Where is Trump's Allegiance? To himself or to the nation?

[bongsaway]

In general, everything you post does this.

Ok cool, so you are going to be a bit more specific and show me where I've stated something that wasn't true. I'll wait.

 

[US&THEM]

Not related to the assertion to which I responded.

Oh but it is, one thing you and Trump have made abundantly clear is Trump is Trump. You don’t get to ignore all of his baggage while claiming that same baggage makes him uniquely qualified. Dude has been caught cheating, stealing and lying so much you forget what a scumbag grifter he truly has always been.

 

[code1211]

Trump speaks in Mob language. He was signaling Putin. Putin knows exactly what Trump meant whether he has dirt on Biden or not. Trump is extremely unpatriotic to America. And you're still here defending him. That's deplorable.

You hate Trump. I get it.

Your hate proves nothing except that you hate and that hate impedes rational thought.

 

[code1211]

Laughable fantasy... Trump SURROUNDED himself with sleaze...


Trump never works for anyone but himself....

And yet all of the problems that are crippling the nation and the people right now were not even considerations when Trump was in office without Covid.

Border, Ukraine, inflation, crime, supply chain, energy, product shortages, international unrest and on and on.

Perhaps working for the goals that made today's biggest problems non-issues, invisible during the Trump years, is what our leaders SHOULD work for.

How many Mid East Peace Deals has Biden Signed lately? Why was Russian threat not blunted before the invasion?

What is the government working to accomplish today that makes these new problems so HUGE issue today? Why is quietly efficient effectiveness a thing that you hate?

 

[code1211]

He wasn't working on my behalf. All I saw was Trump working on his own behalf. He was eager to pass the one piece of major legislation in his term which resulted in his family and himself getting very large tax windfalls.

He was taken down by the American people in one of the largest popular vote losses ever. In the end, he lost the house and the senate to boot.

And just so you understand, if the 'deep state' wanted to take Trump down, they would have done it long before the 2020 election.

That you don't see the reality around you is interesting to me. Sad for you.

Which outcome of Biden's governance do yo like the best? Product shortages? Border? Ukraine? Inflation? Supply Chain?

 

[Shrink726]

I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question.

 

[code1211]

The presidency was a means to enrich himself and those that can benefit him, nothing more.

And yet the problems that are crippling the US today were non-issues during the Trump years.

Trump must just be lucky, huh.

 

[The AntiDonald]

That you don't see the reality around you is interesting to me. Sad for you.

Which outcome of Biden's governance do yo like the best? Product shortages? Border? Ukraine? Inflation? Supply Chain?

Nothing in that list has much to do with Biden except for perhaps the border. That has many arguments that can be made for Biden. All the rest are global issues. That you try and make all this Bidens fault is what's sad for you.

 

[BlueTex]

And yet all of the problems that are crippling the nation and the people right now were not even considerations when Trump was in office without Covid.

Border, Ukraine, inflation, crime, supply chain, energy, product shortages, international unrest and on and on.

Perhaps working for the goals that made today's biggest problems non-issues, invisible during the Trump years, is what our leaders SHOULD work for.

How many Mid East Peace Deals has Biden Signed lately? Why was Russian threat not blunted before the invasion?

What is the government working to accomplish today that makes these new problems so HUGE issue today? Why is quietly efficient effectiveness a thing that you hate?

There was no crime when Trump was president? No supply chain issues? Product shortages? .... LMAO... This is PRECISELY the fantasy world Trump supporters live in...

 

[The AntiDonald]

And yet the problems that are crippling the US today were non-issues during the Trump years.

Trump must just be lucky, huh.

The US is far from crippled today. A booming economy with very low unemployment numbers and wages rising. Inflation is a backlash from all the shutdowns coupled with price gouging.

 

[code1211]

There is no power than can overcome 45 million Trump cult members saying this:

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Or having people that don't reason:

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What is even more incredible is that these people can totally ignore these facts:

Damning analysis of Trump's pandemic response suggested 40% of US COVID-19 deaths could have been avoided​

Which means that about 460,000 people died unnecessarily so.

And then Trump tweets "Democrats are the enemy of the people", which in turn causes all Democrats to oppose his words.
@realDonaldTrump
The Democrats are the enemy of the people!

As such, Trump's loss was none of what you say caused it. Trump himself caused his own loss.

After you meandered around for a while soaking in your hate and bias, you FINALLY made a reference to the real world.

It was a Lie, but you made a reference.

Deaths, cases, hospitalizations and all the rest of the measurables got worse AFTER Trump left office.

Even vaccinations. On the day the Biden was inaugurated, 1.5 million Americans were vaccinated. Biden promised to reduce that number to 1 million per day.

Biden achieved that reduction and more! What a guy!

Your inability to see the real world is what your post here demonstrates. Nothing less... perhaps much more.

 

[HenryChinaski]

And yet the problems that are crippling the US today were non-issues during the Trump years.

Trump must just be lucky, huh.

The US has always had "problems" this isn't a revelation. And yes there were problems under Trump and he added to them by giving lunatics that used to be relegated to the fringe a voice and brought them into the mainstream. He told them that they're "victims", that liberals in big cities are their enemies and Mexicans are their enemies, Trump by his very nature is dysfunctional and he attracts the dysfunctional, those that thrive on chaos. That isn't the type of person that needs to be leading the free world. The man displays characteristics of a malignant narcissist incapable of empathy. He's also a sadist as his Twitter history shows. Find better people to admire.

 

[joluoto]

Trump only cares about himself. That's just how he works. He'd throw anyone including even Ivanka under the bus to save himself.

 

[code1211]

Ok cool, so you are going to be a bit more specific and show me where I've stated something that wasn't true. I'll wait.

I'll try to more diligent and do so in the future.

 

[Arlette]

Trump only works with first person singular pronouns. It's the "I", the "me" and the "my".

Intellectually and morally unfit for office

 

[code1211]

Oh but it is, one thing you and Trump have made abundantly clear is Trump is Trump. You don’t get to ignore all of his baggage while claiming that same baggage makes him uniquely qualified. Dude has been caught cheating, stealing and lying so much you forget what a scumbag grifter he truly has always been.

You hate the guy. I get it.

Your thinking is dominated by personality traits observed.

My thinking is dominated by outcomes produced.

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about inflation, supply chain, border insecurity, product unavailability, Ukraine, Russia, Energy independence and predicted food shortages in the US?

 

[Arlette]

You hate the guy. I get it.

Your thinking is dominated by personality traits observed.

My thinking is dominated by outcomes produced.

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about inflation, supply chain, border insecurity, product unavailability, Ukraine, Russia, Energy independence and predicted food shortages in the US?

Sure. Lots of people felt the same way about Hitler. He made the trains run on time.

 

[bongsaway]

You hate the guy. I get it.

Your thinking is dominated by personality traits observed.

My thinking is dominated by outcomes produced.

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about inflation, supply chain, border insecurity, product unavailability, Ukraine, Russia, Energy independence and predicted food shortages in the US?

Outcomes produced? Dividing the nation like no president with his vitriol and venom. Nothing the guy wrote was untrue but as usual any criticism of trump is immediately met with stupid comments like, I get it, you hate the guy.

What about all the stuff you mention? You seem to be suggesting it's all the dems fault. Out of curiosity, how long have we had a border and why have the republicans never fixed the 'crisis' when they've had complete control of the government over the years?

 

[The AntiDonald]

There is no power than can overcome 45 million Trump cult members saying this:

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Or having people that don't reason:

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What is even more incredible is that these people can totally ignore these facts:

Damning analysis of Trump's pandemic response suggested 40% of US COVID-19 deaths could have been avoided​

Which means that about 460,000 people died unnecessarily so.

And then Trump tweets "Democrats are the enemy of the people", which in turn causes all Democrats to oppose his words.
@realDonaldTrump
The Democrats are the enemy of the people!

As such, Trump's loss was none of what you say caused it. Trump himself caused his own loss.

Great post. I am still laughing.

 

[US&THEM]

You hate the guy. I get it.

Your thinking is dominated by personality traits observed.

My thinking is dominated by outcomes produced.

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about inflation, supply chain, border insecurity, product unavailability, Ukraine, Russia, Energy independence and predicted food shortages in the US?

For the record i hate people like Trump too, dude is the most selfish and dishonest President in our history.
Trying to undo the blatant bs of the last 4 years has taken a toll. Trump abandoned the world stage with America First and this happens.

 

[Luckyone]

After you meandered around for a while soaking in your hate and bias, you FINALLY made a reference to the real world.

It was a Lie, but you made a reference.

Deaths, cases, hospitalizations and all the rest of the measurables got worse AFTER Trump left office.

Even vaccinations. On the day the Biden was inaugurated, 1.5 million Americans were vaccinated. Biden promised to reduce that number to 1 million per day.

Biden achieved that reduction and more! What a guy!

Your inability to see the real world is what your post here demonstrates. Nothing less... perhaps much more.

I never expect you to see what is real and this post of yours is a perfect example.

Every article that I have put out about Trump's incompetence shows that it was his handling of the virus (not the virus itself) that killed people unnecessarily. You state that under Biden, more people have died than under Trump and that is certainly a correct statistic. Nonetheless, many of those people died because Trump did not institute a mandatory mask mandate and did not push for vaccine prevention plans, as such, when Biden took office there were already lots and lots of people not wearing masks and not being vaccinated and that was not Biden's fault but Trump's fault. In addition, the Delta variant got to the U.S. in March and Delta was the biggest infector and killer of all the variants and that certainly was not anyone's fault (not Trump and not Biden) as the variants are not controllable. As such, Biden was faced with a bigger killer pandemic than Trump was.

Then again, about 430,000 people died from the pandemic while Trump was president over a period of 10 months. Then again, the deaths did not begin to rise until April 2020, so it can be said that in just 8 months, 400,000 people died under Trump. That is an average of 50,000 people per month. Biden took office in January 2021 and in the following 11 months (December 1021), an additional 416,000 deaths occurred. That is an average of 38,000 per month, which is less than the average per month of Trump. Since December 18th to today (4 months), an additional 154,000 people have died, which means that the same average per month has continued.

As such and using average deaths per month, more people died under Trump's watch than under Biden. The thing is that if Trump had done what he needed to do, many less people would have gotten infected and less people infected means the growth curve is less. The angle-to-the-upside was much greater under Trump than under Biden.

By the way, this entire statement above is made using simple mathematics and data. No opinion (such as you are giving) is involved.

As such, I have to say that the inability to see what is "real" is what you are doing, not me.

 

[lurchadams]

Trump asks Putin to release information on Hunter Biden while invasion is occurring.

"two days ago":



In this interview on Tuesday, Trump had no comment on Putin's killing of innocent women and children but he did ask for Putin's help to bring down Hunter Biden (and therefore Joe Biden) so that he can have something on Biden for the 2024 election.

There was no mention of the innocent people dying in Ukraine. There was no mention of the unfair invasion Putin is perpetrating. There was no mention of the fact that Putin has expressed his hate for the U.S. The only thing he mentioned is "Putin I need your help".

My gawd people. Is this the man you want running our country?

DUH. This is why I think the wing-nuts who support him are such fools. trump doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. He's willing to sacrifice the security of America if he thinks it'll line his pockets.

trump and his followers are nothing but traitors to this nation, plain and simple.

 

[code1211]

Nothing in that list has much to do with Biden except for perhaps the border. That has many arguments that can be made for Biden. All the rest are global issues. That you try and make all this Bidens fault is what's sad for you.

And yet these things were all good BEFORE Biden's stewardship began and suck afterward.

An expanded listing, still not complete, but expanded listing, of Biden failures is below:

Inflation
Border crisis
Supply chain
Product shortages
Ukraine
Afghanistan
COVID relief funding abuses
Biden crime family activities
Energy
Pathetically weak and controlled by others
Pathetically weak and ignored by others
Appointing Harris

This list just has to impress almost anyone.

 

[code1211]

There was no crime when Trump was president? No supply chain issues? Product shortages? .... LMAO... This is PRECISELY the fantasy world Trump supporters live in...

They were not crippling issues. The Democrats wrapped them around America's collective throat and started to choke us with them.

In 2019, "Supply Chain Issues" was a phrase that most Americans never heard of.

Today, Biden is predicting Food Shortages for the USA.

 

[code1211]

The US is far from crippled today. A booming economy with very low unemployment numbers and wages rising. Inflation is a backlash from all the shutdowns coupled with price gouging.

The 2022 Elections will be interesting.

We can test your perception of reality at that time.