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While it's fun to bash Trump, there's an important lesson here.

iliveonramen said:
I don't understand this argument.

The US education system is much more decentralized than a lot of other countries. Most funding and decisions are made at the state and local level.

The decentralization is part of the problem. Massachusetts took the PISA tests to see how they ranked compared to the rest of the world. They were among the top school systems in the world in reading, science, and math. Compare that to other states where education is underfunded and schools aren't a top priority.
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Do you know that inner city schools get far more funding than others?
 
Sandy Shanks said:
In other words, he is insane.

Despite all the damage Trump has done, we still have the largest and most successful economy in the world with manageable inflation and record low unemployment.

Trump wants to change that. That is crazy.
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Please explain what "damage" he has done. I am all ears.
 
Paradoxical said:
Do you know that inner city schools get far more funding than others?
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That what others?

I wouldn't be surprised that it takes more to run a school in NYC than it does to run one in Mobile Alabama or Tampa Florida. I'm looking at a list of the top 50 school districts and most tend to fall in NY/NJ or Chicago.

Or are you saying that a poor school in Mississippi gets more funding per pupil than the rich side of town?
 
iliveonramen said:
That what others?

I wouldn't be surprised that it takes more to run a school in NYC than it does to run one in Mobile Alabama or Tampa Florida. I'm looking at a list of the top 50 school districts and most tend to fall in NY/NJ or Chicago.

Or are you saying that a poor school in Mississippi gets more funding per pupil than the rich side of town?
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I am saying that schools in high crime areas such as the inner cities get FAR more money AND armed guards.
 
The Mark said:
I personally tend to think that capitalism cannot be trusted to run itself, and requires regulatory and legal limits to prevent the excesses it naturally trends towards, which will harm people.
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Capitalism is an amoral system. Without regulation it's only concern is the maximization of profit.
 
aociswundumho said:
Do you consider a government imposing tariffs to be a form of authoritarianism?
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It is a form of stupidity. And it should be a function of Congress, not a crooked president pretending that we are in some sort of emergency situation which doesn’t exist. It is a protectionist move that in today’s world economy has little chance of a positive outcome, especially when poorly thought out and implemented merely on the whims of the shitty president.
 
Paradoxical said:
I am saying that schools in high crime areas such as the inner cities get FAR more money AND armed guards.
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You are saying things that aren’t evidenced by reality. Making things up, as ususal.
 
aociswundumho said:
Trump has a vision of taking America back to a time when most people worked in factories, and he's actually trying to force that vision on the rest of us. His use of tariffs is a clear example of government central planning, just on a small scale. He's using state power to try to reshape the American economy according to his own personal preferences.

It’s important to understand that tariffs are built on the same logic as central planning: the belief that government officials should override voluntary exchange and market signals to engineer a particular economic outcome. That’s the dangerous idea behind it.

Thankfully, Trump only has limited power, because this is still a free country. The U.S. is not a socialist state with a centrally planned economy.

But let’s think about how much damage he can do using only tariffs. Then imagine if he had control over the entire economy: wages, prices, raw materials, labor markets - every input. That would be a disaster. And we already have a name for that kind of system: socialism, which is public control over the means of production.

Trump is demonstrating to us why socialist countries are so poor - and why their people are often so miserable that the government has to build walls to keep them from escaping.

If you want prosperity, and the freedom to buy what you want, from who you want , then the answer is capitalism and largely free markets, not state control or central planning.
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Democratic socialism doesn’t require a centrally planned economy. Even the US has elements of socialism to offset the harm caused by laissez faire capitalism left unchecked by any social concerns.
 
aociswundumho said:
Trump has a vision of taking America back to a time when most people worked in factories, and he's actually trying to force that vision on the rest of us. His use of tariffs is a clear example of government central planning, just on a small scale. He's using state power to try to reshape the American economy according to his own personal preferences.

It’s important to understand that tariffs are built on the same logic as central planning: the belief that government officials should override voluntary exchange and market signals to engineer a particular economic outcome. That’s the dangerous idea behind it.

Thankfully, Trump only has limited power, because this is still a free country. The U.S. is not a socialist state with a centrally planned economy.

But let’s think about how much damage he can do using only tariffs. Then imagine if he had control over the entire economy: wages, prices, raw materials, labor markets - every input. That would be a disaster. And we already have a name for that kind of system: socialism, which is public control over the means of production.

Trump is demonstrating to us why socialist countries are so poor - and why their people are often so miserable that the government has to build walls to keep them from escaping.

If you want prosperity, and the freedom to buy what you want, from who you want , then the answer is capitalism and largely free markets, not state control or central planning.
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Trump does not believe in free market capitalism. If it is not rigged it is not what he wants. He is the reincarnation of the "Robber Barons" only much dumber. He is a moron actually.
 
Sandy Shanks said:
In other words, he is insane.
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Now the President is threatening to start a war with Iran.

CNN reports, "Trump said military strikes are possible against Iran if a new nuclear deal isn’t reached, though he said Israel – which has been advocating for an attack on Iran – would take the lead.

“If it requires military, we’re going to have military,” Trump said on Wednesday. “Israel will obviously be very much involved in that. They’ll be the leader of that.”
 
KingLeo said:
And creating alternative facts is something all Trumpers do.
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Maybe, but you are also very good at it.

Simon W. Moon said:
no question just pointing out that your post may not have meant as much as you thought it did
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Since you are saying you did not intend to make sense, why should anyone care what you say?
 
Lycanthrope said:
Are you suggesting that is a primary goal of capitalism?
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No, that's just one of the its many benefits, and I notice you didn't dispute it.

I would say the primary goal of capitalism is the efficient allocation of limited resources.
 
aociswundumho said:
No, that's just one of the its many benefits, and I notice you didn't dispute it.

I would say the primary goal of capitalism is the efficient allocation of limited resources.
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I don't dispute that capitalism, independent of various social conditions, has the ability to lift an individual from poverty.

I dispute wholeheartedly that that is a primary goal of capitalism, rather as you say merely a potential "benefit."
 
aociswundumho said:
No, that's just one of the its many benefits, and I notice you didn't dispute it.

I would say the primary goal of capitalism is the efficient allocation of limited resources.
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Then capitalism utterly fails that goal because it has no mechanism to deal with the massive inefficiencies in the form of externalities.
 
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