriously?
 
"When the last century ended, humans could not even fly. In the 20th century, the human race went to the moon and began to explore the stars."
The San Francisco Chronicle

Which "Subspecies" of the Human Race is the top contributor to "Civilization" in areas such as discoveries, exploration, the arts, inventions, technology, transportation, architecture, farming, healthcare and overall quality of life?

I'm sure we all know of great accomplishments by all six but only one can be the absolute most accomplished?

For those of you not afraid of "Race" classification...

Race Definition
(1) Any one of the groups that humans are often divided into based on physical traits regarded as common among people of shared ancestry.
(2) A group of people sharing a common cultural, geographical, linguistic, or religious origin or background.
(3) The descendants of a common ancestor : a group sharing a common lineage.
(4) A group within a species that is distinguishable (as morphologically, genetically, or behaviorally) from others of the same species.
One of those groups towers over all the others. Whereas one struggles to think of any significant contributions to civilization from two or three of them.
 
"When the last century ended, humans could not even fly. In the 20th century, the human race went to the moon and began to explore the stars."
The San Francisco Chronicle

Which "Subspecies" of the Human Race is the top contributor to "Civilization" in areas such as discoveries, exploration, the arts, inventions, technology, transportation, architecture, farming, healthcare and overall quality of life?

I'm sure we all know of great accomplishments by all six but only one can be the absolute most accomplished?

For those of you not afraid of "Race" classification...

Race Definition
(1) Any one of the groups that humans are often divided into based on physical traits regarded as common among people of shared ancestry.
(2) A group of people sharing a common cultural, geographical, linguistic, or religious origin or background.
(3) The descendants of a common ancestor : a group sharing a common lineage.
(4) A group within a species that is distinguishable (as morphologically, genetically, or behaviorally) from others of the same species.
Haha, 'afraid of "Race"' - I lol'ed. Beyond that, It took 200,000 years of humans doing human things for us to get to where we are. It's like a ~7000 person relay race, where you want to give all the credit to the last three runners, just 'cause they got us across your arbitrary finish line. No agenda, I'm sure.
 
"When the last century ended, humans could not even fly. In the 20th century, the human race went to the moon and began to explore the stars."
The San Francisco Chronicle

Which "Subspecies" of the Human Race is the top contributor to "Civilization" in areas such as discoveries, exploration, the arts, inventions, technology, transportation, architecture, farming, healthcare and overall quality of life?

I'm sure we all know of great accomplishments by all six but only one can be the absolute most accomplished?

For those of you not afraid of "Race" classification...

Race Definition
(1) Any one of the groups that humans are often divided into based on physical traits regarded as common among people of shared ancestry.
(2) A group of people sharing a common cultural, geographical, linguistic, or religious origin or background.
(3) The descendants of a common ancestor : a group sharing a common lineage.
(4) A group within a species that is distinguishable (as morphologically, genetically, or behaviorally) from others of the same species.
what a weird question... the guy that invented the wheel? The person that invented fire (usage of), the lady that figured out boiling water, whoever figured out storing grain and domesticating animals.

Your overall question is stupid.
 
Lessee....
Indigenous American Indians developed the corn, beans, squash and other native foods that now feed 60% of the world.

Indigenous Asian Orientals gave us gunpowder and the printing press.

Indigenous European Caucasians gave us democracy and automobiles

Indigenous Middle Easterners gave us Algebra and Judeo-Christian religions

Indigenous Sub Saharan Africans gave us coffee and iron smelting

Indigenous South Pacific Islanders Beautiful playgrounds and cocktails served in pineapples

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One of those groups towers over all the others. Whereas one struggles to think of any significant contributions to civilization from two or three of them.

Yeah, indigenous Middle Easterners are typically credited with creating civilization through their invention of agriculture, law, the wheel, cities, etc. But none of that even comes close to the impact that the invention of language by indigenous Sub-Saharan Africans had on civilization.

Obviously, those two would be the only real contenders here.
 
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Culturally? Black people with jazz, rock and roll, and rap.

Whole new genres of music.

Technology, white and Asian peoples.
She said “contribution” those things are low arts with degrade society
 
Lessee....
Indigenous American Indians developed the corn, beans, squash and other native foods that now feed 60% of the world.
no they didn’t, they happened to migrate to areas where those crops existed, but their agriculture was primitive. If you can show the Indians selectively bred corn into a major crop then I’d accept that, but all of their crops from corn to tobacco were very weak and didn’t grow productively until Europeans applied their agricultural knowledge to them.
Indigenous Asian Orientals gave us gunpowder and the printing press.
the Chinese invented gun powder in a primitive form, but never used it for anything other then fireworks. And some primitive weapons that were never perfected for use. Also there is very little to no evidence Europeans got gunpowder from the Chinese, and they may well have developed it independently.
Indigenous European Caucasians gave us democracy and automobiles
I mean as well as the many thousands of scientific discoveries that made an automobile possible.
Indigenous Middle Easterners gave us Algebra and Judeo-Christian religions
not Algebra, Algebra was first developed in Ancient Greece. And the mathematical concepts within algebra were well known in Europe before the Muslims learned it, from Greek mathematicians. This is a common lie made by modern anti-white, anti Christian “intellectuals” to make “brown Muslims” seem like they were smarter. You’ll see this lie played out where there will be giant lists of “Muslim inventions” that were actually not invented by Muslims or claims that we use “Arabic numerals” which were quietly renamed “Hindu-Arabic numerals” several years ago because Indians (dots not feathers) were pretty pissed that universities were teaching that their numeral system was invented by Arabs.

Indigenous Sub Saharan Africans gave us coffee and iron smelting
“they” didn’t “give” coffee. The coffee lives in that area already and would if no humans were there.

The iron smelting is weird too, because basic research indicates the first known ironworks were in a Hittite kingdom in the modern day Turkey and not Sub Saharan Africa.

Indigenous South Pacific Islanders Beautiful playgrounds and cocktails served in pineapples

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The Polynesians were master navigators however
 
Indigenous American Indians developed the corn, beans, squash and other native foods that now feed 60% of the world.

Is that a joke?

Rice, corn and wheat feed most of the world and corn has been grown in Africa and China for many thousands of years.

 
Horses, cattle, sheep, pigs.

Are indigenous to...

The combination of these four animals gave a huge advantage in agriculture, transportation, engineering, nutrition, and so on...

Therefore...
 
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The progression from Neolithic nomads to sedentary, urbanised civilisation took place in the Greater Middle East and Northwestern India first. Things like our alphabet, our number system, our basic maths and algebra, the roots of our science, our music, our poetry, our literature and our architecture all developed in the Greater Middle East. Three of the world's globally spanning religions developed in the Greater Middle East and two left indelible impacts on human civilisation far outside the region of these religions' births. So the Greater Middle East has been the cradle and engine of civilisation and the strongest driver of civilisation until the Classical periods of Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome, both of which borrowed heavily from Middle Eastern traditions. The European Rennaisance was dependent on the looting of the Greater Middle East for Arabic and Persian works which reintroduced lost Greek literature back into the European milieu as well as ideas from the Greater Middle East. Therefore my position is the Greater Middle East has been the major contributor to human civilisation to date.

Only in the last four hundred years has Northwestern Europe been a significant contributor to global civilisation. During those most of those four centuries it has been a contributor but not a central influencer of global civilisation. Only in the last 150 years has that changed.

China has been a nexus of civilisation for 5000 years but the Chinese tendency to look inwards to the Middle Kingdom means that much of China's rich cultural and civilising contributions to human civilisation remained in the Chinese sphere of culture and were not exported further afield until the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries.

Indigenous African cultures have been influential at times but have not been dominant as a civilising agents globally since the collapse of the Bronze Age and a few blips in the Iron Age under Greek and Roman influence.

European Christian religious zealotry all but wiped out the rich cultural contributions of South America and Mezozoic-America of old, so only in the last century or so have these cultures began to make contributions to global civilisation as archeology and scholarship have began to uncover the traditions which the Europeans missed and failed to destroy.

North American and European consumer culture has dominated the globe for about a century now and has spurred economic growth which has supported the growth of civilisation but consumerism and materialism have also made the progression of civilisation more difficult by commodifying all work and discounting the value of certain cultural, artistic and philosophical developments. Civilisation is now being enclosed behind pay-walls and is becoming less readily available to the majority of the planet's human population.

There is no doubt that European and Notrth American scientific and technological advances have fostered great advances in communications but the effect of this communication infrastructure on global civilisation is still unclear as the wider disemination of ideas has been offset by both the commodification of culture behind pay-walls and the role of surveillance technologies in suppressing the free flow of ideas which contribute to the expansion of cultures and civilisation. Technology has also contributed to the growth of an Anglo-American-European global monoculture which has been crowding out local cultures, thus undermining the expansion of cultural diversity as a contributor to global civilisation.

So in summary global civilisation has been expanding wider but also has been narrowing and focusing into a tunnel-civilisation and global monoculture based on Western linguist, legal, economic, scientific and cultural norms for the last century and a half. This expanding Anglo-American-European mono-culture is threatening too suffocate and supplant indigenous/local cultures globally and may homogenise human civilisation by stripping away many of its richest traditions and cultural touchstones. Prior to that, the Greater Middle East was the engine of a more diversified locus of civilisations which spread globally.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
Is that a joke?

Rice, corn and wheat feed most of the world and corn has been grown in Africa and China for many thousands of years.

Wow, thousands of years?! Did the seeds wash ashore after the biblical flood? Unrelated question, did you actually read your own source?
 
Indigenous African cultures have been influential at times but have not been dominant as a civilising agents globally since the collapse of the Bronze Age and a few blips in the Iron Age under Greek and Roman influence.

Yeah, but they did invent language. You can't really top the invention of language.
 
Wow, thousands of years?! Did the seeds wash ashore after the biblical flood? Unrelated question, did you actually read your own source?
Yes.

Would you like me to explain it to you?
 
Yes.

Would you like me to explain it to you?
Please! Particularily the part about corn being in Africa for many thousands of years.
 
The progression from Neolithic nomads to sedentary, urbanised civilisation took place in the Greater Middle East and Northwestern India first. Things like our alphabet, our number system, our basic maths and algebra, the roots of our science, our music, our poetry, our literature and our architecture all developed in the Greater Middle East. Three of the world's globally spanning religions developed in the Greater Middle East and two left indelible impacts on human civilisation far outside the region of these religions' births. So the Greater Middle East has been the cradle and engine of civilisation and the strongest driver of civilisation until the Classical periods of Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome, both of which borrowed heavily from Middle Eastern traditions. The European Rennaisance was dependent on the looting of the Greater Middle East for Arabic and Persian works which reintroduced lost Greek literature back into the European milieu as well as ideas from the Greater Middle East. Therefore my position is the Greater Middle East has been the major contributor to human civilisation to date.

Only in the last four hundred years has Northwestern Europe been a significant contributor to global civilisation. During those most of those four centuries it has been a contributor but not a central influencer of global civilisation. Only in the last 150 years has that changed.

China has been a nexus of civilisation for 5000 years but the Chinese tendency to look inwards to the Middle Kingdom means that much of China's rich cultural and civilising contributions to human civilisation remained in the Chinese sphere of culture and were not exported further afield until the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries.

Indigenous African cultures have been influential at times but have not been dominant as a civilising agents globally since the collapse of the Bronze Age and a few blips in the Iron Age under Greek and Roman influence.

European Christian religious zealotry all but wiped out the rich cultural contributions of South America and Mezozoic-America of old, so only in the last century or so have these cultures began to make contributions to global civilisation as archeology and scholarship have began to uncover the traditions which the Europeans missed and failed to destroy.

North American and European consumer culture has dominated the globe for about a century now and has spurred economic growth which has supported the growth of civilisation but consumerism and materialism have also made the progression of civilisation more difficult by commodifying all work and discounting the value of certain cultural, artistic and philosophical developments. Civilisation is now being enclosed behind pay-walls and is becoming less readily available to the majority of the planet's human population.

There is no doubt that European and Notrth American scientific and technological advances have fostered great advances in communications but the effect of this communication infrastructure on global civilisation is still unclear as the wider disemination of ideas has been offset by both the commodification of culture behind pay-walls and the role of surveillance technologies in suppressing the free flow of ideas which contribute to the expansion of cultures and civilisation. Technology has also contributed to the growth of an Anglo-American-European global monoculture which has been crowding out local cultures, thus undermining the expansion of cultural diversity as a contributor to global civilisation.

So in summary global civilisation has been expanding wider but also has been narrowing and focusing into a tunnel-civilisation and global monoculture based on Western linguist, legal, economic, scientific and cultural norms for the last century and a half. This expanding Anglo-American-European mono-culture is threatening too suffocate and supplant indigenous/local cultures globally and may homogenise human civilisation by stripping away many of its richest traditions and cultural touchstones. Prior to that, the Greater Middle East was the engine of a more diversified locus of civilisations which spread globally.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
The Aztecs and other meso Americans contributed nothing to overall human advancement, they were brutal cannabalistic savages. They hadn’t even reached the cultural and technological level of ancient Babylon when the Spanish discovered them. So I’m not sure what accomplishments you refer to.

There’s a reason the Indians in Mexico largely fell in line, learned Spanish, converted to Catholicism (well they converted because Mary herself appeared to Juan Diego) and willingly assisted the Spanish in building Mexico City.
Life for normal Indians who were not Aztec elites improved under Spanish rule
 
Lessee....
Indigenous American Indians developed the corn, beans, squash and other native foods that now feed 60% of the world.

Indigenous Asian Orientals gave us gunpowder and the printing press.

Indigenous European Caucasians gave us democracy and automobiles

Indigenous Middle Easterners gave us Algebra and Judeo-Christian religions

Indigenous Sub Saharan Africans gave us coffee and iron smelting

Indigenous South Pacific Islanders Beautiful playgrounds and cocktails served in pineapples

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Indigenous Sub Saharan Africans win. Without coffee, what is life anyway?
 
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