White House border czar suggests ICE can detain people based on ‘physical appearance’

[Hamish Howl]

None of those are stereotypes. All can give reasonable suspicion.

If someone reports a theft, and you get stopped because you match the description (appearance), are in the area of the incident (location), and look like you are trying to avoid the police (actions), of course they can question you.

What criteria do you think should be used for reasonable suspicion if not appearance, location, and actions?

So, a brown dude walking down the street in LA can just be stopped and hassled?

 

[CaughtInThe]

You have quite the active imagination.

Or I, you know, read.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Come on.

maga WANTS brown people profiled and stopped & frisked and arrested and deported to horrible places so other brown people (mainly hired by Republican business owners) are afraid to come here.

Even if it's some hardworking 20yo brown guy coming to work our fields so he can go home and ask his girlfriend to marry him.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Meanwhile...



"According to various Trump administration officials and other sources close to the president, one key reason the government has been fighting so hard on this, at first to keep him imprisoned in El Salvador, and now to keep punishing him, is that officials believe that if they back down on the Abrego Garcia case, it could set a precedent that opens the floodgates to other legal challenges.

“Going soft” on this, as one senior Trump appointee puts it, could potentially be used against the administration in court, in challenges not only to different aspects of their immigration crackdowns, but to other ways in which Trump is wielding executive power that have little or nothing to do with immigration, per se."

Why Trump's Admin Insists on Terrorizing Kilmar Abrego Garcia

A judge ordered Abrego Garcia’s release. Trump officials want to use the opportunity to deport him to El Salvador again — or an unnamed third country.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[CaughtInThe]

Kilmar Abrego Garcia describes ‘severe beatings’ and ‘psychological torture’ in Salvadoran prison​

https://www.lemkininstitute.com/single-post/kilmar-abrego-garcia-describes-severe-beatings-and-psychological-torture-in-salvadoran-prison

 

[ClaraD]

Right. So it's silly to assume that they're pulling people over simply because they have a Spanish name. Roughly 1/3 of ICE agents are Latino.

Do you refer to yourself as a "brown person." LatinX? The left is having a hard time trying to pigeonhole people under an umbrella term for its identity politics aims.

No, go ahead and show me where they are treating white people the same way

 

[CaughtInThe]

No, go ahead and show me where they are treating white people the same way

A white pedophile is President.

 

[Anthony60]

and by description you mean brown.

The left, always focusing on race. Pathetic and disgusting.

 

[Anthony60]

so you don’t know what the 4th amendment is. Oh no.

You just burped out "secret police" as if that constitutes some kind of argument. It is you that doesn't know what the 4A is, otherwise you would have tried to make a point of some kind.

 

[Taylor]

So, a brown dude walking down the street in LA can just be stopped and hassled?

No.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The left, always focusing on race. Pathetic and disgusting.

That is because they are racists.

Racists care about race. The rest of us care about character.

 

[marduc]

If one is running northward from the Rio Grande and is sopping wet, that's a "physical appearance clue."

Oblique reference to a "wetback" noted.

 

[Questerr]

Congratulations, you agree with Tom Homan.

What “physical appearance” is reasonable suspicion of someone being an illegal immigrant?

Homan thinks “physical appearance” justifies detention and questioning.

 

[Questerr]

That is because they are racists.

Racists care about race. The rest of us care about character.

You care about character and you voted for a convicted felon, sexual predator, serial cheater, fraudster banned from operating charities, and compulsive liar?

 

[Questerr]

If one is running northward from the Rio Grande and is sopping wet, that's a "physical appearance clue."

Wow. Imagine being this racist.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Come on.

maga WANTS brown people profiled and stopped & frisked and arrested and deported to horrible places so other brown people (mainly hired by Republican business owners) are afraid to come here.

Even if it's some hardworking 20yo brown guy coming to work our fields so he can go home and ask his girlfriend to marry him.

Well, yeah. You can't make America great again without Stasi hassling brown poor people.

No.

It sounds like that's what the man said.

 

[Hamish Howl]

If one is running northward from the Rio Grande and is sopping wet, that's a "physical appearance clue."

That would be a hell of a trick in Arizona. I mean, we HAVE a river, only there's no water in it.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Okay. Let’s run through it.

ICE agents see people hanging out in front of a Home Depot.

They ask to see ID.

The people say go **** yourself.

What should ICE do next?

Obvious. You tear gas them and maybe put the boot in a bit, then zip tie them and ship them off to El Salvador. If they were citizens, it's a shame but they were RUDE.

 

[Hamish Howl]

His comments match the behavior of his secret police. Your gaslighting just sucks and it’s frustrating you.

Amazingly enough, ICE goons are quitting left and right. I don't think they expected people to stand up to their shit and it they just don't get the boner they got on 1/6.

 

[Hamish Howl]

That is because they are racists.

Racists care about race. The rest of us care about character.

Character, you say?

How's that Epstein thing coming along?

 

[Lovebug]

If one is running northward from the Rio Grande and is sopping wet, that's a "physical appearance clue."

I think Home Depot was mentioned.

 

[SCrider]

The left, always focusing on race. Pathetic and disgusting.

What the **** do you think they are focused on?

 

[The Brad Dad]

Amazingly enough, ICE goons are quitting left and right. I don't think they expected people to stand up to their shit and it they just don't get the boner they got on 1/6.

Don't ever forget: right wing men are softer than toilet paper too.

 

[The Brad Dad]

You just burped out "secret police" as if that constitutes some kind of argument. It is you that doesn't know what the 4A is, otherwise you would have tried to make a point of some kind.

You don't know what 4A is, eh? LOLOLOLOL

 

[lwf]

Yes, that is a specific description of a person wanted for a specific crime. Demanding ID from brown people because they're brown is not that. The 4th amendment protects us from that.

Agreed. Unfortunately, there are enough wanted criminals out there that racist law enforcement officers can usually get away with the latter by citing the former. There doesn't seem to be a good legislative way to prevent this other than with better officer screening and civilian lawsuits brought after the fact.