Which state are you from?

[MamboDervish]

Shouldn't credit for brutalist architecture go to the Nazis?

It's actually English, and dates to the 1950's.

 

[LouC]

Inebria.

Been there, done that...*hic*

 

[gman]

I was born and raised in rural Upstate New York, I spent six years in the Navy stationed in Guam and Italy, lived nearly 40 years in Connecticut, and now retired back in Upsate New York

We’re spending a couple of days here in canandaigua. Head home tomorrow. I love NY state.

 

[Ganondagan]

We’re spending a couple of days here in canandaigua. Head home tomorrow. I love NY state.

I live in Honeoye Falls, about 40 minutes from Canandagua. I'm there frequently because my VA facility is in Canandaqua. Two of my favorate restaurants are there: Nolan's and New York Kitchen.

 

[Mycroft]

This is one of the more interesting ones .... this guy made it his life's work to build a personal castle in a reasonably remote area of Colorado... largely funded by people that stop in to see how its going...

Bishop Castle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm glad you mentioned Bishop's Castle. If you hadn't, I would have.

Here's a video with his son, Jim Bishop, talking about his dad and how the castle evolved over the decades. An amazing story.



I've been there many times over the last 34 years. Every time I go I see something new.

 

[BirdinHand]

Born in Wilkes Barre, PA, raised in the Lehigh Valley, PA. Moved to Atlanta Georgia in 1976 at age 20. Never left.

Born in the same area as @Jessie C!

Raised in “the Valley”, moved to Philadelphia when I went to college. Lived in the Greater Philly area for more than a decade. Moved to South Jersey and have been here for coming up on 15 years?


Damn I’m getting old

 

[MamboDervish]

Born in the same area as @Jessie C!

Raised in “the Valley”, moved to Philadelphia when I went to college. Lived in the Greater Philly area for more than a decade. Moved to South Jersey and have been here for coming up on 15 years?


Damn I’m getting old

Nah …. You’re still just a kid.

 

[BirdinHand]

Nah …. You’re still just a kid.

Someone give my knees the memo

 

[gman]

I live in Honeoye Falls, about 40 minutes from Canandagua. I'm there frequently because my VA facility is in Canandaqua. Two of my favorate restaurants are there: Nolan's and New York Kitchen.

Last time here we ate at Nolan’s. Last night was the finger lakes public house. I saw the sign for the VA and thought if I ever had a problem I don’t have far to go.

 

[Ganondagan]

Last time here we ate at Nolan’s. Last night was the finger lakes public house. I saw the sign for the VA and thought if I ever had a problem I don’t have far to go.

That VA facility has been awesome, so friendly and efficient. The VA has community service for medical issues that require ouside specialists. In fact, today - in just a few hours - I'll be undergoing cervical spinal surgery at Rochester's Strong Memorial hospital. That's also where my kidney transplant was done. I feel blessed to have such good medical facilities within this area. Betweeen the VA and my Aetna insurance I had only about $1,000 out of pocket expense for my kidney transplant.

 

[LouC]

I'm glad you mentioned Bishop's Castle. If you hadn't, I would have.

Here's a video with his son, Jim Bishop, talking about his dad and how the castle evolved over the decades. An amazing story.



I've been there many times over the last 34 years. Every time I go I see something new.

Cool. I would like to see that.

 

[gman]

That VA facility has been awesome, so friendly and efficient. The VA has community service for medical issues that require ouside specialists. In fact, today - in just a few hours - I'll be undergoing cervical spinal surgery at Rochester's Strong Memorial hospital. That's also where my kidney transplant was done. I feel blessed to have such good medical facilities within this area. Betweeen the VA and my Aetna insurance I had only about $1,000 out of pocket expense for my kidney transplant.

So far, knock wood I haven’t experienced anything serious enough to use outside services. One of my battle buddies has had some very serious issues and his VA has also been incredible. I believe his care has exceeded the million dollar mark and possibly two.

 

[EnigmaO01]

You are from Bavaria, and I know this because you are Catholic.

There are a lot of non catholics in Bavaria too. I know this because I lived in Bavaria for a few years (Bad Tolz).

I currently life in the U.S. state of Indiana. I have lived in many places due to being a military dependent. My favorite U.S. state to live in was Massachusetts. I graduated from a college in Michigan.

 

[Chagos]

Shouldn't credit for brutalist architecture go to the Nazis?

Le Corbusier

 

[MamboDervish]

Le Corbusier

In this country, Paul Rudolf from Yale.




This last one is Paul's Art and Architecture School building in Yale.

 

[Felis Leo]

Born in LA, and raised in California’s Central Valley. I love my state and I have no intention of leaving.

 

[Chagos]

In this country, Paul Rudolf from Yale.

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This last one is Paul's Art and Architecture School building in Yale.

Good examples.

Just for the record though, the term brutalist architecture has little to do with what one might perceive as brutal (to the eye), it's derived from the French béton brut which simply denotes naked concrete, IOW covered by nothing at all like plastering or other forms of concealment.

Le Corbusier first coined the name for the material, respectively the appearance, after having applied it to one of his buildings in Marseille, France.

The fallacious attribution to Nazi Germany in post #100 (fallacious as in "not surprising, considering the source") is ignorant inasmuch as the Nazis' preferred style was more like neo-classicism, spiced with "gigantomania" and had nothing to do with the original concept.

Soviet architecture, as pointed out by another poster, indeed was more in béton brut albeit not very pleasing to the eye either.

 

[Safiel]

The fallacious attribution to Nazi Germany in post #100 (fallacious as in "not surprising, considering the source") is ignorant inasmuch as the Nazis' preferred style was more like neo-classicism, spiced with "gigantomania" and had nothing to do with the original concept.

Somehow, I think brutalism would have been FAR beneath Albert Speer.

The New Reich Chancellery was the 100% opposite of brutalism.

 

[Grand Mal]

I am not from a US state

British Columbia. A Canadian province. It's nowhere near the largest province in Canada but is larger than Germany and France combined and has about 5 million people.

 

[MamboDervish]

Born in LA, and raised in California’s Central Valley. I love my state and I have no intention of leaving.

May the ground never shake beneath your feet!

 

[Felis Leo]

Somehow, I think brutalism would have been FAR beneath Albert Speer.

The New Reich Chancellery was the 100% opposite of brutalism.

Speer designed architecture in a style referred to as "Stripped Classicism" or "Starved Classicism." Basically imitating ancient Roman and Grecian architecture but without a great deal of the ornamentation.

Stripped Classicism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[MamboDervish]

Good examples.

Just for the record though, the term brutalist architecture has little to do with what one might perceive as brutal (to the eye), it's derived from the French béton brut which simply denotes naked concrete, IOW covered by nothing at all like plastering or other forms of concealment.

Le Corbusier first coined the name for the material, respectively the appearance, after having applied it to one of his buildings in Marseille, France.

Yes - and of course I knew all of that. I spent 2-1/2 years inspecting and supervising facade repairs on Tracy Towers in the Bronx. That's the middle picture of the three in my post. Built in the early 70's, they are still the tallest structures in the Bronx. At 42 stories per, and with 45 scaffold locations hanging on each building, it was a challenging, and occasionally brutal assignment - pun intended

The fallacious attribution to Nazi Germany in post #100 (fallacious as in "not surprising, considering the source") is ignorant inasmuch as the Nazis' preferred style was more like neo-classicism, spiced with "gigantomania" and had nothing to do with the original concept.

Soviet architecture, as pointed out by another poster, indeed was more in béton brut albeit not very pleasing to the eye either.

Shitty architecture is just shitty architecture, no matter where it is. And great architecture can be great, even when it's formed of raw concrete. The top picture was the Orange Country NY municipal building until it was decommissioned for a larger space a few years ago. I know they spent years trying to find someone to buy it, and maintain it as an historically remarkable structure - and it certainly is, both inside and out. I can't recall if they finally found a buyer. I hope it still exists.

 

[Daisy]

I was born in Richlands, VA...Tazewell County...we moved to the Roanoke VA. area when I was 5...this is home...

 

[Grand Mal]

Speer designed architecture in a style referred to as "Stripped Classicism" or "Starved Classicism." Basically imitating ancient Roman and Grecian architecture but without a great deal of the ornamentation.

Stripped Classicism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I once saw on the tube a film of a Speer-designed Nazi rally. It was outdoors at night and he had dozens of those high-intensity searchlights pointing straight up around the venue. The effect was like Greek or Roman columns taken to a greater scale. It was very impressive, in a Nazi-impressive manner.

 

[instagramsci]

Born and raised in Pennsylvania.