You actually think Trump's performance in Helsinki was "putting America first"? That goes back to what I said originally. Anyone who saw that and still sticks to that false meme is not really an American anymore. The political diversion about "marxism" is irrelevant to this discussion. This is a about an amoral President who will say and do anything to protect and glorify himself and himself alone.
It was about international diplomacy. It is a big world out there with many issues to be dealt with. Our elections are our responsibility. The question you are referring to was inappropriate and had more to do with partisanship than the purpose of Helsinki.
Marxism is not a diversion. If you understand the teachings of Karl Marx and the emerging platform of the Democratic Party (and would be willing to be honest about it) - we are talking about Progressives, hence a factor.
This piece by David French discusses a Gallup study on shifting Democratic ideology and data suggesting that left-wing polarization is "primarily driven by a “progressive activist” class that is disproportionately white, disproportionately college-educated, and disproportionately secular," and
argues that:
And ironically enough, a large part of this angry white activism is conducted on behalf of a black and brown population that is more moderate and more religious than their woke white champions. At a time when being a “white savior” is seen as a mark of insensitivity — denying the power and autonomy of nonwhite Americans — white savioring is practically the mission statement of woke Twitter.
Nothing I say should be construed to minimize the polarization inherent particularly in Republican populism and a Trumpian political strategy that so often depends on demonizing his opposition and doing his best to inflame his base (I’ve written about the perils of Trumpism at exhaustive length). But those who care about the health of the American republic cannot and must not ignore the fact that our most powerful cultural cohort just keeps radicalizing. And they’re radicalizing in the least tolerant way. American politics are dangerously polarized, and white progressives share a large part of the blame. White Progressives Shifting Democratic Party to Left and Polarizing America | National Review
My question is this: Is there a point that will prompt push-back?
Many right-wing bigots brought this on themselves. Maybe they should have thought twice before posting pictures of Obama's face on a watermelon, or Michelle Obama as a chimp in a dress and heels, or being OK with babies being locked in cages.
That, in my opinion, is the polarization of America.
This piece by David French discusses a Gallup study on shifting Democratic ideology and data suggesting that left-wing polarization is "primarily driven by a “progressive activist” class that is disproportionately white, disproportionately college-educated, and disproportionately secular," and
argues that:
And ironically enough, a large part of this angry white activism is conducted on behalf of a black and brown population that is more moderate and more religious than their woke white champions. At a time when being a “white savior” is seen as a mark of insensitivity — denying the power and autonomy of nonwhite Americans — white savioring is practically the mission statement of woke Twitter.
Nothing I say should be construed to minimize the polarization inherent particularly in Republican populism and a Trumpian political strategy that so often depends on demonizing his opposition and doing his best to inflame his base (I’ve written about the perils of Trumpism at exhaustive length). But those who care about the health of the American republic cannot and must not ignore the fact that our most powerful cultural cohort just keeps radicalizing. And they’re radicalizing in the least tolerant way. American politics are dangerously polarized, and white progressives share a large part of the blame. White Progressives Shifting Democratic Party to Left and Polarizing America | National Review
My question is this: Is there a point that will prompt push-back?
My question is this: Is there a point that will prompt push-back?
Your comment on infanticide illustrates my point. Thanks
What you incorrectly call Marxism are really Social programs that are a part of FDR's 2nd Bill of Rights. Conspiring with a foreign adversary to fix an election is treason. So is being compromised by a foreign power and lying about it. Helsinki was a display of just that offense. That you cannot grasp that is also not American. Americans love their country over all else and a President that sides with our adversary against America is a traitor . Trumpists have chosen Trump over American values and the rule of law. You might as well admit that to yourself. When Trump is gone you will have nothing.
No, AOC, Sanders, etc. are well removed from FDR.
As to conspiring with a foreign government to fix an election - sounds like the old "Russian collusion" gambit that has been discarded in exchange for sex with porn stars and NYC Taxi medallions. Even Mueller seems to have given up on that one. Time to move on.
Blah blah blah blah.....
Where were you when liberals were making a assassination movies about Bush?
Chimp?
God almighty, you never look past the end of your own nose....do you!
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Yup....................those darn racist Republicans!
Might it be possibly that some supported Romney over Obama because they shared his ideology - and the same with Trump over Hillary. Or must there be "scumbags' involved?
lol at you not understanding the long racial history of whites referring to blacks as chimps or monkey's.
And say what you want about Democrats, but Obama didn't go around for six years claiming that Bush was a foreign born Muslim with a fake birth certificate. That was what your boy Trump did to Obama, the same Trump dumb ass Republicans voted for in the primaries, and then general election.
Mueller's report is not out but that does not preclude every example of criminal behavior by a President being judged by the rule of law. You do understand that America survives because we follow the rule of law don't you? Did you miss that part in school? If we allow a President to thwart the rule of law by ANY means there is no more America. You see the problem you have? How many felonies do you think Trump might be guilty of? You seem to be admitting to one at least.
What ideology did Trump and Romney have? Because both of them were/are flip flopping frauds who's "positions" were all over the place. Trump is even worse, a guy who spent his entire life switching back and forth between Republicans and Democrats. Trump has no ideology, and never will. He's the ultimate opportunist.
I don't know who that is so I can hardly ask him but I do know that when I went into the voting booth, there were only two viable candidates. And as I have shown, race, gender, preferences, etc. are the obsessions of the left, hardly we who supported Trump over Hillary. Those things were not a factor to us in opting for Trump nor are they factors in continuing a preference for his agenda over that offered by the Dems.
I can't read his mind. However, considering the choice of Trump vs Hillary the choice was clear to those who did not want to continue the slide towards Marxism (and to those who did). And the way things are shaping up, 2020 is going to be the same - in spades.
As to "Putting America first", that is exactly what Trump does - and out cones the Hitler comparisons.
This piece by David French discusses a Gallup study on shifting Democratic ideology and data suggesting that left-wing polarization is "primarily driven by a “progressive activist” class that is disproportionately white, disproportionately college-educated, and disproportionately secular," and
argues that:
And ironically enough, a large part of this angry white activism is conducted on behalf of a black and brown population that is more moderate and more religious than their woke white champions. At a time when being a “white savior” is seen as a mark of insensitivity — denying the power and autonomy of nonwhite Americans — white savioring is practically the mission statement of woke Twitter.
Nothing I say should be construed to minimize the polarization inherent particularly in Republican populism and a Trumpian political strategy that so often depends on demonizing his opposition and doing his best to inflame his base (I’ve written about the perils of Trumpism at exhaustive length). But those who care about the health of the American republic cannot and must not ignore the fact that our most powerful cultural cohort just keeps radicalizing. And they’re radicalizing in the least tolerant way. American politics are dangerously polarized, and white progressives share a large part of the blame. White Progressives Shifting Democratic Party to Left and Polarizing America | National Review
My question is this: Is there a point that will prompt push-back?
Richard Spencer was the hail Trump guy. Plenty of trumpists voted for him as a whitelash.
Except he doesnt. Lol you think Hillary was anything like a marxist?
There's always a point where the push-back prompts a push-back against the push-back.
Inflating what's happening right now however in an effort to attempt further push would just result in a further push-back of truly monumental proportions in the near future.
Example: Referring to mainstream progressives in a manner reminiscent of 1950's Birch Society Red Scare fanatics, i.e. labeling mainstream progressives as extremists, communists, etc.
That would fall under that category of "demonizing his opposition and doing his best to inflame his base" you referred to.
Yes, there is a move afoot in the Democratic Party to move the party back a little bit more to the Left, but it is Center-Left, NOT COMMUNISM or pure full steam ahead socialism.
It is nothing more than a cyclical effort to put the Democratic Party back on Center-Left footing instead of "neoliberal Republican-Lite" which it has been for the last twenty to twenty-five years.
If anyone cares about my opinion, I'm seeing a move more toward FDR.
It doesn't do anyone any good to paint that as a move toward Stalin or Mao Tse-Tung or even Eugene V. Debs.
But I expect that Republicans will be ratcheting up that hyperbole even more than they are right now, by several orders of magnitude. I seriously doubt anything will stop that. I'm expecting full scale hair on fire hysteria in the next six months.
I don't think the repub machine can crank up the hyperbole any further - they've had the amp at 11 for years now. Turn on Fox or wingnut radio and it's non-stop hyperventilating about "deep state", "coup" and "socialism" among other things. The Limbaughization of the right is complete.
I moved into a reddish area from a purple one in 2015, which was just in time to witness them all (well almost all) jumping the shark of Trumpism.
I'm sure you didn't miss all the recent threads where righties are pimping nutter attacks on MAGA people.
That's part and parcel of the "11" setting but more important, it's justification for the final step: "call to war".
Nope, didn't miss any of it.
The "war" tone in the right wing media didn't begin with Trump but he's amplified it like a champ. The nut job in Silver Spring, MD heard the call to arms.
Yeah, and by the way, Silver Spring, MD is very close to Bethesda, MD...where I grew up until early 1977.
I know. Likewise my childhood stomping grounds of Rockville.
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