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Which is more dangerous : Covid or the Covid vaccines?

Which is more dangerous? Covid or the Covid vaccines?

  • Covid

  • Covid vaccines


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I don’t need your permission on what I do with my body. But I do appreciate your input. :ROFLMAO:
Here’s my input: do whatever the hell you want. As I said at the end of the day you’ll get what you deserve.
Got asthma? You’re at high risk.
Smoker? High risk
Overweight: high risk
Immune compromised? High risk
Heart disease, high blood pressure?
High risk
Hey! Go for it!
 
I have a solution.

Don't permit MAGAs to be vaccinated. Everyone is happy, the end.
What if others besides “MAGA” refuse the vaccine. You good with that? :ROFLMAO:
 
Actually it will be years before we know the impact on fertility. All those young children that were given the jab, we won’t know until they are ready to reproduce. Years from now. And how about those women who were pregnant while getting the jab? What lies ahead for their babies? The fact is it will be years before we truly know the impact of the covid vaccines. You can dismiss what I presented (and I am fairly confident you will) but it doesn’t make it any less viable.
What, you think the jab is made out of bourbon or something?
 
Says you. But you're not a medical doctor, nor are you a scientist with experience or expertise in a field pertinent to a discussion of vaccines.

What's your non-professional basis for being concerned that the covid-19 vaccine might negatively impact ability to reproduce?

As for those women who were/are pregnant and received/receive vaccines:

COVID-19 During Pregnancy

Pregnancy makes it more likely that you'll experience serious complications from COVID-19, like preterm birth and preeclampsia.
my.clevelandclinic.org
my.clevelandclinic.org

...Prevention

What can I do to avoid getting COVID while pregnant?


You can take the same steps during pregnancy as you normally would to avoid getting COVID-19.

Getting the COVID-19 vaccine is the most effective way to protect yourself from the virus. Vaccination is safe and effective during pregnancy. Get the flu vaccine (and other vaccines your provider recommends), too....
Never one time have I claimed to be a doctor. Have I? it will be years…..before we know the actual impact. Those children who got the vaccinations will not be procreating for a while. Just sayin’.
 
What's more dangerous? Stupidity. Stupidity killed hundreds of thousands of our citizens,
 
Horseshit. You can get the same strain multiple times. No place in the world has developed herd immunity to covid.

Perhaps I am wrong, and you have a peer-reviewed source to prove me wwrong.

Absolutely true. THis is why cholera was so deadly to Native Americans and not to Europeans... Europeans had developed an immunity... see also malaria ... bubonic plague.. etc. etc.

Populations that live in and with a regional virus (like COVID) have a greater natural immunity than those who don't. It's just a fact no matter how senselessly angry the fact makes you.
 
Absolutely true. THis is why cholera was so deadly to Native Americans and not to Europeans... Europeans had developed an immunity... see also malaria ... bubonic plague.. etc. etc.

Populations that live in and with a regional virus (like COVID) have a greater natural immunity than those who don't. It's just a fact no matter how senselessly angry the fact makes you.
Oddly enough, I don't see a link in there anywhere, which leads me to conclude that you are blowing smoke.

And wait. You're saying cholera was not deadly to Europeans? Did you mean to say that? Please say you meant to say that.
 
Remember how everyone got "natural immunity" to smallpox and herd immunity finished the virus off 15,000 years ago?

The vaccine doesn't work, and you can be reinfected, but also, you can develop a natural immunity and be reinfected because the vaccine doesn't work.

Schrodinger's covid, man.

😂
 
Here’s my input: do whatever the hell you want. As I said at the end of the day you’ll get what you deserve.
Got asthma? You’re at high risk.
Smoker? High risk
Overweight: high risk
Immune compromised? High risk
Heart disease, high blood pressure?
High risk
Hey! Go for it!
What does that have to do with the covid vaccinations? Are you saying a 7 year old is high risk if they don’t get the vaccination? Or how about a 18 year old boy? How about a 23 year old mother? So many questions ….
 
Absolutely true. THis is why cholera was so deadly to Native Americans and not to Europeans... Europeans had developed an immunity... see also malaria ... bubonic plague.. etc. etc.

Populations that live in and with a regional virus (like COVID) have a greater natural immunity than those who don't. It's just a fact no matter how senselessly angry the fact makes you.

This guy has no clue what natural immunity means.
 
It was developed to fight cancer and has been in use in one form or another for 20 years.
Before 2020 no mRNA-based drug or vaccine had received regulatory approval in the US (nor elsewhere I don't think).

Zero.

There were limited clinical trials being done in that decade before for things like rabies, but regulatory approval for any mRNA-based drug did not happen until COVID.

For what it's worth, I think mRNA tech probably has one of the best possibilities of being the greatest impact on cancer in the future. But it's pretty new stuff still.
 
Oddly enough, I don't see a link in there anywhere, which leads me to conclude that you are blowing smoke.

And wait. You're saying cholera was not deadly to Europeans? Did you mean to say that? Please say you meant to say that.
Google is your friend Hamish
 
Never one time have I claimed to be a doctor. Have I? it will be years…..before we know the actual impact. Those children who got the vaccinations will not be procreating for a while. Just sayin’.
Post #256

I haven't said you claimed to be a doctor.

I've pointed out that you most definitely do not have any professional experience or expertise related to the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

I've also pointed out that millions of people around the globe have taken the covid-19 vaccine and have suffered no ill effects save soreness at the injection site, perhaps a transient fever....

I've pointed out that the august Cleveland Clinic has said not only is the vaccine safe for use by pregnant women, it has also advised they should get the injection in order to safeguard themselves and their babies.

BUT you, someone who knows zip about vaccines and doesn't seem to care about saving lives - or even about lessening the chances that people end up with long-covid - you put your opinion above those who have the background to be taken credibly. Who actually know what they're talking about.

Your uninformed opinion above the biggest clinical trial in the history of the globe.

Ignorance, hubris, and a stunning indifference to the safety and welfare of others, their families, their workplaces, their churches, their communities are traits common to trump, his administration, and to MAGA.
 
Before 2020 no mRNA-based drug or vaccine had received regulatory approval in the US (nor elsewhere I don't think).

Zero.
Except, you know, as an ebola vaccine.



Approved by the FDA in 2019.

That was the first hit on google. I'm not even counting research trials.

Would you like to know more?
 
Oddly enough, I don't see a link in there anywhere, which leads me to conclude that you are blowing smoke.

It's high school level biology. Kinda assume most people understand it....

See Point #4 in the following Article.


It turns out that Asians in America, pre-vaccine, had far fewer infections and hospitalizations and one of those reasons were genetic... which you would expect from a population that has been living with COVID, a SE Asian disease, for thousands of years.
 
Post #256

I haven't said you claimed to be a doctor.

I've pointed out that you most definitely do not have any professional experience or expertise related to the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

I've also pointed out that millions of people around the globe have taken the covid-19 vaccine and have suffered no ill effects save soreness at the injection site, perhaps a transient fever....

I've pointed out that the august Cleveland Clinic has said not only is the vaccine safe for use by pregnant women, they should get the injection in order to safeguard themselves and their babies.

BUT you, someone who knows zip about vaccines and doesn't seem to care about saving lives - or even about lessening the chances that people end up with long-covid - put your opinion above those who have the background to be taken credibly. Who actually know what they're talking about.

Your uninformed opinion above the biggest clinical trial in the history of the globe.

Ignorance, hubris, and a stunning indifference to the safety and welfare of those in their families, their workplaces, their churches, their communities are traits common to trump, his administration, and to MAGA.
Of course I don’t have any professional experience. Never one time did I claim to have. Not sure why you keep bringing that up other in an attempt to believe somehow you are superior. I have absolutely no problem at all with anyone getting the jab if that is what they want. I support their decision to do so. I will never ever do so again. If you believe I am “ignorant” I honestly don’t care. My body, my choice.
 
The vaccine doesn't work, and you can be reinfected, but also, you can develop a natural immunity and be reinfected because the vaccine doesn't work.

Schrodinger's covid, man.

😂
Post #261


LOL.....very good!
 
Of course I don’t have any professional experience. Never one time did I claim to have.
By supporting false claims you put people at risk.
Not sure why you keep bringing that up other in an attempt to believe somehow you are superior. I have absolutely no problem at all with anyone getting the jab if that is what they want. I support their decision to do so. I will never ever do so again. If you believe I am “ignorant” I honestly don’t care. My body, my choice.
 
Of course I don’t have any professional experience. Never one time did I claim to have. Not sure why you keep bringing that up other in an attempt to believe somehow you are superior. I have absolutely no problem at all with anyone getting the jab if that is what they want. I support their decision to do so. I will never ever do so again. If you believe I am “ignorant” I honestly don’t care. My body, my choice.
LOL....no, I keep bringing up your lack of medical or scientific (re vaccines) experience in order to contrast the value of your opinion with the conclusions of the largest clinical trial in the history of the planet AND with the conclusions of those who, unlike you, have the experience and the expertise requisite to be taken as knowledgeable in the applicable fields.
 
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