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Who here has the balls, the honesty, the strength of character to be skeptical and critical of their own party's faults, flaws and mistakes?
Who here has the balls, the honesty, the strength of character to be skeptical and critical of their own party's faults, flaws and mistakes?
This is one of the greatest metrics of integrity, morality and trustworthiness. Absent this, we are lowered to grade school, childish finger pointing, blind self denial, and clique mentality.
I was raised in a traditionally conservative home and taught that your own house needs to be in order before criticizing your neighbors house. The illusion of an ordered house, or denial of disorder is not honest or of strong character and invites tyranny of your neighbor, or their tyranny onto you.
So who here has the balls to call out the corruption and incompetence within their own party?
I wonder how many we can put on a list...
One advantage to not belonging to a party. Isn't it...
There's more than one party?? Who knew?
At this point in time and judging by the corruption you describe, we as a people, need to raise our voices in unison.
Maybe not going 'Egypt' on their asses but, something close.
Who here has the balls, the honesty, the strength of character to be skeptical and critical of their own party's faults, flaws and mistakes?
This is one of the greatest metrics of integrity, morality and trustworthiness. Absent this, we are lowered to grade school, childish finger pointing, blind self denial, and clique mentality.
I was raised in a traditionally conservative home and taught that your own house needs to be in order before criticizing your neighbors house. The illusion of an ordered house, or denial of disorder is not honest or of strong character and invites tyranny of your neighbor, or their tyranny onto you.
So who here has the balls to call out the corruption and incompetence within their own party?
I wonder how many we can put on a list...
Well, anyone who says they agree with everything their preferred party does is lying, in my opinion. And we see a lot of that here. Ha! The Republican Party, as my example, has done much that I find embarrassing and not in the best interests of our country. I just think the Democrats do it more often.
I'm certain the Dems hold the opposite view, and likely for the same reasons.
Okay, frequency aside... In which arena do you think you could have the most constructive impact on? I just don't see anyone taking any steps to ensure their party doesn't embarrass them. Nothing proactive. I see after the fact reactions and often those reactions are pathetic justifications for behavior we otherwise wouldn't accept.
Who here has the balls, the honesty, the strength of character to be skeptical and critical of their own party's faults, flaws and mistakes?
This is one of the greatest metrics of integrity, morality and trustworthiness. Absent this, we are lowered to grade school, childish finger pointing, blind self denial, and clique mentality.
I was raised in a traditionally conservative home and taught that your own house needs to be in order before criticizing your neighbors house. The illusion of an ordered house, or denial of disorder is not honest or of strong character and invites tyranny of your neighbor, or their tyranny onto you.
So who here has the balls to call out the corruption and incompetence within their own party?
I wonder how many we can put on a list...
I voted 3rd party since then but I know I've got a better chance seeing Moses and Jesus shooting dice on the corner than I do of seeing a 3rd party candidate get elected to higher office.
What's the ONLY way an individual can have an effect on their party? At the ballot box. With their wallet.
I used to be a great fan of "Let's vote the bums out." I thought that by our two major parties seeing votes against incumbants grow to a larger percentage of votes cast that they would realize they were out of touch. But, unfortunately, we can't organize voters to take that step.
With 3% of the vote (and plenty enough to cost FL), Greens changed the dem's political landscape and sent Gore off the deep end.
and it took a legend to get that...
There aren't too many Ralph Nader's anymore...
I don't see what Nader had to do with it. It's not like anyone thought he would win. Greens just decided that the dems were ignoring us, and we made a statement. Most Greens I knew didn't even like Nader, they said he was a big asshole personally, treated his people like crap. But we were sick of being ignored by the dems. What had Clinton done? Nothing; signed a couple Natl Monuments.
Ralph Nader has done more for this country than any of the last 5 President's combined, what does Nader have to do with it he says, he says...
One advantage to not belonging to a party. Isn't it...
...the obvious question, then, is what drives blacks and latinos to want more government?but you don't have to be a member of a party to be perceived as supporting one more than the other (e.g. a Republican in Libertarian clothing, or a Dem in Libertarian clothing) ... in any event, ideology matters more on these threads I believe ... the disagreements are usually along the right-left continuum, usually between the ones on either end, and...often between more or less government, which typically puts libertarians on the side of Republicans - it's also that divide that helps to explain, to a considerable degree I suspect, why blacks and Latinos tend to vote overwhelmingly Dem
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