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Who Is Really Fear-mongering?

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ldsrptcvt

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I think it's time for a reality check. On this forum, I have often been accused of fear mongering when I support strong precautions against transmission of the covid 19 virus, and I realize that it has become the norm for conservatives to deny the danger of the virus as a Democratic hoax against Trump.

But I now believe that conservatives are also fear mongers who try to scare the American public into thinking liberals want to turn the country into a full-blown socialist state, if not communist for Christ's sake. They are trying to bring back the horrors of McCarthyism to bolster Trump.

Something to think about. Don't be too quick to swallow extremist ranting.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
I think it's time for a reality check. On this forum, I have often been accused of fear mongering when I support strong precautions against transmission of the covid 19 virus, and I realize that it has become the norm for conservatives to deny the danger of the virus as a Democratic hoax against Trump.

But I now believe that conservatives are also fear mongers who try to scare the American public into thinking liberals want to turn the country into a full-blown socialist state, if not communist for Christ's sake. They are trying to bring back the horrors of McCarthyism to bolster Trump.

Something to think about. Don't be too quick to swallow extremist ranting.
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Did you advocate for strong precautions when it came to the rioters?
 
Knowing the level of fear-mongering going on for the last dozen or more years by the radical right on any number of topics (guns, voting, etc.), it would be surprising to me for them to be making this accusation. EXCEPT , however, because one of the favorite methods of Trump and his cohort is to "mirror-claim", it makes sense.

When he/they know they are vulnerable to a particular criticism, they get out in front of it by making (generally false) claims about the opposition to make it seem like the claim is either responsive, or that "both sides are doing it". This is most often blatantly false, but it is effective, which is why they repeat it often. This, I think, is an example of that. We've seen the tactic on voter fraud, for example (since most voter fraud cases involve Republicans, not Democrats). I don't want to risk taking the thread off-topic by listing the various subjects where this has been documented, but I wanted to note the strategy.
 
I think I can rest my case.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
I think it's time for a reality check. On this forum, I have often been accused of fear mongering when I support strong precautions against transmission of the covid 19 virus, and I realize that it has become the norm for conservatives to deny the danger of the virus as a Democratic hoax against Trump.

But I now believe that conservatives are also fear mongers who try to scare the American public into thinking liberals want to turn the country into a full-blown socialist state, if not communist for Christ's sake. They are trying to bring back the horrors of McCarthyism to bolster Trump.

Something to think about. Don't be too quick to swallow extremist ranting.
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You think the Republicans are bringing back McCarthyism? Did you pay any attention at all to the Mueller "investigation" and the impeachment? The Democrats were chasing ghosts all over the place and they even had a line on it all being the fault of the Russians. They couldn't have gone more Joe McCarthy if they tried!
 
When people started fear mongering about fear mongering I lost track of who was responsible for what and decided to not be scared about anything.

What ya got?
 
apdst said:
Did you advocate for strong precautions when it came to the rioters?
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I didn't advocate one way or another on that topic; if I said I did advocate for strong precautions against rioters, would you have called me a fear monger?
 
ldsrptcvt said:
I think it's time for a reality check. On this forum, I have often been accused of fear mongering when I support strong precautions against transmission of the covid 19 virus, and I realize that it has become the norm for conservatives to deny the danger of the virus as a Democratic hoax against Trump.

But I now believe that conservatives are also fear mongers who try to scare the American public into thinking liberals want to turn the country into a full-blown socialist state, if not communist for Christ's sake. They are trying to bring back the horrors of McCarthyism to bolster Trump.

Something to think about. Don't be too quick to swallow extremist ranting.
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Open your eyes or you won't see what's coming at you like a freight train.
 
Lutherf said:
You think the Republicans are bringing back McCarthyism? Did you pay any attention at all to the Mueller "investigation" and the impeachment? The Democrats were chasing ghosts all over the place and they even had a line on it all being the fault of the Russians. They couldn't have gone more Joe McCarthy if they tried!
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The Left's purity tests and demands make McCarthy look like an amateur.
 
Acadia said:
The Left's purity tests and demands make McCarthy look like an amateur.
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McCarthy was paranoid about communists. Since the left is not, I don't get what you're saying. It's the right who scream the C word
 
ldsrptcvt said:
McCarthy was paranoid about communists. Since the left is not, I don't get what you're saying. It's the right who scream the C word
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McCarthy wanted to purge communists and he saw them around every corner. The Left wants to purge America's history and anyone who doesn't hew to their ideology.
Conservatives are the communists to the Left.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
what is your case?
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The right wing advocates try to create the impression that "both sides" are fear mongering. apdst's first post was an effort to drag the discussion in that direction to create a false impression. It was a typical trolling effort, not related to the topic. lutherf was just more explicit about it. A number of posts since then have demonstrated the reality of my assertions. "Communists"? That is so relevant to the topic, isn't it.
 
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Lutherf said:
You think the Republicans are bringing back McCarthyism? Did you pay any attention at all to the Mueller "investigation" and the impeachment? The Democrats were chasing ghosts all over the place and they even had a line on it all being the fault of the Russians. They couldn't have gone more Joe McCarthy if they tried!
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are you saying we're ALL screaming ''communist" at each other? What a comedy this country has turned into.....bunch of idiots. I guess we deserve to have the nation dissolve into anarchy.
 
ecofarm said:
When people started fear mongering about fear mongering I lost track of who was responsible for what and decided to not be scared about anything.

What ya got?
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one way to go
 
Acadia said:
McCarthy wanted to purge communists and he saw them around every corner. The Left wants to purge America's history and anyone who doesn't hew to their ideology.
Conservatives are the communists to the Left.
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No, I'm not hearing that. The extreme accusations from the left are fascism or anarchy
 
Another example of what I'm talking about: Trump takes heat for suggesting man shoved by Buffalo police may be ‘ANTIFA provocateur’ (FOX). Even though it is a KNOWING, BLATANT LIE, Trump is using it to create a scary scenario.
The OANN report Trump apparently was citing was based on a post from the site Conservative Treehouse saying that Gugino was an activist, which is true. But the report does not actually provide evidence that Gugino is associated with Antifa. Further, it claims, without evidence, that Gugino was attempting to use a "police tracker" on his phone to scan police communications and apparently black them out.
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Yeah, even FOX NEWS is coughing "bull****" into its hand.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
I think it's time for a reality check. On this forum, I have often been accused of fear mongering when I support strong precautions against transmission of the covid 19 virus, and I realize that it has become the norm for conservatives to deny the danger of the virus as a Democratic hoax against Trump.

But I now believe that conservatives are also fear mongers who try to scare the American public into thinking liberals want to turn the country into a full-blown socialist state, if not communist for Christ's sake. They are trying to bring back the horrors of McCarthyism to bolster Trump.

Something to think about. Don't be too quick to swallow extremist ranting.
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Yet that is exactly what you just did... rant extremist.
 
ecofarm said:
When people started fear mongering about fear mongering I lost track of who was responsible for what and decided to not be scared about anything.

What ya got?
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Fear is the mind killer.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
are you saying we're ALL screaming ''communist" at each other? What a comedy this country has turned into.....bunch of idiots. I guess we deserve to have the nation dissolve into anarchy.
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I don't think anyone is calling Trump a Communist. They are calling him a traitor which, frankly, is worse than a communist. The Democrats, meanwhile, are embracing Marxism like it's the last life preserver left on the Titanic.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
But I now believe that conservatives are also fear mongers who try to scare the American public into thinking liberals want to turn the country into a full-blown socialist state
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This is because Bernie Sanders did want to turn the country into a full-blown socialist state

And AOC making statements like "Defund The Police" rather than "Reform The Police," and calling for an overhaul of the entire Electoral College System, on which America was founded, doesn't help
 
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apdst said:
Did you advocate for strong precautions when it came to the rioters?
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Your post is exactly what the thread addresses. You call them rioters, trump calls them thugs, other republicans call them criminals and looters, very few trump supporters call them demonstrators. By now we've all seen the fires and broken windows and the looting and not a soul I personally know agrees with the violence and vandalism, zero. However if I listen to folks on the right, rioters, thugs, criminals, antifa every single one of them out to destroy trump. We also know by now there hasn't been any of the negative stuff for days and days and yet the right keeps using terms like rioters. You sell fear to each other, that's why trump ended up in the bunker, he bought into the fear he spreads.
 
Let's see, the Democrats want to rewrite history books to show their slant. The Democrats want to tear down statues that have been around for over a century because they have no tolerance for people who are different than them. The Democrats sounded more world ending scare warnings than I can count. All of which have been false. Among them was acid rain, global cooling, global warming, climate change, Russian Collusion, Trump starting WW III, Coronavirus going to kill millions, the Alaskan Pipeline would destroy the Alaskan wilderness, the Keystone Pipeline would destroy the groundwater, on and on. There are too many to count. The Democrat nominee announced Republicans want to put blacks back in chains. The Democrat playbook is full of scare tactics and all their lemmings suck it up.
 
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